Pin code for remote Alfa Romeo 156

[malczykos]

Hello.

I need program remote for Alfa Romeo 156. Please help with PIN.
In attachement is dump of remote receiver HC05B16.

[autochei]

u need pin code for programing remote
read bsi put dump here or immobox

[malczykos]

Alfa 156 isn`t have BSI.
PIN for immo box is only for transponder.

PIN for remote coding is different to transponder and is in this dump!

[Bllinda]

Look for yellow or black box .... or must be 9.1.2 or C.6.6
And to you in a black box and inside c.5.6.x.1.6

[malczykos]

Look for yellow or black box .... or must be 9.1.2 or C.6.6
And to you in a black box and inside c.5.6.x.1.6


For Alfa 156 it is correct remote box receiver !!! This bos is in comartment.

[Bllinda]

Where is the "ring" wires to the BSI block?
Exactly what kind of connector and the color of the wires?

[malczykos]

Alfa 156 don`t have BSI. Immo is in immo box under sterring whell. Remote is stored in remote receiver in compartment.

[Cromwe11]

Remote programming pin code- 62628

[malczykos]

Remote programming pin code- 62628

Big thanx.

Code OK !!!!

Regards

[Cromwe11]

If you get another one its a nice easy one. In your dump pin code is 9D9D7 xor fffff = 62628

[mikajna]

If you get another one its a nice easy one. In your dump pin code is 9D9D7 xor fffff = 62628

Hi mate, this is pretty good info...I didnt know that remote receiver have different pin code...tell me is pin code stored on same address for Alfa Romeo receivers? or you must find out which bytes are for pin code?

And how you'll programme remote with this pin code, with some tool or some manual way?

Thank you in advance :)

[Cromwe11]

Hi mate, this is pretty good info...I didnt know that remote receiver have different pin code...tell me is pin code stored on same address for Alfa Romeo receivers? or you must find out which bytes are for pin code?

And how you'll programme remote with this pin code, with some tool or some manual way?

Thank you in advance :)

For Alfa only 156 uses this type of receiver (some Fiat and Lacia models use it as well) pin code is in the same position in dump for all 156's. Programming is done diagnostically pretty much all the dedicated key programmers will do it as will AlfaOBD and plenty of other diagnostic software.

[mikajna]

All 156 is on same address, and what about other models are they have pin code on different address or it could be on same?
What about Fiat Punto remote with 1 button, is this remote work on this way, or it work over body control unit, are you work on this remotes sometime?

Here is image...
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=325769&stc=1

Thanks mate, its really good stuff to know :)

[simaservis1108]

Punto is stored in BCM.

Only 1 button reusable remote is Doblo restyling with Stilo type body.

[autoelek]

Hi I have the same receiver box in Alfa 156, I have read HC05 from this box and by me code is 10929 (EF6D6 xor FFFFF), but when I want to program remote I can see wrong password ... Can someone help ? I attached dump file from HC05.

[gtmech]

Hi I have the same receiver box in Alfa 156, I have read HC05 from this box and by me code is 10929 (EF6D6 xor FFFFF), but when I want to program remote I can see wrong password ... Can someone help ? I attached dump file from HC05.

10929 is correct, restart software and try again

[bajticzek]

Hey guys, it looks like I have something extra again.

I read the 0D60J (HC05B32) chip with XPROG-m, but I have one 0 at the place where the code should be. What does the 0 translate to? I tried reading it in different adapter, but I got the same content from chip.

My unit looks like this:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=327734&stc=1http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=327735&stc=1

And the code is here:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=327737&stc=1

Thank you for any info.

[autoelek]

10929 is correct, restart software and try again

Code 10929 is 100% not good, testing with magneti marelli logic and fiat examiner, I don't have idea how to calculate good code

[mikajna]

@Autoelek your PIN CODE is 92970 100%...try and report ;)

(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/317355-bajticzek)@Bajticzek your PIN CODE is 93900 100%...and you to mate, try and report

Best Regards

[simaservis1108]

What did you use to read HC08?

Dumps are all wrong...

