Engine Temp for Vectra SRi 1.8 petrol, dec 2005 plate ?

[Saltire]

I was speaking earlier to a couple of guys in the shoutbox about this but couldnt get the photos at the time, so I have them now, hope they might help.

Let me explain.

As the title mentions, I have a " Vectra SRi 1.8 petrol, dec 2005 plate", (ENGINE NUMBER : Z18XE20GA8351 2H9), I've had it since new and full Vauxhall service history etc, its done about 75,000 miles and just last week I got them to supply and fit a full new cam/timing belt kit, a water pump kit and do a basic service too, so thats that.

Anyways, I very seldome even go in the car these days, the mrs uses it though.

I had told her to just keep an eye on the engine tempreature gauge as I thought good idea incase possible problems with the water pump fitting which can sometimes happen I might imagine, but whether or not she did keep a close eye on the temp I really dont know, but anyway, she called up today in a bit of a panick saying she was worried as she noticed the engine temp was staying about 90c degrees, so I said I wasnt sure and so on and thats what brings me to ask on here.

Would the idling and driving tempreature of a hot engine in that car be about correct round about high 80's to 90-92c-ish ??? Suppose thats the main question, lol, sorry, I always go the long way to explain things but its best to explain rather than not sometimes I hope, lol.

Ok, here is a photo of the engine tempreature when started from cold start, the photos are all when the car is just sitting idling over, not driving, she says that the temp doesnt really change much when driving anyway which I was suprised at, anyways (see photo, hope you can see it ok when you click on it) >>315966

[Saltire]

Here is a photo of the engine tempreature after 10 minutes warming up, keep in mind the photos are all when the car is just sitting idling over, not driving, she says that the temp doesnt really change much when driving anyway which I was suprised at, anyways (see photo, hope you can see it ok when you click on it) >> 315967

[Saltire]

Here is another photo of the engine tempreature after another 10 minutes warming up, keep in mind the photos are all when the car is just sitting idling over, not driving, she says that the temp doesnt really change much when driving anyway which I was suprised at, anyways (see photo, hope you can see it ok when you click on it) >> [ATTACH=CONFIG]315968[TACH/AT]

[Saltire]

And, Here is another photo of the engine tempreature after yet another 10 minutes warming up, keep in mind the photos are all when the car is just sitting idling over, not driving, she says that the temp doesnt really change much when driving anyway which I was suprised at, anyways (see photo, hope you can see it ok when you click on it) >> 315969

[Saltire]

And finally, another 10 minutes passes, (see photo, hope you can see it ok when you click on it) >> 315970

[Meat-Head]

Bit sad having it from new then 75,000 and 10 years later having to post on the worlds best website.

would say 90 is good, water boils at 100, when you get to work home etc, put some oven gloves on, feel hoses from radiatior check there hard.

if your brave crack coolant cap off check it hisses like a coke bottle. Proves pressureising .


doez the heAt from heater burn your hands? On max

[Saltire]

There is this one more photo, I let the engine cool down for about one hour and 15 minutes and then took this photo of the coolant level so that you'z can see that to be able to say if thats ok or not please ?? 315971

[Saltire]

Bit sad having it from new then 75,000 and 10 years later having to post on the worlds best website.

would say 90 is good, water boils at 100, when you get to work home etc, put some oven gloves on, feel hoses from radiatior check there hard.

if your brave crack coolant cap off check it hisses like a coke bottle. Proves pressureising .





doez the heAt from heater burn your hands? On max


yes, she says on the with the internal heater set at medium setting heat, lets say like big hand on a clock, cold setting would be at 9pm and hottest at 3pm, she says that at the 12pm (medium setting I would say) it is pretty hot, but not scalding hot if thats what you mean, why, does this make a difference, yes ??

[Saltire]

yes, she says on the with the internal heater set at medium setting heat, lets say like big hand on a clock, cold setting would be at 9pm and hottest at 3pm, she says that at the 12pm (medium setting I would say) it is pretty hot, but not scalding hot if thats what you mean, why, does this make a difference, yes ??

Ok, sorry, I went out myself to check a few things just now to make sure before I get stuck into the delearship later, I checked the heater inside the car as meaty said, I let the car heat up for like 10-15 minutes, put it on to full heat (maximum on the red setting), it was nice and warm, not burning or extra extra hot, but hot enough that I would say its fine, the mrs's was exzagarating just a wee bit, so thats the answer with the heater.

While I was out there I noticed a rattling noise coming from the engine though, defo wasnt there before the dealership done the work as stated at the first post above, its a strange noise but even my not so car mechinically minded brain would say its a noise to do with something spinning, some sort of moving part, I.E- the water pump and timing belt kits where changed, so I know they move, is that a possible cause ????

