AVDI BCM2 KEY LEARNING

[acautolocksmiths]

Hello
Has anyone succesfully programmed a smart key to these vehicles since latest update .Reason im asking is before update i had about 80 genuine Audi smart keys unlocked ,and i used about 20 with no problem at all but since update the key learning gos through all stages correctly untill it comes to writing the smart key but then it does not recognise a key there .
i read the key no problem with tag tool before i go into key learning but after key learning key not recognized
Just wondering if anyone else having problems with genuine keys

Maybe the latest AVDI update only allows key programming with there own Abritus keys :-(
Cheers
Tony

[indienick]

Damn, I hope that is not the case....

The car is locked up when it fails to write to your key or no?
What I mean is - does it cause you problems like the car cannot start after?

[totalkey]

Hello
Has anyone succesfully programmed a smart key to these vehicles since latest update .Reason im asking is before update i had about 80 genuine Audi smart keys unlocked ,and i used about 20 with no problem at all but since update the key learning gos through all stages correctly untill it comes to writing the smart key but then it does not recognise a key there .
i read the key no problem with tag tool before i go into key learning but after key learning key not recognized
Just wondering if anyone else having problems with genuine keys

Maybe the latest AVDI update only allows key programming with there own Abritus keys :-(
Cheers
Tony
Do you really think it's open only for abritus remote?
Drama queen

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[ninja123]

Send logs to KAP - LOL :)

Lets see how much abuse they give you for not using their keys!

ninja

[acautolocksmiths]

Hello
I have just had pone call from Naheem at Kap Diagnostics confirming that the genuine keys unlocked by freshcarkeys and the chinese copy keys will no longer work on there AVDI after recent update as the id of the key file has been put on there block list .
Ninja i did send logs to kaps this morning and several emails whilst at job but now they have just told me.
Looks like stuck with 80 genuine unlocked keys unless i buy edilocks tool or use the avdi clone to program them (dont think the clone option realy)
So at moment its aftermarket keys only from Abritus to complete job on the genuine tool
Tony

[acautolocksmiths]

indienick no the car doesnt lock up

[Fallen]

Hello
keys unlocked by freshcarkeys and the chinese copy keys will no longer work on there AVDI after recent update as the id of the key file has been put on there block list .



I hope this is a bad joke.
What block list?

[autofan1965]

Why bad joke? Its less money for abritus when they cant sell his ugly audi bcm2 keys.

[Fallen]

Why bad joke? Its less money for abritus when they cant sell his ugly audi bcm2 keys.

Abritus would be stupid to do such a thing.
Averybody will just turn to VVDI and learn the keys that way.
It would encourage people to buy the clone interface and the more people the use it, the more people will spread the word if it works.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=320350&stc=1

[Bishop c4]

[QUOTE=Fallen;2551966]Abritus would be stupid to do such a thing.
Averybody will just turn to VVDI and learn the keys that way.
It would encourage people to buy the clone interface and the more people the use it, the more people will spread the word if it works.

/QUOTE]

Hey m8 are you now pointing the heavy guns against them?? I hope something good comes out of all this :) or is it to much to ask for a change?

Best Regards

[totalkey]

They just cross the line if it's true

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[Fallen]

Hello mate, long time!

If it's true, then it's very sly of them to do it and not even mention it.
They produce their own key to sell and then stop supporting other types of keys, if its true its bad business and also unethical.

[acautolocksmiths]

Hello
I can guarantee this is true , i had the telephone call yesterday from there agent responding to my emails and logs .I have just had to purchase 3 keys from them ( ?150 each )to get me out of ~~~~ with jobs booked untill i look at the other options on programming tool .
This should not be the case as obviously as how can we compete with our prices against the prices charged by the ones using the FVDI with cheeper option keys .
Me myself thought it would be a bad selling point for AVDI for it to be tied to only supporting there keys when as you say the FVDI is programming the copy keys
Tony

[acautolocksmiths]

confirmation of this can be seen on Kap diagnostics forumn where i have listed under BCM2 key learning

[Master01]

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[ninja123]

EVERYONE - PLEASE VOICE YOURSELVES ON KAP & ABRITES FORUM - THEY NEED TO REVERSE THIS SITUATION.

I will cancel my ams plan and no longer buy any updates until this is fixed, I urge EVERYONE TO DO THE SAME.

THEY CAN NOT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS.

