NoImmo MBE whats happened?

[Fallen]

It's been 10 months since their last update, that's a long time.
Other developers have made many advances in this time.
Anybody know if they are still developing this tool?

[daniersms]

Well I really hope so because I am also looking forward to some updates

[aassfour]

It's been 10 months since their last update, that's a long time.
Other developers have made many advances in this time.
Anybody know if they are still developing this tool?
yes the new update should be before october
it will be the unexpected update for benz and will make MB EVO on top of other benz tools

[54321]

It's been 10 months since their last update, that's a long time.
Other developers have made many advances in this time.
Anybody know if they are still developing this tool?

Just spare a thought for us poor AVDI Mercedes customers, we've been waiting for an update for 2 years! :bawling:

[Fallen]

Just spare a thought for us poor AVDI Mercedes customers, we've been waiting for an update for 2 years! :bawling:

I even bought Mercedes IR tool, what a waste of money that was.

You can bet your balls that they don't have a Mercedes developer at Abritus, not for a long time...

[autodigitec]

yes the new update should be before october
it will be the unexpected update for benz and will make MB EVO on top of other benz tools

You sure about this?

[aassfour]

You sure about this?

Yup
They ve already demonstrated the new update in America couple of weeks ago


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[paul_12345]

Yup
They ve already demonstrated the new update in America couple of weeks ago


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so what can it do ;) and how deep pockets do you need?

[aassfour]

so what can it do ;) and how deep pockets do you need?

A hint
BGA
and all key lost
By IR :)



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[daniersms]

Wow that will be great just hope the 204 is in there somewhere:party:

[obdsystems]

wow - i will re-mortgage my house in anticipation lads!

[autofan1965]

Yup
They ve already demonstrated the new update in America couple of weeks ago


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When they really have it what will be reason to hide it from customers and wait with releasing till end this year? Give some time to competition as fair-play move?

[workdamnyou]

Just spare a thought for us poor AVDI Mercedes customers, we've been waiting for an update for 2 years! :bawling:

No...we got MN024 a couple of months ago. But its pure sh1t :)

[aassfour]

When they really have it what will be reason to hide it from customers and wait with releasing till end this year? Give some time to competition as fair-play move?

From what I know that the software was ready since few months ago and I ve already said it here in DK in May that they will be the first to launch it but I have no idea about their marketing plan and it's timing but from my experience with noimmo that they will never launch a tool without taking their time in testing it to the max not like others who launches their tool and make the poor locksmiths test it and report it to fix it .


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[autofan1965]

MB is not vag that have hundreds different software/hardware versions. From my point they haven't finished it yet.

[cqae]

definately a long awaited update though, IM sure it will sell well!

[techterr]

Have heard rumors it will be an online program... Supposedly the database is too big for a regular computer... If you have the MBE software now, you know what I mean.. The data file for the MBE offline key tool is over 16 gigs of data... It took my computer around 10 minutes to extract it.. It sounds promising... The password software now only reads a few of the cars here in the US via IR... it will be great to see more models added..
Take care,

[paul_12345]

Have heard rumors it will be an online program... Supposedly the database is too big for a regular computer... If you have the MBE software now, you know what I mean.. The data file for the MBE offline key tool is over 16 gigs of data... It took my computer around 10 minutes to extract it.. It sounds promising... The password software now only reads a few of the cars here in the US via IR... it will be great to see more models added..
Take care,

16gb is nothing for a modern computer - you can get a 5tb hard disk for ?100 now I dont think the database will be bigger than that!

Sounds like an excuse for security if true - not hard for them to encrypt the database via aes with a massive bit key and use a dongle to hold the decryption routine.

[techterr]

So all the laptops sold come with a 5 tb drive now???? If you are going to go mainstream and sell a program, you have to make it viable to a large audience... not everybody knows how to install, format and load OS's to harddrives.. Much easier to host the database and allow access to it.. and yes, I think you are right about the security, but the chinese have hacked so many programs out there you can't blame any developer for trying to keep a handle on something they have spent years building... These are just my thoughts.. these and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee.. Cheers..