I also sat for a while with the engine warm after about 15 minutes and watching the Rev counter and noticed it kinda hovered up n down slightly by about I think 100-150 rpm. you can see the photos of the rev counter, well it was moving up n down slightly, I think thats 100rpm movement, is it not ?? (I know it wont show in the photos but it is defo moving slightly like I say)

I remember the last car I had I got a new timing belt done and straight away I noticed the revs fluctuating slightly just the same and it wasnt until I took it to another garage to get checked that they said the timing wasnt even set perfectly or something along those lines and thats what was causing that, they sorted it out and it ran smooth as anything after that, they defo said the timing, didnt say spark plugs or nuffin like that stuff, and again, the mrs said that it wasnt like this either before it went in last week to get the work done.

is there any chance that anyone could try and clarify all these things for me please as now I am sweating because I know they will argue the case, its a cert man :( , I am a member of the RAC and wonder if I should maybe get them out to see whats going on tomorrow, but that would use up one of my hits with them and would rather not do that if I can avoid it, plus they might say on the phone that if the car drives etc then no need for them anyway and tell us to go see the garage, know what I mean ??? :( Mannnnn, nothing but foorklin hassle are cars man, especially after being in garages that cost a fortune man :(

[Meat-Head]

With out seeing the thing sounds situation normal, perhaps there's a Scotland ish dk member could look at it for you

[clusters]

Modern cars have 90*C thermostats, and not uncommon for the engine to run as high as 100*C. From what I've seen of the pictures, yours is acting normal temp wise. A lot of the electric fans don't even cut in till over 100*C.

[alessioblaupunkt]

All is ok. The noise you heard was the radiator fan coming in because the radiator
reached 95 or more degrees.

The idle rpm varies +/- 100 rpm because of:
- lambda value (continuous variation between rich and lean)
- water temp
- air temp
- fuel injected
- ignition advance
- alternator request
- many others (egr, intake air pressure, throttle body, )

All controlled by ecu.

[simaservis1108]

Your temp should be rock solid on 90.
My father drives the car with the same engine as yours.

Regards,
Sima

[Saltire]

Thanks for explaining all those things guys, excellent, that explains a couple of the things but it appears (I think) the noise was a bit different and on my first instincts of hearing it last night without being able to see it, I thought hmmm, that sounds rather dodgy considering a new cam belt kit and water pump kit had been fitted and also a service too, seemed like something was loose or rattling or both, I couldn't see in the dark though, but I could certainly hear, it was enough for my old boy racer brain to kick in and I just knew that it wasn't nothing, it was something that needed looked at etc, so on that note I decided to go ahead and tell the mrs to get the RAC out this morning and the guy gave it a good going over she said and he also wrote a note out which I have attached for you'z all to see...

Maybe one of you will be able to make more of what exactly was causing that bad noise from the note you can see in the photo ??? If you click on it you should be able to see it clear I think. ?

So the RAC guy told her to take it straight back to the Vauxhall dealer which she done, she let the service manager have a copy of the RAC note and he took the car round into the garage and 1.5hours later the mechanic appeared with it for a test drive etc and seemingly its all sorted, I haven't heard it as she is out just now, but she said even with the bonnet up the car sounds quieter and everything ,she even said on the phone that she feels like the car is actually driving better too, so I really don't know what they done.

All I have is that note which you'z can see there and I cant really understand what the guy is actually meaning in what he wrote, maybe one of you guys can though, please eh ?? Cheers and thanks again :)

p.s
pity I had to use one of my RAC lifes, but better safe than sorry I guess.316087

[Saltire]

For those that find the words hard to read, I think it says something like this although I cant really tell because it looks like he scribbled parts of it, so a couple of words I don't know, but anyway.

NOISE FROM ENGINE WHEN VEHICLE ENGINE RUNNING, TIMING COVER RUBBING OFF PULLEY "PR?S" (not sure of that word) COVER AND NOISE AWAY, VEHICLE REQ TIMING COVER REMOVED AND REFITTED AND ALSO "AIRBOX" (I think that's that word) LOCATING RUBBER MISSING REQ NEW RUBBER, OIL LEVEL GOOD.

Does that make any sense to anyone ??

[Saltire]

It seems the cam belt cover was not fitted very well after the belt change and was rubbing on the belt/cam/crank pulleys below causing the noise.

The apprentice done yer job, cos the fitter was hanging from the night before. :roflmao:

JoK

LOL, probably JoK, so much for sticking to the main dealerships as ive always done, eh ? lol

oh by the way, he gave her 20quid for petrol too, big deal though, probably used all that last night trying to check the stupid temperature :(

[alessioblaupunkt]

Yeah looks like everything is ok but the guy who did the timing must be trained for:
* install correctly timing cover
* install correctly airbox (missing rubber)

Crash course: how to handle plastic parts :)

[Saltire]

what is the airbox anyway ? I have heard of airfilter casing etc, but not an airbox ?

[MJRVR]

what is the airbox anyway ? I have heard of airfilter casing etc, but not an airbox ?

Same thing, just different terminology.

[Saltire]

ohh I see MJRVR, I wasn't sure, thanks :)