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DottoreBL
26th November, 2014, 02:32 PM
i have AVDI org ... and from start their Abritus Programmer does not work very good with mercedes NEC keys :guns:
It REALLY Pisses Me off

What programmator u use for NEC ?

Tnx

Is this any good http://www.eobd2.net/wholesale/new-benz-ir-nec-key-programmer.html

autodigitec
26th November, 2014, 02:58 PM
It should work with no problems, I know theres one chinese NEC programmer that can already check the radio bytes. You should download the manual to see if thats the one or if its the white box one.

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DottoreBL
26th November, 2014, 03:01 PM
So youre advice to buy this from china ?

autodigitec
26th November, 2014, 04:14 PM
Yes buy that one without problems, it's only 35 usd so it paid after first service.

DottoreBL
26th November, 2014, 08:36 PM
Yes it is very chep, do u know some more better ? Anny one else have some sugestion for me please ?
what tool u use for MB NEC KEYS

Siham
26th November, 2014, 09:35 PM
Yes it is very chep, do u know some more better ? Anny one else have some sugestion for me please ?
what tool u use for MB NEC KEYS

If that buy genuine tools like noimmo or mercedesinstrument or diagspeed !

DottoreBL
27th November, 2014, 08:14 AM
I have Mercedes Avdi, i need only good programmator for NEC

viw9419
27th November, 2014, 10:24 AM
. . . . . .

solitaire
27th November, 2014, 02:47 PM
I use MBir, very good programer, never was problem with radio or etc.
MBtool basic (http://cartools.su/mbtool/page20.html)

p1et
11th December, 2014, 10:24 PM
I ordered the one from the link above, I will let you know how I get on with it.

Did you get it already? I'm interested in your opinion cause I'd like to buy it :)

DottoreBL
12th December, 2014, 08:38 AM
i order it... waiting to recive ... and still had problem with AVDI programer ...

Siham
12th December, 2014, 02:23 PM
Ask Abrite to replace the nec prog .
It's still in warranty ,no?

DottoreBL
15th December, 2014, 09:15 AM
no, i bought it before 3-4 years ... :/

Mario3
19th January, 2015, 06:51 PM
this nec programmer should work fine, its the same as included in AK500+, same sw.

regards

DottoreBL
20th January, 2015, 09:59 AM
i m still waiting shippment from china ...

didi_du_93000
21st January, 2015, 07:58 AM
I have one from China like tour order.
I can just write file.
You can't read a file with it.

viw9419
21st January, 2015, 11:52 PM
. . . . . .

didi_du_93000
23rd January, 2015, 12:46 AM
With this tool you can just write dump. Not possible to read it.
For me work well.

lpf01
1st February, 2015, 06:57 PM
It is good to write over old used keys?

Or first i need to erase NEC and after that i can program it with this?

didi_du_93000
1st February, 2015, 09:01 PM
I used a second hand key.
Automatically renew it before write.
But 1 time have problem of remote (don't work). Some dk user says it's the problem of chines nec programer.

DottoreBL
2nd February, 2015, 09:54 AM
i have same problem with AVDI programmer

Siham
2nd February, 2015, 12:14 PM
Chinese Nec programmer sometime do not program very well remote , in that some MB programmer like mercedesinstruments allow you to fix this problem.

Niaz
5th February, 2015, 08:56 PM
i have AVDI org ... and from start their Abritus Programmer does not work very good with mercedes NEC keys :guns:
It REALLY Pisses Me off

What programmator u use for NEC ?

Tnx

Is this any good http://www.eobd2.net/wholesale/new-benz-ir-nec-key-programmer.html
AVDI "original' AB prog is shit for NEC chip everyone knows who have ! except "distributors members"
What about THIS ONE (http://cartools.su/mbtool/page23.html) what is price ..where to contact ? & what about THIS ONE (http://www.obd365.com/wholesale/mb-ir-plus-key-programmer-for-m-ercedes-b-enz-1269.html) please share experience.

