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pcbox
17th August, 2015, 07:25 PM
Egr off and one problem if someone have explanation.

After I unlock eeprom 25640 I get one problem... i tried with ori eeprom file, but the same.

If I want to start the car, car does not start first time but in second attempt... This is everytime when I try... I also noticed that engine rpm are higher: 1150-1200...

This are dtc read with VCDS:



Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 GL HW: 03L 906 023 A
Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 5810
Software Coding: 00114034032401080000
Work Shop Code: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL 001006 (VW46)
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL.rod
VCID: 76E3E5D1C9D63F8E7C-8022
2 Faults Found:


6110 - Crankshaft Position Sensor (G28)
P0335 00 [167] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188059 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 00:53:11


10449 - Starter Will Not Turn
P3054 00 [167] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188059 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 00:53:11




Readiness: 1010 0000


Can someone remove the egr from file. And if someone know what should be problem?

ProCarTuning
17th August, 2015, 07:44 PM
Did you scanned car before opening ecu? Check ecu pins also

bugarcek
17th August, 2015, 07:50 PM
This can not be problem with ecu...

ProCarTuning
17th August, 2015, 07:58 PM
What tools did you used for unlocking?

pcbox
17th August, 2015, 08:07 PM
There was no fault on ecu except egr... But I done 6 this ecus without problem and i open it realy carefuly

Minipro eeprom programmer and PcrUnlocker program.

Here is the ori and ulocked file

ProCarTuning
17th August, 2015, 08:11 PM
Did you used minipro and pcrunlocker for all 6 ecus? Did you take car for a test? Is all runing good?

pcbox
17th August, 2015, 08:19 PM
Yes. I take car for a test and everything seems ok. Except rpm increased and esp light (In abs chanell I get error (Check engine dtcs),.. I did not touch the flash... I should do egr off, but now I have to solve this problem first. Is there any way of diasabling start stop system in flash and removing this dtcs?

Thank you

mihaiservice
17th August, 2015, 08:27 PM
Hi
someone will disable dtc about G28 for sure,but in the future if G28 will dead or it have other kind of trouble from wiring ...can you tell as how will start that engine ?

pcbox
17th August, 2015, 08:31 PM
I always check engine rpm in parametres... I just wanna try,..

mihaiservice
17th August, 2015, 08:50 PM
with cars from customers you cant try some kind of "magic",better are to check that plug/wiring from ecu maybe it have broken one pin when you have replug ecu in car
or that G28 are broken or damage by flywheel

CustomCars
17th August, 2015, 09:36 PM
Mihai can have right, better if you check ecu pins and clean connectors
Epprom can't do that's problem, really ! Can forget about it.

pcbox
17th August, 2015, 09:55 PM
I know that is right... I will check wires and conectors tomorow... But I was realy desperated and you know, I just wanna fix it in easy (not right) way...

bobolin4o
18th August, 2015, 06:18 AM
2 Faults Found:


6110 - Crankshaft Position Sensor (G28)
P0335 00 [167] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188059 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 00:53:11


10449 - Starter Will Not Turn
P3054 00 [167] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188059 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 00:53:11


Why the date is not proper?

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 06:23 AM
I do not know. I noticed this more times... This is read by genuine vcds cable, not clone.

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 08:51 AM
Tuesday,18,August,2015,09:50:02:04354
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.0 Running on Windows 7 x86
www.Ross-Tech.com


Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3C0-614-109-C4.clb
Control Module Part Number: 3C0 614 109 AK HW: 3C0 614 109 AK
Component and/or Version: J104 C4 440 V2 0027
Software Coding: 0033263
Work Shop Code: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 67DDB895567CD606F7-8032
1 Fault Found:


01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 171
Mileage: 188074 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 14:35:51


Freeze Frame:
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Hex Value: 0x0000
Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
Voltage: 14.25 V
Bin. Bits: 00011111
Count: 163
Hex Value: 0x0000

I also have this error in abs unit... If start the car, eso light is on, and I can only remove light for one second if I erase fault.

mihaiservice
18th August, 2015, 09:21 AM
Hi
this message are from drivertrain CAN BUS,dont lose your time with ABS/ESP also if you will erase dtc from ecu that ESP lamp will ON....try to find the problem on engine compartiment
try to disconect sensor from camshaft,if something went wrong on camshaft sensor will see a different error on ecu
some engine it start also without camshaft sensor,just try to start the engine for more than 5-6 seconds and than check again dtc
also make the same test with crankshaft sensor,some ecu can use rpm value from camshaft to start the engine
all the time please check if dtc 6110-Crankshaft position sensor are gone from ecu and must store new dtc

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 10:30 AM
Tuesday,18,August,2015,11:29:14:04354
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.0 Running on Windows XP x86
www.Ross-Tech.com


Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 GL HW: 03L 906 023 A
Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 5810
Software Coding: 00114034032401080000
Work Shop Code: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL 001006 (VW46)
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL.rod
VCID: 76E3E5D1C9D63F8E7C-8022
1 Fault Found:


10449 - Starter Will Not Turn
P3054 00 [165] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188074 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 16:15:24




Readiness: 1010 0000


I disconnected camshaft (upper sensor) Now car does not start and I get upper error.

bugarcek
18th August, 2015, 11:04 AM
Did you try changing the crankshaft sensor?