[autoelek]

@Autoelek your PIN CODE is 92970 100%...try and report ;)

@Bajticzek your PIN CODE is 93900 100%...and you to mate, try and report

Best Regards

I tested code and car was accepted this code, I confirm that code 92970 is good and matched to file "hc05=2015-08-21.rar (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=327726&d=1440330649)" which I was attached in previous post ! THANKS mikajna

[mikajna]

What did you use to read HC08?

Dumps are all wrong...

No Simo, MCU is HC05B32...vidimo se uskoro druze ;)

[simaservis1108]

My mistake,HC05.

Dumps are shifted,must be reading bug.
If we shift them two positions backwards one pair we get correct position for pincode.
I guess that is why you have two extra 00 in the beginning of your dump.

[bajticzek]

mikajna and simaservis1108 - Thanks for the answer. I will test the code today and report. It makes sense the positions are wrong - it really looks like the code is shifted by one word.

[bajticzek]

Ok, so the code is not working. I login via AlfaOBD with code 93900, I try to store new remotes and AlfaOBD immediately says the code is wrong, so the unit doesn't accept the procedure... Should I buy UPA to read the chip? I have XPROG-m, as I said earlier, so maybe the reading via this was wrong... I also have CarProg 4.01, do you think this box can read the HC05 without any problem? Or should I buy the UPA and don't risk messing the chip with CarProg?

[simaservis1108]

Best is ETL.

I have for every MCU family.
Never had any problems.


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[mikajna]

Ok, so the code is not working. I login via AlfaOBD with code 93900, I try to store new remotes and AlfaOBD immediately says the code is wrong, so the unit doesn't accept the procedure... Should I buy UPA to read the chip? I have XPROG-m, as I said earlier, so maybe the reading via this was wrong... I also have CarProg 4.01, do you think this box can read the HC05 without any problem? Or should I buy the UPA and don't risk messing the chip with CarProg?

Mate I just check your whole dump from image you had post here...and your dump is not good, maybe is because programmer which you used, as said mr.Sima, really I dont know, just know that row 00000060 must have fixed bytes, not all but almost all...and your dump dont have it.

Read that MCU again, and post here dump...than we will see is problem in reading or mcu is corrupted

[cyniux]

Hi
I have problem with my dump. The pin it's 71609 but it not working. I read mcu with xprog. Maybe I doing something wrong. Can somebody check my dump and write the correct pin?
328998

[mikajna]

Hi
I have problem with my dump. The pin it's 71609 but it not working. I read mcu with xprog. Maybe I doing something wrong. Can somebody check my dump and write the correct pin?
328998

Your dump looks good, and PIN code is same as you try...71609 :( you can try to read again with some other tool

[cyniux]

Thank mikajna for check this file. I have only xprog. Today I check this code with examiner maybe it's work. I try only with AlfaObd and no succes.

[Bllinda]

If before it was wrong balancer, wait ....

[cyniux]

If before it was wrong balancer, wait ....
What are you mean?

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[Bllinda]

.... ezeli wprowadzil neprawidlowi pin, zacekai....


What are you mean?

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[cyniux]

I know what you write ;) and thank you for polish translation:) I have only Software MES and AlfaObd. Only AlfaObd have funcion to add remote to alfa 156 without body ecu. When I connect on the Top in program is connected and pin accepted. But when i try to open storage remote, then in winndow message says not connected with pin, pin wrong.
How long i must wait to connect with correct pin?


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[Dann2002]

I got the exact same problem .... but after reading this topic many times, I understood that the PIN from recivier remote control is different from immobilizer PIN .... please correct me if I'm wrong to !

[cyniux]

Yes You are right the PIN from remote is different

[Dann2002]

ok, thank you ... but what program you read the pin code of the remote recivier?

[paul_12345]

Hey guys, it looks like I have something extra again.

I read the 0D60J (HC05B32) chip with XPROG-m, but I have one 0 at the place where the code should be. What does the 0 translate to? I tried reading it in different adapter, but I got the same content from chip.

My unit looks like this:


And the code is here:

Thank you for any info.

you really need to learn how to solder before touching peoples cars.