[acautolocksmiths]

Hello i have just had another phone call from Naheem at Kap Diagnostics regarding my post on there forum and he ask me to let it be known that this will be reversed to allow us to use our keys.We just have to await the update now to rescheduel jobs already booked.
Tony

Seems sense as why let the clones conquer the market

[sparkz02]

I think people with AVDI lost the edge so many new tools/clones. Unless u deal with 2013+ cars which most of us don't. Then ontop of that you got to deal with AVDI themselves what a joke.

[ninja123]

WHY DONT KAP ANNOUNCE THIS?

WHY SHOULD WE WAIT TILL NEXT UPDATE (LAST ONE TOOK 3 MONTHS)????

WAS THIS KAPS DOING OR ABRITES??

WE HAVE ALL JUST BEEN F---KED YET AGAIN, WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP??

THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AFTER US, WE HAVE SPENT TEN OF THOUSANDS WITH THESE PEOPLE, JUST SUMS UP THE LACK OF RESPECT THAT WE HAVE ALL COME TO EXPECT FROM THESE THIEVING ARSE HOLES.

NINJA :(

[whiskeyman]

well the vag side of abrites has been a bit of a let down for me
was expecting great things besides my vvdi

was not to be

[Rito]

I have original AVDI if this is true I NEVER will bay this software....
We invest in this tool for can WORK in all options for custumers......

[smokey08]

This sort of bulls**t makes me think twice before buying more modules for my AVDI.

First they grouped alot of modules together to force you to buy stuff you dont use.
Next to get the free updates you have to buy the yearly AMS.
Now they are trying to force us to use their keys.

Whoever has all these great ideas to increase their revenue is getting it all wrong.
I Personally would have spent alot more money with them if they had kept it the way it was when I brought the tool.

They really need to re-evaluate their business model.
Simple solution:
Keep the AMS scheme.
Make the basic interface a little cheaper to get more people to buy it. (More AMS subs + The modules look a better price when comparing to other tools if you already own the interface).
Split the modules up again into more affordable sections. (Less $ per sale but alot more sales).
Keep the updates regular, even if there only minor. (Mercedes and VAG are falling along way behind).
Focus on development to keep ahead of the competition.

I hope they read this post.

[Jeanhdo]

AVDI was an excellent tool! Today is not over, we have a lot of VW vehicles sold in Brazil that are not supported by the AVDI, and no one bothers to solve.
Every day that passes is getting worse, taking too long to release updates and prices ever higher.
The best option is being investing in Chinese equipment, SKP-900, X-100 Pro, etc ... always with releases that help us and fair price, not forcing us to use keys that they sell.
I hope the team ABRITES read what is being discussed here and review the way they are acting, that way you are going to lose many customers.

Brazil that are not supported by the

Regards
Jean

[joemajdalani]

Today used AVDI to program a China key on 2012 Audi A5 ,all went as normal.

[indienick]

Today used AVDI to program a China key on 2012 Audi A5 ,all went as normal.


what version software you have m8?

[indienick]

If any of you guys have sent me keys for virginize and they no longer can work because of this update, please send me PM and we will make special arrangement for you. Maybe I can just buy the keys from you or something. Let us put our heads together but obviously I do not want my customers to sit around with wasted money if I can help it at all we will provide you solution. Hopefully what Naheem said regarding a roll-back is true but if it is not, please do not worry about these now worthless keys, we will offer solution, thank you.

This offer is extended to DK forum members only.

[indienick]

I wish Abrites understand that not all customer is ok with aftermarket keys. So if we have all keys lost and want to offer same day service now, it must be aftermarket key for their possibly $60,000 $70,000 Audi.


I wonder if BMW PCF7945+7953 is next????

[ninja123]

All this has come to light just as I was preparing to order 3 more updates - NOT NOW.

Some major arse licking is needed after this...........

[PremierD]

Licking .... don't you mean with a ...K... :)

[indienick]

All this has come to light just as I was preparing to order 3 more updates - NOT NOW.

Some major arse licking is needed after this...........

kissing, or kicking, but not licking hahaha

but to each their own, of course.....

[indienick]

this is just so crazy. Such an obvious lack of respect to even have this feature, but to do it without announcement???? It is a slap in the face.

edit: aha, just plain confused now hehe

[chriskross]

the best would be that we are testing if it will accept ori keys joemad.. tested it and it was working.

[Rito]

All menber whith have this software send email to abrites for change it....

Must off us make money to change used ecu?s....
And we invest AVDI to evit custumer go to dealer, so this away is difficult to work....

