Welcome to the "Cloud" 2016

[ray-ray]

All new system starting with Chrysler , GMC, and rest to follow. Cloud base account to auto security specialist with nasfta yearly subscription. As long as you pay and follow there guideline any monky can get a keycode and dealer protcal key programming via the "Cloud". Dealer Key bought off eBay ,dealer keycode part of the package,dealer programmin.

[obdsystems]

all changes. doubt same access to this in UK/Europe

[Automat]

Hasn't this already been the case Ray?

[ray-ray]

It's destroy the craft.

[obdsystems]

well there's too much free info. too many people doing keys.

not saying right, but all manufacturers are tighting up. think europ is ahead of u guys

have to spend more dosh & look for ways round it like pin exraction.

[Automat]

Time to concentrate on my commercial hardware work, sounds like the auto lock biz in the USA is going flat. It was already getting bad enough when USA organisation ALOA got involved with NASTF. That's when the banana trees were given to the monkeys.

[ray-ray]

Nastf claims there 25,000 locksmiths in the USA , only 900 are reg. with NASTF. Within a few years the number will grow.

[techterr]

Time to reup my LSID... $300.00 for 2 years.... Well, at least I get something back from it... unlike ALOA where you even had to buy a sticker to put on your van.... Pretty soon the Volvo Vidas is going to sound cheap...
Take care,
Tim

[Automat]

I understand auto shops can be NASTF members.

[ray-ray]

Yes they can re flash a Ecu but can not get a key code to make the key. So I guess I'll start working a motorcycle & jet ski.