[mikajna]

This is not easy job, you must be expert or must have some expert who can do that job...because damage which you can make while doing this job is much bigger than you can imagine, not for this receiver particular, but many module's in automotive are so expensive, and risk is huge...better find some who is master for this and bring him receiver, need to read MCU HC05

[paul_12345]

This is not easy job, you must be expert or must have some expert who can do that job...because damage which you can make while doing this job is much bigger than you can imagine, not for this receiver particular, but many module's in automotive are so expensive, and risk is huge...better find some who is master for this and bring him receiver, need to read MCU HC05

not just damage doing the job, but poor soldering like this could cause all sorts of problems and failure of the joints - I dread to think how many airbags have been reset with soldering like this.

I also noticed the new MB videos for IEA that hickleys have on their website.. shocking soldering from IEA I hope they dont do their own soldering for zed-full!!

[Dann2002]

333085I wanted to read it with Xprog M because it has many adapters including this chip

[cyniux]

Xprog read it but you must desolder this chip. I can't read it on board, I try and no succes.

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[Dann2002]

I did not know that, I'm looking for a specialist in this case :)

[cyniux]

At this week i will try again to read another hc05 with xprog and write resoults. My first eeprom is broken and i can't program new remote. Pin always is wrong. I try oryginal examiner and AlfaObd with no succes. I think someone broke it and I cant use pin from eeprom.


I read new hc05 with xprog and read new Pin. 100% succes :) Pin working and I store new remote. My eeprom in old box was broken so i could not program the new reamote and pin no worked.

[Dann2002]

After many phone calls, I am forced to give up trying to learn a new key on the remote control receiver.....In Romania I have not found anyone who has the necessary equipment for reading PIN code.... maybe it is, but I can not find it!!!!!
The easiest is to buy a key and a receiver from another car! :(

[Dann2002]

I read new hc05 with xprog and read new Pin. 100% succes :) Pin working and I store new remote. My eeprom in old box was broken so i could not program the new reamote and pin no worked.

Can you tell me how you did exactly? How the new HC05 connected to xprog?

[cyniux]

I buy used central lock reciever and desolder hc05 from it, read with xprog and extract the pin from eeprom. Next solder hc05 and programmed with pin 2 used remotes.
I try to read hc05 on board but i cannot read it. If you want read without desolder you must desolder and lift only this legs that will be needed for programming.

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[bajticzek]

you really need to learn how to solder before touching peoples cars.

I am not an idiot. I can solder very well. If I can solder chips with leg pitch of 0.025 inch with ease, do you really think that HC05 with 0.8mm pitch would be a problem? So I don't really get your "advice".

Nevertheless, my UPA came today and I read the HC05 again. Content of the chip is attached, the bytes on needed positions are the same. Verify is OK, so the content must be read without a problem. It looks like I have some other version of central locking unit than you, guys...

And if anyone thinks the chip is damaged, it is not, if I solder it back to the unit, central locking works flawlessly.

337227

[cyniux]

You have maybe the same problem. My hc05 looks good i desolder it read and solder. Central lock and remote are working but i can't use readed pin. Sometimes the eeprom in hc05 are broken and you cannot read it properly. I doing the 606693420 siemens box. In the first box the eeprom in hc05 are broken. I buy the same box and read it without any problem. I do 606693420, 60653303, 60670721. All this boxes I do with simple xprog. Only my first box have a broken eeprom and I cannot properly read it but central lock and remote work good. Maybe you try with another box, it's very cheap.

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[paul_12345]

I am not an idiot. I can solder very well. If I can solder chips with leg pitch of 0.025 inch with ease, do you really think that HC05 with 0.8mm pitch would be a problem? So I don't really get your "advice".

Nevertheless, my UPA came today and I read the HC05 again. Content of the chip is attached, the bytes on needed positions are the same. Verify is OK, so the content must be read without a problem. It looks like I have some other version of central locking unit than you, guys...

And if anyone thinks the chip is damaged, it is not, if I solder it back to the unit, central locking works flawlessly.

337227

I didn't say you was an idiot.