eugen8
5th February, 2015, 09:13 PM
MB IR PLUS is good only for testing key never programmed well key

didi_du_93000
6th February, 2015, 12:42 AM
AVDI "original' AB prog is shit for NEC chip everyone knows who have ! except "distributors members"
What about THIS ONE (http://cartools.su/mbtool/page23.html) what is price ..where to contact ? & what about THIS ONE (http://www.obd365.com/wholesale/mb-ir-plus-key-programmer-for-m-ercedes-b-enz-1269.html) please share experience.
Good tool,
But you need also read ssid hash... From eis, so must use the MBkey
http://cartools.su/mbtool/page20.html

And also need SKC to generate key dump

qubits
6th February, 2015, 02:04 PM
prices right here
http://cartools.su/robindab/page14.html
if you read the forum, russians are complaining about the prices and compare it to chinese ak. go figure.

chriskross
7th February, 2015, 05:53 PM
is anyone using simontouch tools any experience?

Niaz
7th February, 2015, 09:03 PM
Only bought AVDI & nothing want to deal with them again ..

p1et
13th February, 2015, 04:22 PM
How long does it takes to program a key by this device? I'm trying to program but something must be wrong. I waited like 15 minutes and it still goes. Hardware detected OK, test MCU OK, but cannot program.


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=299426&stc=1

igorr
13th February, 2015, 05:03 PM
about 45s, tray to resolder nec

p1et
14th February, 2015, 01:41 PM
Hmm, I resoldered very carefully and still the same. Tried with second adapter and also on different COM port settings and still the same :/. Maybe device is faulty?

ttzag
14th February, 2015, 07:00 PM
How long does it takes to program a key by this device? I'm trying to program but something must be wrong. I waited like 15 minutes and it still goes. Hardware detected OK, test MCU OK, but cannot program.


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=299426&stc=1
Replace nec with other

autodigitec
14th February, 2015, 11:23 PM
It's taking a lot of time because it is "erasing" the mcu first, and since it is a random procdeure it might take a few seconds or minutes. Better clean the mcu pins and start again.

yugo45
15th February, 2015, 04:32 AM
How long does it takes to program a key by this device? I'm trying to program but something must be wrong. I waited like 15 minutes and it still goes. Hardware detected OK, test MCU OK, but cannot program.


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=299426&stc=1

I have same exactly problem .
I try 3 different NEC chips and it is doing same thing. I left it for 30 min and still was programing.
I am 100% sure all legs are solder and not joined , also I have ZF socket and it is doing same thing.I spend all day to figure out this and no luck.

One thing is I am able to run it on XP SP3 direct , do not need VM . I see most of the people runs it in XP Sp2 in VM.

Maybe this is a problem?

Anyone know what could be a problem?


p1et ,
What system you are running and is it in VM?

p1et
15th February, 2015, 07:40 AM
I'm running it also on XP SP3 directly. I installed on XP SP2 Virtual Machine but got API Hook error. I also tried 2 NEC chips and still the same, soldering 100% OK.

So we have identical problem and we use XP SP3. Don't know why I have API Hook error on Virtual Machine, while it works for others here.

ttzag
15th February, 2015, 07:44 AM
I tried it yesterday in vm for first time , it's take more than 10 minutes and nothing , then i moved device with same nec to my xp sp2 wich already i use it , done in one minute

yugo45
15th February, 2015, 04:52 PM
I'm running it also on XP SP3 directly. I installed on XP SP2 Virtual Machine but got API Hook error. I also tried 2 NEC chips and still the same, soldering 100% OK.

So we have identical problem and we use XP SP3. Don't know why I have API Hook error on Virtual Machine, while it works for others here.


I tried it yesterday in vm for first time , it's take more than 10 minutes and nothing , then i moved device with same nec to my xp sp2 wich already i use it , done in one minute

TTZAG did you run SP2 in VM or it was SP3?

I think this is a problem, it has to be SP2 or SP2 in VM.
P1et, I do not know why you has problem on SP2 VM. Everyone seams to fix it this way.
Try this software is Sp2 VM:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/323706-Mercedes-Nec-key-Prorammer-Repair-Guide?highlight=mercedes+hook

I am trying to get SP2 ISO file and try this way, I think this will be way to go.

