Condor driving me mad!

[54321]

Can anybody that has a condor or that knows about them please give me a bit of advice before i smash the bloody thing up!

Since i've had the machine its not cut a single key that has worked, i've set up both jaws, tracers, cutters many times. I've tried 1.5 and 2.5 tracer. I've tried all sizes of cutter, nothing works.

At the moment i'm trying to cut a hu66 key, nothing fancy, anything should be able to do it.

I've got the correct cuts and just to be sure i've used the condor to copy the cuts from the original key, that matches my cuts that i had. The key that the Condor has cut only goes in around half way. I've tried around 10x different hu66 keys and get the same result.

I'm putting the blank key up to its shoulder in the x2 clamp

Does anybody have any tips?

[rapidlocksmiths]

somethings not right with it for sure as mine cuts vag spot on , are you on latest update ?

ive found with some keys like HU100 it can cut the ramp at tip a little short , a file fixes this normally , though they are supposed to have fixed this in latest update .

i tend to use the 2.5mm cuter on vag keys .

if only going in half way it will be either the ramp at the keys tip not fully cutting or the depth of cut being too shallow , though ramp is favourite , try taking a file to ramp and enduring its fully cut and angled .

not read this issue on vag keys anywhere , id contact condor or supplier if calibrating cutters and jaws doesnt work to resolve this as vag is a key i have no issues with on this machine .

then just usual advice , recalibrate all cutters and clamps , remove and clean clamps and machine of swarf , try on vag with 2.5mm cutter , update software to latest software if not already running this .

which key are you trying ? ive read of odd issues with some hu75 keys , but none on hu66 keys thus far , ive certainly had no issues with mine.

are you running it on mains supply or inverter supply on van ?

[54321]

Thanks Martin, can you remember what depth yours is set to cut?

[rapidlocksmiths]

not off top of head , il have a look at it when home as its in workshop .

check the ramp at tip of key and ensure it has cut full ramp in and not left it square at base of tip , if the case a hand file on this will cure this , i find the bigger cutter cuts these better , id suspect the ramp over depth being the issue as they had this issue on a few keys , but 1st time ive read of an hu66 not cutting .

have you tried recutting the same cut key again to see if its cutting properly first time as shouldnt remove any more swarf if cut right first time , if it cuts more off the key its not cutting right first time .

[Rtronics]

mate, mine is working fine. i suggest you update it to the latest version (use the highest beta version from memory)and it sounds like you have not calibrated your machine. i had issues with mine til i calibrated it. i received this from condor support. just calibrate your machine and you dont have to file anything. he he

[aassfour]

i dont have issue with mine, its a beast in cutting only few got keys wrong due to the original key that were bad

[54321]

Finally got my first key to work! I changed cutter to 2.5 and cut each side twice.

Is it normal to have to cut each side twice?

P.s: The machine is calirated correctly, i've calibrated it many many times.

[rapidlocksmiths]

have you got it on fast , medium or slow speed setting

[rapidlocksmiths]

i use medium speed setting and have no problems in one cut , if using the fastest setting it can fail to cut correctly , also using some of the chinese blanks made from hard alloys can require cutting on slowest setting to get cut 1st time .

[54321]

hMine is on medium setting

[rapidlocksmiths]

Try it on slow if using hard alloy keys , if not it should cut fine on medium , certainly odd and sounds like a calibration issue if not down to keys and speed . vag keys do cut far better on 2.5 cutter .

[viw9419]

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[dustin2014]

Can anyone point out where I'm going wrong?
I can't replace cutter.
I'm not able to insert a new cutter.
I tried pressing and holding the spindle lock button and turning installation knob counterclockwise as per instructions, It seems to be clicking as normal but the hole for inserting the cutter is not widening and it is still too narrow to insert cutter.The installation knob is just unscrewing in my hand when I turn it counterclockwise.
Am I missing something obvious?

[aassfour]

Can anyone point out where I'm going wrong?
I can't replace cutter.
I'm not able to insert a new cutter.
I tried pressing and holding the spindle lock button and turning installation knob counterclockwise as per instructions, It seems to be clicking as normal but the hole for inserting the cutter is not widening and it is still too narrow to insert cutter.The installation knob is just unscrewing in my hand when I turn it counterclockwise.
Am I missing something obvious?

dont press it , just give it a hard tap, dont be afraid just tap it hard and it will release

[dustin2014]

dont press it , just give it a hard tap, dont be afraid just tap it hard and it will release
Thanks mate. I'll try that in the morning. Does that go for inserting the cutter as well, because I have already released the cutter?

[paul_12345]

Thanks mate. I'll try that in the morning. Does that go for inserting the cutter as well, because I have already released the cutter?

to release give it a bit of a bang

to replace the cutter - place the cutter in it then you might have to pull up the red handle you had to bang then press in the grey push button and rotate the red handle to tigthen the cutter in place.

sometimes if you dont pull the red handle up it will not catch when you try to tighten it up

[dustin2014]

Thanks for replying Paul, but my problem is that the cutter wont fit into the opening. The red handle is back up and I tied pressing the grey button and rotating red handle anti clockwise to widen the gap for the cutter, but it wont go in.

[paul_12345]

Thanks for replying Paul, but my problem is that the cutter wont fit into the opening. The red handle is back up and I tied pressing the grey button and rotating red handle anti clockwise to widen the gap for the cutter, but it wont go in.

press the grey button, unscrew the red handle so its loose then give it a good bang down

[dustin2014]

Cheers mate. I'll try that in the morning.

[dustin2014]

Thanks a million Paul. You're a star. That tip worked a treat.

[dustin2014]

All sorted. Grateful for your assistance aassfour also:stung:.

[54321]

Any news on being able to cut the va2 blades yet?

[54321]

Another problem with the Condor today! I tried to cut a toyota aygo key and i get a scrambled image on the display when i try and cut the second side. Has anybody seen or had this issue?

Oh and yes it does try to cut a key to that image :stupid:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=303201&stc=1

[paul_12345]

Another problem with the Condor today! I tried to cut a toyota aygo key and i get a scrambled image on the display when i try and cut the second side. Has anybody seen or had this issue?

Oh and yes it does try to cut a key to that image :stupid:



I've just enter the same code it displays ok then press start cut then cancel and it shows the same scrambled picture

[54321]

I've just enter the same code it displays ok then press start cut then cancel and it shows the same scrambled picture
Have you managed to do any va2 keys with the Condor Paul?

[dustin2014]

Anyone know how to do a factory reset?
I'm having a problem where I calibrate the clamp and cutters and get a calibration OK message,everything as normal,
but when I go to do a cut it sometimes says check probe or fixture.
I then check everything again, re calibrate everything , get calibration OK message,
Then the cutter either lines up totally wrong, snaps a probe or cutter,
or cuts along the side of the key position into the actual metal alongside the blade.
I've cleaned all swarf, updated firmware and run out of probes again.

[54321]

Might be a silly question but when you are calibrating are you sure you have the correct clamp X1 or X2 in and if it is the correct clamp are you sure its set at the correct position, A, B, C

[dustin2014]

Yes. I've checked and rechecked.
Never had this problem before. It says calibration OK, but doesn't work.

[hellllboy]

thanks Rtronics