But looking at the picture you posted of your soldering you can not "solder very well"

[bajticzek]

These are photos I have taken before I started to do anything with the board, to be sure I solder everything back in place as it was. :D If you are reffering to white/yellowish places around some legs, it's oxidation, because this unit is located in a trunk. Sometimes for as long as eighteen years... But I think a "skilled" electrician like you would notice that. Maybe you are not and you are just acting like a complete douche.

And as cyniux said, I will use another module. Friend has got few of these in his garage. I'll compare the P/Ns and will see.

[mikajna]

(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/317355-bajticzek)Mate, try to write some else dump in your mcu...this thread have a lot of dumps, try with any dump and already calculated pin code, than program your remote and new remote, that will work if everything other is ok.

best regards

[cyniux]

Mikajna you are right. I try the same method. My hc05 after write the another dump is silent but it is maybe broken.
This module have a few version of firmware and hardware. The module uses a few types remote with one, two and three buttons. If he write a wrong dump the module dosen't work or sometimes work but without all function.


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[Cromwe11]

Mikajna you are right. I try the same method. My hc05 after write the another dump is silent but it is maybe broken.
This module have a few version of firmware and hardware. The module uses a few types remote with one, two and three buttons. If he write a wrong dump the module dosen't work or sometimes work but without all function.


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There are only two types of remote. Single button red remote >2000 and two button black remote 2000>

[cyniux]

I see a oryginal three button black remote with button door, window, and trunk in alfa romeo 156 3.2 v6 '04

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[simaservis1108]

Alfa Romeo 156 never had 3 button remote.Only 2 button.

[Cromwe11]

I see a oryginal three button black remote with button door, window, and trunk in alfa romeo 156 3.2 v6 '04

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147&GT used a three button remote that has lock/unlock/trunk. Never seen any Alfa remote with a window button. I work with Alfa's every week and have owned every model of 156 going from 1.8ts to 3.2GTA. Never seen a three button remote on any 156. Can't find it in the Alfa parts catalog either. What market was that 156 from? Don't suppose you have the vin so I can look it up?

[cyniux]

Sorry you are right. I ask my friend who have this remote and he talk this remote have a three buttons. It is oryginal remote but reciever is a not oryginal. He use a lock button to open/close doors, unlock button for open/close windows, and trunk button.
Sorry friend for my mistakes :)
Best regards ;)

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[paul_12345]

These are photos I have taken before I started to do anything with the board, to be sure I solder everything back in place as it was. :D If you are reffering to white/yellowish places around some legs, it's oxidation, because this unit is located in a trunk. Sometimes for as long as eighteen years... But I think a "skilled" electrician like you would notice that. Maybe you are not and you are just acting like a complete douche.

And as cyniux said, I will use another module. Friend has got few of these in his garage. I'll compare the P/Ns and will see.

Clearly the chip has been soldered before by hand and clearly that is flux residue, but if this is before you touched it then theres no need to get get so defensive! I was giving you advise that soldering like this could cause problems if that is not your soldering then whats your problem.

Also by bad soldering I am not referring to the residue I'm talking about the bad soldering.

[Fallen]

Hey guys, it looks like I have something extra again.

I read the 0D60J (HC05B32) chip with XPROG-m, but I have one 0 at the place where the code should be. What does the 0 translate to? I tried reading it in different adapter, but I got the same content from chip.

.

I have the same thing, did you ever work out what the code was?
Label and dump attached.

[simaservis1108]

Dump corrupt.
Program other working dump with known pincode and program remotes.

[audiopoint]

help remote pin code

[rokibar]

pin code 12931

[mikajna]

Guys, does somebody have pinout or wiring diagram of Alfa Romeo Siemens central locking and for Lancia Lybra Siemens central locking? Thanks

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[p1et]

All Alfa 156 remotes need different PIN code to program than the PIN code on the code card / in immobox? Advanced diagnostics says 'some of' require different PIN.

[Cromwe11]

All Alfa 156 remotes need different PIN code to program than the PIN code on the code card / in immobox? Advanced diagnostics says 'some of' require different PIN.