[obdsystems]

I hope its on-line - stop china cloning it then appearing everywhere on this forum !!!!

for a few 100 you can buy a mobile booster - requirement for a van now :)

[paul_12345]

So all the laptops sold come with a 5 tb drive now???? If you are going to go mainstream and sell a program, you have to make it viable to a large audience... not everybody knows how to install, format and load OS's to harddrives.. Much easier to host the database and allow access to it.. and yes, I think you are right about the security, but the chinese have hacked so many programs out there you can't blame any developer for trying to keep a handle on something they have spent years building... These are just my thoughts.. these and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee.. Cheers..

not heard of an external usb hard drive?? they can simply supply a hard drive with the database preloaded.

@obdsystems no one has yet to crack the senselock dongle - so for a program with a database to protect simply encrypt with something like AES with a large key then only allow 1 database lookup every X minutes.

These dongles cost 20 euro so why do people who buy original tools have to suffer online functions when such a cheap option exist to secure it.

[obdsystems]

true those dongles are good.

Any more news ??

[Fallen]

Still no update from MBE, I wonder what the story is?

[techterr]

I have heard that the MBE software is being tested right now.. rumors abound that they are here in the US making sure things work well.. they are also working on the US sprinters, in Europe the sprinters have been DAS3 since 2007, here in the US they still have a flip key similar to DAS2... These are my personal thoughts on the updated software, 1, it will be easier to use.. Desktop icons to start the programs... 2, it will work better on the newer vehicles... 3, you will still have to pull and solder the older EZS's that you can't read via IR.. I have been to there school and I believe they will succeed, they are a bunch of hardworking folks that take pride in what they are doing.... These are my thoughts... these and $5.00 will get you a cup of coffee...

[Fallen]

Last time I was talking to them they said the new update was ready and should be out in December.
It seems they keep saying the same thing but the update never eventuates.

[Siham]

Still no news about update ?? !! :(
It is possible to renew ezs (204) with noimmo ? as far i know i need to use sonderhasch ,but i was wondering if i still need a working key to renew it?!? :(
Also would like to add option to read pass from old eis with motorolla ,anyone can tell me if success rate is good? :)

[Rito]

It?s true I talk to noimmo support an him say it almost ready but I am wait it more then 4 mouths....
If it not ready soon maybe I will check mehaco or Diagspeed or thelegend.......

[autodigitec]

Still no news about update ?? !! :(
It is possible to renew ezs (204) with noimmo ? as far i know i need to use sonderhasch ,but i was wondering if i still need a working key to renew it?!? :(
Also would like to add option to read pass from old eis with motorolla ,anyone can tell me if success rate is good? :)

Yes you need a working key, motorola or v51/57 to extract password.

[Fallen]

So here we are, 15 months and still no update.
I'm pretty sure it's safe to say this is a dead project, you can only bullsh*t to your customers for so long before they stop believing.

[Mario3]

did they broke abrites record of no updates on benz ? lol

[iamfooser]

Yeah. I gave up waiting for their "updates". Moved on to mbdoctor for esl and vvdi bga.

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[techterr]

Still no news about update ?? !! :(
It is possible to renew ezs (204) with noimmo ? as far i know i need to use sonderhasch ,but i was wondering if i still need a working key to renew it?!? :(
Also would like to add option to read pass from old eis with motorolla ,anyone can tell me if success rate is good? :)

About the only way I have had good success with the older MC68XXX Motorola chips is taking them off and reading them the same way you would a Saab twice module... It's a pain, but it does work.. Have seen the newer software, it is for the newer cars, 2010 up.. As for MBE beating Abrites at the wait for an update game.... Has anybody checked out the AVDI with protag for mercedes yet??

.youtube.com/watch?v=TFW_z7F1PO8 put www in front of the link...

[Siham]

Still no news ??
What going wrong with MBE ?
Also no answer from support , WTF is happening to MBE ? :(

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[Fallen]

I'm guessing all the talented people left the company and development stopped, how else could you explain it?

[makp619]

I know a locksmith who knows the MBE staff personally, he actually flew out to them for training and has used there tool for years. According to him there was supposed to be a new update released then the person that runs things over there died suddenly. After that everything stopped. This is not a rumor.

Thats all I know, but I was also told that they were supposed to have a booth at JUST CARS convention in Florida this weekend and were going to display new tool. Maybe a member here attended and can shed more light. www.justcars.us

[ray-ray]

Joe rest in peace, They where there & no updated ready. Now I'm setting with Roy engineer from
diagspeed nice tool it can handle 2010 and up.