[obdsystems]

I'm late in on the discussion -

has all this actually been confirmed ?
or hear say ?

Having invested in the genuine kit I'm equally annoyed at members on this forum who have FVDI. But then again, we all have some cloned toys lol

Lets all calm down and see what happens :) what is true/false

[Fallen]

I'm late in on the discussion -

has all this actually been confirmed ?
or hear say ?

Having invested in the genuine kit I'm equally annoyed at members on this forum who have FVDI. But then again, we all have some cloned toys lol

Lets all calm down and see what happens :) what is true/false

This is true, on the KAP forum there is a post about it and the moderator confirmed that only their keys and original keys from the dealer for that car will work now.

[joemajdalani]

what version software you have m8?

V 26 at the moment

[obdsystems]

Ok Abritus must change it back.

How's Super VAG ? Real alternative?
Unless FVDI can develop there's? Is AD just clone of these?
Reciprocal questions!

And would be nice to get some backup :)

[nicolaus]

Hi today I went to make two spare key for audi a7 and audi q5 all ok until I have to precode the key I didn't precode I change the maybe is bad unlock key but same now I have like 20 oem keys unlocked can't use them i email to Miro will see if not I send his tool back this is ridiculous 2 weeks ago a program a a4 no problem so yes is true

[AlekN]

Hi Everyone,
I have no idea who has spoken to whom but I can assure you that the claim to this thread is false. In case someone has issues with the BCM 2 keys - why don't you send us the logs if you are working with us directly or send them through KAP. We would never do such a thing, so please stop speculating. If you have a question - send it to us and we will reply. Why does no one bother to ask about this issue before saying it does not work is beyond me and the whole team. If you have an issue with an Audi with a BCM 2 send us or KAP diagnostics the logs and ALL THE DETAILS in regards to the car - we will help you fix it.
Once again - there is no such thing - Confirmed. If you have issues or questions -********************

[PremierD]

"This is true, on the KAP forum there is a post about it and the moderator confirmed that only their keys and original keys from the dealer for that car will work now."

Is this a different KAP from your"s mate ....... :)

[rapidlocksmiths]

It must be my old age kicking in , but in reading the thread i admit to being confused , one post suggests that kap have verbally confirmed this to be the case and that only their keys and dealer prepared keys will work , we now have a post from a member of the abrites team saying this is not the case and such claims are false .

in fairness the kap post on their forum just states what keys currently work , it doesnt confirm that the refreshed keys have been removed by them or by Abrites in a bid to force us to use their key solutions , it just states the keys they know are currently working , or thats how i read it , their post is maybe vague and doesnt confirm whether a bug , a problem or a deliberate act , it simply states what keys currently work , so kap in my view havnt confirmed that this has been deliberately done or otherwise it just states what keys they know to be working .
The problem is the written word can be misinterpreted , clear clarification should put this to bed.

what would be useful is an email from kap and abrites to all their customers stating the facts , if just a bug and in need of log files to correct this then say so and im sure plenty of log files will be sent in , if an oversight that will be corrected by update then announce in an email with timescale , customers just need to know it will be rectified.

i do find it all confusing , with abrites now saying its not the case and others saying it is the case , all i know for sure is keys that were once working , now are not , im only interested in if and when this will be rectified and is the info i think we all want and need , ive no interest in conspiracy theories , name calling , rumour or hear say , just facts and the fact is its not working since update so will this be fixed and when will it be fixed , anything else is of no consequence to me.

Abrites have posted here and said their is no deliberate act and asked for log files so they can correct this , that at least is a positive and from the horses mouth so to speak , so send log files as requested and hope for a swift fix to the issues, if this turns out to be nothing more than a bug that needs fixing then maybe benefit of the doubt is needed and patience to let them fix it.

[AlekN]

Can you say post a screenshot of that or post a link?

[rapidlocksmiths]

Its just been announced on another forum that the software issue has been found and fixed and that all owners of AN049 will recieve their new links very soon .

so a software issue , quickly fixed and quickly resolved , so no need for the name calling and the animosity that has surrounded this issue , maybe in future the lesson is to 1st talk direct to the distributors and manufacturers for a quicker resolution .

Who needs to say sorry to whom is unimportant , the important info is its been fixed and we will get new updates very soon , which has to be good news for all , im happy its resolved now.

[Fallen]

It's taken 3 days to get Abritus to announce there is a bug and it will be fixed.
I find it hard to believe that the original guy who reported the issue made up the whole thing.
Did he make up the phone calls from Kap? Did he make up the report of black listing keys?

