Good tool for keys

[honingkoning]

Guys i am looking for a tool to produce transponders,
i am looking for a tool which works good on old fiat and renault cars.

i was looking for smok key tool, but information very poor on website.

tools might be clone or ori (i preffer ori)

Wbr Adam

[autofan1965]

What models exactly.

[gwee]

if original, go for tango and tmpro2 :)

[MACKIE]

Sure...as brother Gwee says if you want serious tool go for Tango or TmPro...

Regards
Mackie

[gwee]

tmpro2 made the impossible possible :)

i only have few modules for tmpro2, but each cost between 500 to 800 euro, no any other tools can do

[Siham]

What about tagkey tool original is it good or have bugs?

[gwee]

.........................bugs

[Siham]

in each modules please ? toyota ,renault etc...?
BEcause i'am trying to get one AVDI with tag key tool , its promotion time !

[gwee]

toyota etc.............

[Siham]

Owner of Tango or people who know it , it is true that tango can work by OBD ?

[gwee]

...................not true

[McLovin]

Actually Gwee Tango can work with Toyota by obd

[gwee]

Actually Gwee Tango can work with Toyota by obd

actually how ?

tango comes with obd cable? which toyota by obd?

[ttzag]

@gwee did u tried it for Toyota ?


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[gwee]

@gwee did u tried it for Toyota ?


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yes, but never knew it can do via obd

[ttzag]

I tried it on corolla 2009 , it can read key and erase but can't reset immo

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[autofan1965]

in each modules please ? toyota ,renault etc...?
BEcause i'am trying to get one AVDI with tag key tool , its promotion time !

Tagkey is ripped tango with many bugs and no one care of it. It seems that tm100 is better ripped.

[Siham]

Tango also have bugs!?!?:banghead:
Bugs in each modules ?
I think that TMpro only do not have bugs , just have it with range rover module and work good , but only problem is the module are TOO MUCH expensive .:mad-new:

[autofan1965]

No, tango have very good working rate 98%, tmpro 99,9%. Tagkey 75% or lower.

[Atex31]

"Owner of Tango or people who know it , it is true that tango can work by OBD ?"


It works using any "Dumb" USB OBD lead as long as you have paid for the Toyota key maker.


I have the OBD option but always used other tools.

[ttzag]

Tango have a software called..Toyota pluse ,,with this software you can use any kkl interface and u can read immo keys , delete fault code in immo , reset immo , and add keys , but not for smart keys .

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[ttzag]

I emailed scorpio for reset immo with Toyota tango plus,
They send me a new software but i didn't test it yet

[DottoreBL]

I have AD900 and no bugs

[honingkoning]

Guys i am looking especially for punto mk 2 transponder making from bcm.
I already tried with zedd Bull clone, ik gives me transponder production good,but ik cant program transponder in car after that
i cant see any difference in transponder data after witte with zedd Bull.
Any advice is welcome

[DottoreBL]

did u try to make new image dump and write it to start car immediately

[honingkoning]

did u try to make new image dump and write it to start car immediately
No ik did not how do i do that?

Wbr Adam.

[obdsystems]

I have AD900 and no bugs



tools always have bugs lol. even OEM manufacturers n they design the stuff

[Cesarec]

Guys i am looking especially for punto mk 2 transponder making from bcm.
I already tried with zedd Bull clone, ik gives me transponder production good,but ik cant program transponder in car after that
i cant see any difference in transponder data after witte with zedd Bull.
Any advice is welcome

After production transponder with Zed Bull clone you can use SBB programmer and add new key via OBD. You can use SBB or the new one CK-100 programmer.

[honingkoning]

After production transponder with Zed Bull clone you can use SBB programmer and add new key via OBD. You can use SBB or the new one CK-100 programmer.
I know that but it does not work, i tried with originele dealer tool.

Does zedd Bull change data om transponder?

Because i read transponder data before programming with ZB andere after programming with ZB but data om transponder reads the same.

Wbr Adam.

[paul_12345]

I know that but it does not work, i tried with originele dealer tool.

Does zedd Bull change data om transponder?

Because i read transponder data before programming with ZB andere after programming with ZB but data om transponder reads the same.

Wbr Adam.

you can not read id48 so how do you know its the same

[honingkoning]

you can not read id48 so how do you know its the same
What door i read when ik place transponder in ZB?

I am Just New in Keys and need to learn aan lot so any help ik welcome.

Btw ik have ordered smok key maker,this claims to work with some fiat models.

Wbr Adam.

[paul_12345]

What door i read when ik place transponder in ZB?

I am Just New in Keys and need to learn aan lot so any help ik welcome.

Btw ik have ordered smok key maker,this claims to work with some fiat models.

Wbr Adam.

you can not read the important part of id48 even if it is unlocked there is no reading circuit for the key, only write.

this should be verry easy, load file into zedbull/effi produce transponder, then either use sbb etc to program key or

select create file option and follow the simple instructions to produce a new file which you need to write back to the bsi eprom, then car should start.

if the car does not start try programming the key with sbb etc anyway, if it still does not start theres probably a fault with the car.. if this is a 'lost key' situation I wouldn't rule out a damaged ecu

[honingkoning]

you can not read the important part of id48 even if it is unlocked there is no reading circuit for the key, only write.

this should be verry easy, load file into zedbull/effi produce transponder, then either use sbb etc to program key or

select create file option and follow the simple instructions to produce a new file which you need to write back to the bsi eprom, then car should start.

if the car does not start try programming the key with sbb etc anyway, if it still does not start theres probably a fault with the car.. if this is a 'lost key' situation I wouldn't rule out a damaged ecu
I Will try that when my smok keyprog comes in

I also need to program a key tot a vw T5 year 2008.
I have vagdashcom en can so it should not be a problem to add a key.

But Will zedbull prepare key for me?

Wbr Adam.

[autofan1965]

T5 you make only with vagdashcom. You dont need any additional equipment, there is system like in golf 4 till 2010.

[honingkoning]

T5 you make only with vagdashcom. You dont need any additional equipment, there is system like in golf 4 till 2010.
Thank you, i Will give that a try.
For what vw cars do i need to prepare keys?
Is that for from golf 5 and up?

Wbr Adam.

[autofan1965]

It is hard question. Most cars after 06/06 are with transponder precoded with cs and correct can preparation. Before this date you need transponder prepared for can car. This rule is true at least for cars with micronas can dash.

[honingkoning]

you can not read the important part of id48 even if it is unlocked there is no reading circuit for the key, only write.

this should be verry easy, load file into zedbull/effi produce transponder, then either use sbb etc to program key or

select create file option and follow the simple instructions to produce a new file which you need to write back to the bsi eprom, then car should start.

if the car does not start try programming the key with sbb etc anyway, if it still does not start theres probably a fault with the car.. if this is a 'lost key' situation I wouldn't rule out a damaged ecu
Well ik did like you said with the punto and car was not running ( i created New file.with smok keyprog, but smok created a good transponder which needed to be programmed (i used fiat examiner)

Also programmed transponder to T5 and golf 4 today with mdc.
Also good,

Wbr Adam.