mihaiservice
18th August, 2015, 11:07 AM
Hi
something are wrong on wiring,if you have disconected camshaft sensor can not receive dtc from starter
replug camshaft and disconect crankshaft,erase dtc from ecu and check again wich one are stored

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 11:15 AM
If I disconnect crankshaft sensor I get this error

But car starts

Tuesday,18,August,2015,12:03:48:04354
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.0 Running on Windows XP x86
www.Ross-Tech.com (http://www.ross-tech.com/)


Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 GL HW: 03L 906 023 A
Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 5810
Software Coding: 00114034032401080000
Work Shop Code: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL 001006 (VW46)
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL.rod
VCID: 76E3E5D1C9D63F8E7C-8022
3 Faults Found:


6110 - Crankshaft Position Sensor (G28)
P0335 00 [167] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 188074 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 16:48:04


10449 - Starter Will Not Turn
P3054 00 [167] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188074 km
Date: 2063.14.08
Time: 16:48:02

mihaiservice
18th August, 2015, 01:38 PM
crankshaft sensor or flywheel damage it not have any problem on wiring!

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 04:25 PM
Is any way that eeprom is coruppted? Because all wiring connected to this sensor is ok... And problem accourd when I was unlocking eeprom, car was 100 % except egr before that.

Thanks, BR

mihaiservice
18th August, 2015, 04:31 PM
Do you have VacPc ?

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 04:44 PM
No. Only vcds but genuine

mihaiservice
18th August, 2015, 04:55 PM
Ask your friends,maybe someone will help you with VasPc,i will restore eep contempt


Mike

pcbox
18th August, 2015, 05:55 PM
I do not know noone with vas.... Does anyone have any pictures taken from this ecu... If I maybe desolder any resistor or anything, when I was desoldering eeprom...


Thanks

pcbox
19th August, 2015, 08:43 AM
I have one used pcr 2.1 with same hardware numbers... But different software. How can I try ecu In this car. Is there any way of cloning the ecu?

I also noticed that ecu serial number are erased. So problem could be in eeprom. Is there any way of repairing the eeprom without this VAS? It must be some other way

mihaiservice
19th August, 2015, 09:08 AM
Hi
read both ecu if are the same label,flash and eep
upload here...

pcbox
19th August, 2015, 09:43 AM
Here are both files

mihaiservice
19th August, 2015, 10:06 AM
i have ask you if both ecu are with the same label !
original ecu 03L 906 023GL
second ecu 03L 906 023B
also board are different ....

pcbox
20th August, 2015, 09:28 AM
Hello... Here is my ecu picture, please tell me which numbers must I look at. Which are important?

ruscic
20th August, 2015, 06:54 PM
Siemens ecus start without g28. Not like bosch. Probably ecu damage while opening. I heard for this before...

pcbox
20th August, 2015, 08:58 PM
Tomorow I will get 100% the same ecu with same numbers... What I need to clone it? Which files I need to post?

BR

pcbox
26th August, 2015, 08:47 AM
Hello, I get the othe recu with same numbers... We recoded it at the dealer. But problem is totaly the same, so the fault is not in the ecu. We also change the whole starter and crankshaft and camshaft sensor. I will get crazy, what should I also check..

Wednesday,26,August,2015,09:36:14:04354
VCDS Version: Release 15.7.0 Running on Windows 7 x86
www.Ross-Tech.com (http://www.ross-tech.com/)


Address 01: Engine Labels: 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
Control Module Part Number: 03L 906 023 GL HW: 03L 906 023 A
Component and/or Version: 1,6l R4 CR td H23 7827
Software Coding: 00114016032401080000
Work Shop Code: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL 003007 (VW46)
ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023GL.rod
VCID: 76E3E5D1C9D63F8E7C-8022
2 Faults Found:




6110 - Crankshaft Position Sensor (G28)
P0335 00 [167] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188108 km
Date: 2063.14.16
Time: 14:23:36


10449 - Starter Will Not Turn
P3054 00 [167] - Jammed or Electrical Malfunction
MIL ON - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 188108 km
Date: 2063.14.16
Time: 14:23:36




Readiness: 1110 1000

2xded
26th August, 2015, 01:42 PM
Did you try сrank hands, not a starter?

pcbox
26th August, 2015, 02:48 PM
What did you mean with this? Please explain

2xded
27th August, 2015, 05:18 PM
Can you crank engine by hand ? It is not jammed?
Sorry my english :(

ludbe
28th August, 2015, 09:09 AM
maybe destroyed flywheel

pcbox
29th August, 2015, 07:46 AM
Flywheel is ok... We removed the gearbox and checked everything connected with start. (crankshaft sensor...)

pcbox
29th August, 2015, 02:10 PM
Can someone please make me Full EGR off + limp mode off... Ori file attached

boomeer
29th August, 2015, 07:14 PM
That car manual or automatic transmission?

pcbox
29th August, 2015, 07:16 PM
Manual (5)

ruscic
30th August, 2015, 02:38 AM
Why egr off? Car starts?

pcbox
30th August, 2015, 06:11 AM
Car start, but it is in limp mode. I just wanna try if the car will go ok with egr off.

Thanks

korrni
17th January, 2017, 05:11 PM
How did it end? Did you solve the problem?

brad2192
19th January, 2020, 08:04 PM
Awesome, can't wait to yrt it out thank you