If it was not true, why didn't the Admin at Kap just say "sorry mate, your lying, that conversation never happened and here is your ban for lying" but instead only listed original dealer keys and their keys as working?

We all move on and the problem is solved but it makes you wonder if it would have been solved if everybody did not produce the outcry that we did.

[rapidlocksmiths]

thats something we will never know 100% , i wouldnt accuse anyone of making anything up and dont believe he did i believe he believed this to be the case from his conversations , maybe it was an underhand act by manufacturer , maybe it was a misinterpreted conversation , i dont know , im just glad its resolved positively.

im all for getting together and having a voice to get something put right , as such a loud voice becomes far harder to ignore , but when frustration kicks in and it turns from venting opinion to the odd abusive remarks or character attacking the voice dims and the purpose can be lost , the point becomes lost and it becomes personal instead , im just old fashioned and think that any such outcry should refrain from rudeness and becoming personal , but thats just my way .

whether its the outcry that achieved it or whether a simple software bug is unimportant now , whats important is its fixed and we can get on with earning a living.

[PremierD]

I'd vote for the fact that someone objected to what was being done .. said so ..on here and other places .. which forced someone to act and come up with a good excuse ... end off .:)

[rapidlocksmiths]

And if the case they achieved their goal very well indeed , whether the solution came from 1 mans bottle to expose a wrong and the support he gathered forced a resolution , in which case his actions have benefitted all of us users and a big thanks to him for this , or whether just a software bug , the outcry certainly played its part in the positive outcome , whether by exposing a wrong or just speeding up a fix .

ive no doubt at all that underhand reason or simple bug fix , the strength in numbers and the outcry certainly helped speed up the resolution

as stated whats important no matter what caused it , is it is fixed and we will soon have this function back , which is an excellent outcome for us all as everyone for a change wins .

[PremierD]

By ~~~~ mate you could talk for England ... ... everyone knows what happened .. ... without the war and peace bit .

[chriskross]

i already got the update with the bug fix [emoji3]

[obdsystems]

lol true martin loves a natter
i'll do sucking up & say very happy with my Abritus kit - VAG has always worked well

[ninja123]

i already got the update with the bug fix [emoji3]


You must be on payroll lol :)

[totalkey]

Got update today that fixing this keys issue, now all as before.I hope

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[acautolocksmiths]

Hello my original post was to ask if anyone else had problems just like i was whilst programming genuine unlocked keys since update
I sent log files as always when a problem arises not just for my own benefit but everybodys.
I waited several hours for verdict and that came by phone call .
Wether im believed or not over this phone call is your choice but would i be silly enough put on kap forum if it never happened
Not meant to stir up trouble for kaps but just clearly putting forward the conversation to you all so you did not try to go out and program these keys just as i had
I mentioned phone call on forum as i wasnt told i wasnt to and i thought it was no secret .So if no secret why not post to warn others of situation
Anyway wether a software glitch or reversal its been acted upon and a new fix is being sent so we can get back to the job
Still not got my updates and customers waiting but hopefully here soon
Im sure you will gain more customers Indienick for your generous offer on helping everyone out - keep up the good work on the excellent service you always provide
Tony

[nazz2]

I am surprised That you didnt get insulted by the Krap diagnostics, he must have realised that he is losing customers, but Leopard never changes his spots!, Thanks for clearing this up Alek, now please fix the Vag K line issue, Thanks friend.

[gttuning]

got update as well.im not in to keys but it was not fare for all customers.

[acautolocksmiths]

Hello
I have just received my update and tested the fix after glitch in software :chuncky: and i can now confirm it once again programs genuine unlocked keys . Indienick yours are once again working perfect
Cheers
Tony

[ninja123]

Ive got a few keys I need to get re-newed, but there are a few different part numbers, and I dont know what cars some of them are from, they are all from UK cars, but are they interchangeable?

Dont want to get them 'fixed' if they are of no use to me!

IE - 4G0 959 754 K

8T0 959 754 D

8T0 959 754 K

Thanks for any info :)

ninja

[acautolocksmiths]

There interchangeable mate

[chriskross]

has anyone already tested the key inspector i have the sw but have no key yet for testing it.

[Rito]

I receive this software today and I try programe this key:
http://www.autokeys.us/product_details.php?category_id=54&item_id=2183

But not work, programer say not good key...

Someone can tell-me how unlock used key??

Thanks