Anyone has good download XP sp2 ISO file?

simaservis1108
15th February, 2015, 05:12 PM
Had a same problem with 061 NEC.
But it programmed 081 in 20 seconds or less.

ttzag
15th February, 2015, 07:02 PM
[QUOTE=yugo45;2474761]TTZAG did you run SP2 in VM or it was SP3?

professional service pack 3

p1et
15th February, 2015, 07:21 PM
Had a same problem with 061 NEC.
But it programmed 081 in 20 seconds or less.

I will try 081 then. I already tried tried 061 and 071 and cannot program. Tried already on WIN XP SP3, WIN XP SP2, WIN XP Home SP2 and all the same on all of them. Will try on VM once again.

ttzag
15th February, 2015, 07:36 PM
try this soft

yugo45
16th February, 2015, 05:25 AM
try this soft

I tried and it is same thing.
in few days I will install XP SP 2 in one of my old laptop and will report .
In CD that cam out with programer , there is 2 folders with two .exe files.
One of them will work on XP Sp3 , but other one gives me API Hook error. So I hope if that other software works in Sp2 it will work OK with programer.

Once I find out I will let you know guys.

ttzag
17th February, 2015, 11:00 PM
today i installed a fresh xp sp2 on my dell core i5 , program working from first time without VMWARE and without java or net.framework

elchip
17th February, 2015, 11:35 PM
NEC IR key programmer not work on VM !

elephantul
18th February, 2015, 08:24 AM
but work in vm

ttzag
18th February, 2015, 08:39 AM
but work in vm
did u tried to read write nec mcu over vmware or just open software ?

elephantul
18th February, 2015, 08:52 PM
i write nec in vm ,many times,

yugo45
23rd February, 2015, 11:20 PM
I install XP2 and still have problem . It writes for ever.I am really tied of this programer.

Anyone know any other programer that will program those keys?
I do not mind pay more money , I just need something what will work 100%.

Mario3
23rd February, 2015, 11:26 PM
i have ak500 and it uses the same sw as this nec prog that makes trouble.. it seems that there is no cheap solution for writing nec key

noimmo is about 600e i think :/

erdilmen
24th February, 2015, 01:29 AM
i have AVDI org ... and from start their Abritus Programmer does not work very good with mercedes NEC keys :guns:
It REALLY Pisses Me off

What programmator u use for NEC ?

Tnx

Is this any good http://www.eobd2.net/wholesale/new-benz-ir-nec-key-programmer.html
for 1 year im using without any problem.only first time i have a file problem about device software and i solved it.
for long time all we are buying clone tools.
i only saw 2 tools is really working so good.
1- this nec key programmer
2- piassini

DottoreBL
25th February, 2015, 12:21 PM
after 2 month it is arived today ... i have small problem with com port, but i solved and try it ... There is no seperate button to press for delete NEC, when u pres program, he delete and write NEC ... i try it on table, and work OK

but still do not know will remote work ...

DottoreBL
25th February, 2015, 12:23 PM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=301390&stc=1

p1et
25th February, 2015, 02:23 PM
What OS u working on?

bearheroes
25th February, 2015, 11:57 PM
I use this sw http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/451090-BENZ-NEC-Programmer?p=2474832&viewfull=1#post2474832
and it works good...xp sp3, xp sp2...

DottoreBL
26th February, 2015, 10:46 AM
What OS u working on?

it is on XP sp3

p1et
9th March, 2015, 02:01 PM
I gave up with this china programmer because it didn't work on my 4 computers and I bought this: http://www.autodiag.pl/index.php?p301,programator-ukladow-nec-z-kluczy-mb-ir

It works like a charm and it looks like the china programmer is clone of this because the software looks the same.

doctore
5th February, 2018, 02:10 PM
How long does it takes to program a key by this device? I'm trying to program but something must be wrong. I waited like 15 minutes and it still goes. Hardware detected OK, test MCU OK, but cannot program.


http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=299426&stc=1

hi p1et do you have this softwer to send my :)

or to hit a laptop in the ground because it will not work
that api hook error kiling my:banghead:

thanks in advance

p1et
5th February, 2018, 03:56 PM
You mean software from autodiag or china? Autodiag is protected by password and on every other computer, you need separate activation code from supplier.