Pin for immobiliser and remote are always different on 156. Code card only has the pin for immobiliser not the remote.

[dtip]

I don't want to open new thread for this, is "latest" alfas 156 , year 2006, also uses this separate remote control receiver? And where exactly is located if yes ? thank you

[lpf01]

If equipped with BSI it have the same pin for remote, if its the older system with immo box it requiresdifferent pin for remote.

[Cromwe11]

I don't want to open new thread for this, is "latest" alfas 156 , year 2006, also uses this separate remote control receiver? And where exactly is located if yes ? thank you

If its saloon then top of trunk under the parcel shelf in the centre. If its SW then behind carpet above wheel arch next to the fuel filler neck.

[darko6985]

help remote pin lybra thanks

[alfahaze]

Hi, I just joined the board to share some information about the Alfa 156 remote ECU. I managed to build my own EEPROM code extracotr, and here is the dump I got. I don't seem to be able to get the PIN code to work with AlfaOBD though. I can connect, and switch the unit between Alarm mode and Doors mode, but I cannot seem to add a remote. Please save me from reverse engineering the entire 16k ROM on this chip to see how it works!

548724548725

[HeXeN]

I urgently need pin code Alfa 156 2006
is this 02670? I will try

[rokibar]

I urgently need pin code Alfa 156 2006
is this 02670? I will try
yes 02670 correct code for remote programming

[alenfox]

help remote pin alfa romeo 156 2003 thanks

[HeXeN]

help remote pin alfa romeo 156 2003 thanks
pincode 82168

[alenfox]

Code 82168 is 100% not good

[aecio]

Hello everybody.
I know this post is a bit old, but I have read it in its entirety and I have some doubts.
Can someone show me/teach me, how to translate the hexadecimal readings of the dumps to codes, for example, why 9D9D7xor fffff is 62628, which is the trick or method, I have tried with some tables of the Fiat group that I have found on the internet, but without result, can someone explain it to me?
Another thing, I have been able to read the eeprom (ST95080) of the immo ECU for my car (Alfa 156 2.0 JTS) MED7.1.1, with UPA, I have tried to virginize it with "IMMO universal decoding 3.2", but it tells me "incorrect file size ". Can someone virginize the file or tell me that I have to change in it to virginize it?
Lot of thanks.

[chikara3000]

Hi,aecio.
9D9D7xor fffff = 62628
xor is eXclusive OR.
It's　Hexadecimal calculation.

[AdamDavidSzocs]

Hey guys!

Can you please look up a REMOTE password to my VIN?

here goes : zar93200000202899

Alfa 156, 2001 ( i think)

Kind thanks in advance

Adam

[pedro rosario]

alfahaze thanks for share that info
I would like you to explain if it were possible for more of these connections because I didn't want to unsolder my mcu
I would like to know the remote receiver code to add more remotes
I owned a AR 156 GTA 2003
Thanks in advance

[pedro rosario]

Is there any kind of program or software that is possible to extract the code from VIN or only with the dealer?

[jodge]

only dealer or from MCU

[pedro rosario]

hello, happy new year for all
the remote receiver MCU reference is motorola ZC501650CFU with 0D60J mask. What kind of series is this?

[jodge]

hello, happy new year for all
the remote receiver MCU reference is motorola ZC501650CFU with 0D60J mask. What kind of series is this?


https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/MC68HC05X16.pdf

[pedro rosario]

Tanks for the info Jodge, I have a siemens remote unit from alfa 156 3.2 from 2003 (Key with 2 buttons) with MCU Motorola SC512020CFU, this is HC05? or MC68.
Another thing, the Microcontroler eeprom memory where is the PIN code is inside or outside of it?

[alfa8x]

Hi guys, I dismantled the radio control box from an Alfa 156, I tried to read it in all ways with xprog on the circuit, desoldering it with its adapter, upa etc but I can't communicate with the mcu. can you help me on how to connect (it seems to me that the adapter for xprog needs to be modified but I don't know how) because when I try it it remains fixed in bypass security... the cpu is always the 0D60J motorola. Thank you