[Bllinda]

If I am not mistaken FBS7 already ....


maybe MBE develop FBS5 or FBS6 system :D :D

[makp619]

Roy at Diagspeed is awesome. Hung out with him the past 2 days got first hand experience with him. He just moved out here to the states
All I can say is that the future updates give the Diagspeed capabilities no tool has.

Roy offers great support and now they are the only Mercedes locksmith tool based in USA.

[Siham]

Roy at Diagspeed is awesome. Hung out with him the past 2 days got first hand experience with him. He just moved out here to the states
All I can say is that the future updates give the Diagspeed capabilities no tool has.

Roy offers great support and now they are the only Mercedes locksmith tool based in USA.


Diagspeed is a powerfull tool but price is madness like necpro57 or MI .
You cannot back your money in less than minimum of 2 years,but in some country where dealers service is ~~~~ you can get back your money in less than 6 month but its a risk.
Also i know xhorse will not be far of others tool if not ahead of those.

BR :)

[makp619]

@Siham

Benifit of Diagspeed is no tokens. VVDI provides BGA calculations thru 3rd party, has service been 100% reliable?

I know we have been averaging minimum of 5 jobs a week involving keys or 7G. Same goes for many others working on MB.
I know of people charging $500 to over $800 for Mercedes work. I dont. It also depends if you mainly work business to business or public.

I have had an issue with Diagspeed in that I couldnt write new key into EIS of 2008 X164.

[Siham]

VVDI provides BGA calculations thru 3rd party, has service been 100% reliable? You are totally wrong my friend . :)Also tokens with xhorse is only for BGA calculations and for FBS3 passwords when all keys are lost ,for all other work we do not need any tokens.BTW everyone has his own reasons to choose one tool and not the other .Regards :)

[autodigitec]

@Siham

Benifit of Diagspeed is no tokens. VVDI provides BGA calculations thru 3rd party, has service been 100% reliable?

I know we have been averaging minimum of 5 jobs a week involving keys or 7G. Same goes for many others working on MB.
I know of people charging $500 to over $800 for Mercedes work. I dont. It also depends if you mainly work business to business or public.

I have had an issue with Diagspeed in that I couldnt write new key into EIS of 2008 X164.

Some time ago people said Diagspeed went from no tokens to 100€ token for BGA calculation. Is it no tokens again?

I don't understand why these companies treat their expensive devices like toys and don't make good website explaining everything and also good manuals.

[Mario3]

Yes now its NO token for diagspeed... only tool that i saw has only good feedback on all functions and options is necpro57... i have Mercedesinstrument wich is also perfect only it uses tokens for BGA calculations wich is a bit annoying..

Anyone can give feedback from firsthand of necpro57 ??

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[ray-ray]

Mark "Steriling Motorsport" is waiting for his software. Scott is waiting for your call (small world)!

[MBZmechanic]

I talked to Roy at diagspeed and he is almost done with FBS2 for all keys lost on 204. That alone is going to make his tool unbeatable. Its fast and does way more than he advertises. We are working on making videos to simplify the process on navigating the tool.

New website is on the way too. All these things are being addressed to make this tool "THE'" tool for Benz keys

[paul_12345]

I talked to Roy at diagspeed and he is almost done with FBS2 for all keys lost on 204. That alone is going to make his tool unbeatable. Its fast and does way more than he advertises. We are working on making videos to simplify the process on navigating the tool.

New website is on the way too. All these things are being addressed to make this tool "THE'" tool for Benz keys

"we are working on" so this is your tool then??

[Johnner]

I talked to Roy at diagspeed and he is almost done with FBS2 for all keys lost on 204. That alone is going to make his tool unbeatable. Its fast and does way more than he advertises. We are working on making videos to simplify the process on navigating the tool.

New website is on the way too. All these things are being addressed to make this tool "THE'" tool for Benz keys








MBZ mate...two things here...

1. Please introduce yourself here : Introduce Yourself (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php/2-Introduce-Yourself)

2. Do not attempt to advertise here...


Thank you...

