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Jan1980
11th August, 2015, 07:31 PM
Hi. I repaired a car with faulty EIS. Car runs great, everything ok !! :-)

But i?ve got some problems with key calculation and i want to tell you my experience. Original EIS from car is 2085450108. Original keys are big motorola with .011 pcb and HC05E6 .011.
Internal processor of EIS is damaged. I haven?t these 0d69j in stock. So, i bought an EIS with exactly the same partnumber without keys on junkyard. I wanted to use the two original keys. I desoldered the external mcu on new EIS and calculate keys by SKC (newest version with .011). After write dumps on keys and soldering i took the first key to to EIS. Red LED on key is on for 5 seconds, then, i can turn the key. The same with the other key. I?ve read both keys with IR reader from AK500. It says NEW. This means, the keys are not sync with EIS. Normally, it should say "used".

I had two big motorola .051 in stock. So, i wrote the .051 key dumps to them, and now, it works perfectly !!!!

SKC is really a very very very good tool ! I love it ! But with .011 keys it doesn?t work !

The lesson is clear: Don?t waste your time with .011 keys !! Use .051 keys !!!


If it helps, please press "thanks-button" !!


Jan


EDIT: Now, i heard, if i want to use .011 keys, i should reverse pass and id ?! Nobody tells me before.. How can i do that exactly ? In keydumps ? thx

obdsystems
11th August, 2015, 09:38 PM
yeah tell us how to do reverse pass!
bet its on this forum somewhere

cheers for sharing experence

mihaiservice
11th August, 2015, 10:27 PM
yeah tell us how to do reverse pass!
bet its on this forum somewhere

cheers for sharing experence

Hi
just reverse...like in mirror only the pass from dump
allmost old tool for eis/ezs it generate dump for key in "mirror",becouse someone wants to have some headeach
also chinese AK400 or 500 it use this "optione"




Mike

Jan1980
11th August, 2015, 10:57 PM
How can i do that exactly ? Calculate key dumps by skc, then open keydump and reverse the pass ?

smokey08
12th August, 2015, 12:29 AM
I have found it posted by smayer, here is the link (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/373549-How-to-create-11-keys-for-Mercedes).

Jan1980
16th August, 2015, 07:33 PM
Thank you smokey08 !

So, it works ! I?ve tested EIS with FVDI on bench. I made 2 keys for this EIS. In "actual values" can i see key 6 and 7. I can turn both keys directly. But, the red LED on both keys is on for few seconds. If i test the EIS with inductive test plate. The red light on key is on if the led on test plate is on. If inductive LED is off, key LED is also off.. And, when i test the key on AK500 IR reader, it writes "unused". There should be "used" That means, the key is not authorized...

Do you have an idea ?

autodigitec
16th August, 2015, 08:08 PM
This last post is about trying to add 011 key on w210 eis?
Are you using a proper ESL/emulator?

Jan1980
16th August, 2015, 08:15 PM
I am using a homemade wiring with original ESL in this case. But i think, i found the reason. I teached in the keys 5 and 6. In 4,5,6 and 7 have hash errors in the second line from skc. Tomorrow, i?ll soldering both mcu?s and i?ll repair the hash errors and i?ll set the EIS to "REPLACE". Then i?ll teach in both keys again as key 1 and 2. I?ll give feedback..

paul_12345
17th August, 2015, 12:22 AM
done a program to convert 21 files to 11 from smayer's info

just drag the 21 file onto the form and it will create a new file yourfilename + ".11"

326784

Jan1980
17th August, 2015, 09:25 PM
Today, i soldered the processors and repaired the hash errors. After teach in the keys, it was exactly the same ! If i take the key to the EIS, i can turn key directly, but the red LED is on for a while.

I was looking for a solution for a few hours.. I worked exactly with smayer?s procedure guide. Take a look to point 6 from this guide. DON?T USE 04 FC 00 !!! USE 14 EC 00 !!! This is the final solution to
reuse .011 keys !!!

Now, it works perfectly !!


If it helps, please press THX button !!