Immo problm Vectra C Y20DTH

[ruffles1986]

Hi i am having problems with Opel Vectra C Y20DTH from '03. The car cames from other garages and anybody can start it.
The car have a frontal crash and EHU was destroyer.
When i started to work in this car i see not have comunication with ECM (PSG16 ECU pump). Then i changed EHU and PSG16, then now i have comunication with ECM. I wrote VIN on EHU and i coded PSG16. (reset PSG16 with code of donor car and adapt it to CIM)
I had some problems to adapt it, and finally i reset CIM and ECM and adapt it.

Now ECM and CIM are sync, but on ECM i received DTC:
Wrong Environment Identifier from CIM - P1616
Wrong Transponder - (i not remember code).

Well i try to learn old transponder without success (The transponder is a 7935) i confused with that because i think this CIM with MCU 1J35D had a ID:46 not ID:40.
I try to learn a 7936 but i had other DTC: Wrong Transponder TYPE.

Well i decided continue with immo adapt process and I reset IPC, REC, BCM, DDM, PDM.

now i cant coded BCM correctly and some modules had problems...

IPC: Wrong Environment from CIM
No Comunication with CIM -U2139
BCM: Code not learned.
REC: OK
DDM: Code not learned
Wrong Environment From CIM
PDM: System Voltage Malfunction.

I try to learn a news ID40 virgin but give me error program failed. With 7936 i have wrong transpondeer type DTC.
I assume that coil read transponder because detect if transponder type is ok or not.

some help is wellcome

[lupu_sandu]

Change your diagnostic equipment.

[ruffles1986]

I am using vaux-com HQ clone with lastest version.

[ruffles1986]

i am reading about p1616 and some people report a defective connection on harness near of ABS.
This car is near to be a shit, PSG16 fails, Harness connector fails, Cim fails, BCM fails...

[bajad]

if you received key with donor ECU and it is PCF7935 inside then this ECU was on Astra or Zafira, so you need reprogram PSG16 to VECTRA C with TECH2 , after that you need new key with chip PCF7946 inside , old key will not work for VECTRA C in this situation.
Then learn new key to CIM and car should start.

[Bllinda]

Maybe you must first Tech2 with s p s.
So that we can normally connect all the blocks (a d d/r e m o v e) fewer cases of doubt would.

[Bllinda]

I'm thinking that you roam.
If the CIM is the home and holds the key operating and programming t e c h 2 with no error, the key must act.


if you received key with donor ECU and it is PCF7935 inside then this ECU was on Astra or Zafira, so you need reprogram PSG16 to VECTRA C with TECH2 , after that you need new key with chip PCF7946 inside , old key will not work for VECTRA C in this situation.
Then learn new key to CIM and car should start.

[unu]

you will succeed only if you will use TECH2 with SPS and correct PIN code.
Transponder PHILIPS Crypto2 ID46 ● JMA : TP12GM, TPX4 ● PCF7941AT ● PCF7936

[Bllinda]

Or ....

you will succeed only if you will use TECH2 with SPS and correct PIN code.
Transponder PHILIPS Crypto2 ID46 ● JMA : TP12GM, TPX4 ● PCF7941AT ● PCF7936
If you choose to use ....

[bajad]

I'm thinking that you roam.
If the CIM is the home and holds the key operating and programming t e c h 2 with no error, the key must act.

i don't think so :) after that >>> /...and finally i reset CIM and ECM and adapt it../ no one old key will work :) - old immo info is lost and you need new key ;)

[Faraday]

try this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbnmib5tthpnbdy/New%20CIM%20Programming.pdf?dl=0

[ruffles1986]

try this

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbnmib5tthpnbdy/New%20CIM%20Programming.pdf?dl=0

Thanks for sare it Faraday, but i already have it.

I think someone put a remote and transponder from Astra G or Vectra B in original blade. This Cim with 1J35D must be using a ID46.
Today i program a all key lost from Zafira B and have same DTC when i turn on ignition P1616 Wrong Environment from CIM. Then I think this Dtc appear in these cars if turn ignition without programed transponder.

I go to try to program a new Vectra C remote and after that try if can program all modules.

[ruffles1986]

you will succeed only if you will use TECH2 with SPS and correct PIN code.
Transponder PHILIPS Crypto2 ID46 ● JMA : TP12GM, TPX4 ● PCF7941AT ● PCF7936

I have a qustion for you, its posible in all key lost program a TPX4 directly by obd? or need prepare with some tool? For cloning, TPX4 i know work.

[lupu_sandu]

All key lost, AFAIK you need a remote key.

[ruffles1986]

Finally problem was in key. Program new remote with 7941 and after that i can adapt all modules

[Bllinda]

Type in the PM your cell phone, talk :)


i don't think so :) after that >>> /...and finally i reset CIM and ECM and adapt it../ no one old key will work :) - old immo info is lost and you need new key ;)parasyk i PM savo mobilu telefona, pasikalbesime