[makp619]

Mark "Steriling Motorsport" is waiting for his software. Scott is waiting for your call (small world)!
Ray "The Wolf" its been a minute. Your pic threw me off. I will have "J" take care of that ASAP like tomorrow.

[MBZmechanic]

Hey Guys, Sorry I'm new to forums. No it is not my tool, I just have become friends with Roy and have taken the time to show him around my area. I did offer to help him so that is where the 'We" came in . Sorry for any confusion.

I just bought the tool from him 2 months ago and been learning all the options

[drivesure]

is anyone at the elf convention - i received this email with regards to bga key solutions from mbe - is this true.

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Dear Sir,

we started selling BGA solution this weekend, during ELF convention

With best regards


NO EMAIL ADDYS PLEASE

[dijo]

Any news from Noimmo, any update...
or only promises...?

[techterr]

Noimmo is working on solution for bga... I have seen it work at just cars in florida.. It is an online service. you have to purchase tokens and you have to by the new hardware. At just cars they were talking about the server being online soon.. But it takes money and time to get the servers and bandwidth up and running... As for the older Mercs, there has been no updates to any of those...

[techterr]

I know a locksmith who knows the MBE staff personally, he actually flew out to them for training and has used there tool for years. According to him there was supposed to be a new update released then the person that runs things over there died suddenly. After that everything stopped. This is not a rumor.

Thats all I know, but I was also told that they were supposed to have a booth at JUST CARS convention in Florida this weekend and were going to display new tool. Maybe a member here attended and can shed more light. www.justcars.us (http://www.justcars.us)

I don't think that anyone from MBE passed on, I think it was the US distibutors head guy who passed on... The US distributor is still selling MBE, and now that MBE products are made in US, they can carry the made in USA sticker...
MBE did show a little of there new stuff.. The VP, Shrek was there giving a class where one guy from the US showed the older stuff and Shrek showed the new system and how it works... Not sure if they have the server up and online yet... From what I hear there will be no updates to the older system... Still alot of pulling EIS's and soldering... I can tell you that the MBE guys were amazed at all the stuff in the way of the EIS's here in the states.. In Europe they don't have the same crash bars and knee bolsters that the US cars have...

[Fallen]

Any news from Noimmo, any update... or only promises...?

Not even any promises these days.
This project is dead, has been for almost 2 years now.

[dijo]

its not easy to choice tool with quality and future about updates... :banghead:

[Fallen]

its not easy to choice tool with quality and future about updates... :banghead:

Safest bet is VVDI BGA, constant update and the developer is in DK actually answering our question and letting us know about future stuff.

[MBZmechanic]

Diagspeed ..... Just saying this tool is usually the first for finding solutions . No tokens, free updates..... faster than other tools...... What do you guys think? I have heard from alot of people with the "Simon Tough" MBE VVDI all look into the Diagspeed as a better solution. Roy is also working on 9s12 reading password thru the IR, that alone with save TONs of time from having to remove them and EEPROM. It seems the cars that need EEPROM work on Mercedes are always the toughest to get to.

[Frankcar]

noimmo yet not have update for making key BGA ?

[daniersms]

Yes this is bad it is almost a year since the last promise:banghead::banghead:

[autoTkey]

So, it finally happened! But what are they hoping for with those price?!
http://mbkeyprog.com/products/bga-solution/

[rivalryan]

€200 to save you soldering on 1 wire! bargain!

[Eskerra]

I dont know, where to begin, but.....

No a single word to old existing clients ??
Clients who bought their solution from the beginning, and were promised with very next update (which finally took 2 ears and a half) ??
Clients who had to buy other solutions, to offer services to his clients, as promised updates never came !
Clients who have almost all that hardware that is shown in there (apart from little new adapters, and of course new software)
Every business runs its own policy, thats right, but some policys, not taking in mind all your existing clients, whom you promised the moon, those policys will take you to......
I really miss from MBE, dont know if maybe they have already thoght about it, but really miss an offer, a word, a deal, or whatever for all their frustrated existing clients.

How do you see it guys?

Regards

[autoTkey]

...(which finally took 2 ears and a half) ...
Oh, you really gave them your ears? And who did you cut the last half from?! :coffin:

[jacostanzo]

Almost 3 year for this sh1t??? so many tools much cheaper and without remove anything.... lol