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H2Deetoo
27th September, 2015, 05:25 PM
Hi guys,


I was asked to do a cluster upgrade in a Golf 5, and the current cluster is:
1K0 920 864 B VN4 Visteon
SW 3905
HW 010

Can I easily extract all needed immo data from eeprom? If so using which tool?
Or do I need special tools to unlock it using OBD ?
(Vagtacho doesn't support this cluster it seems...)


Regards,
H2Deetoo

autofan1965
27th September, 2015, 05:27 PM
All data are in eeprom(strong encrypted), access via obd2 dont need any preparation. Read memory and post here.

rocko
27th September, 2015, 07:12 PM
Carprog can do this

honingkoning
27th September, 2015, 07:12 PM
Hi guys,


I was asked to do a cluster upgrade in a Golf 5, and the current cluster is:
1K0 920 864 B VN4 Visteon
SW 3905
HW 010

Can I easily extract all needed immo data from eeprom? If so using which tool?
Or do I need special tools to unlock it using OBD ?
(Vagtacho doesn't support this cluster it seems...)


Regards,
H2Deetoo

I think smok immo tool can do this.

Wbr Adam.

H2Deetoo
28th September, 2015, 08:43 AM
I looked at Codecard Visteon tools.
They seem OK, and show CS and PIN, but no MAC data and no powerclass info.
So how to convert to NEC ?

When I get access to the cluster I will read eeprom and post here. Unfortunately customer is 150 km away :-/


Regards,
H2Deetoo

rocko
28th September, 2015, 08:51 AM
What is your currently dash and what exact do you want to do????

H2Deetoo
28th September, 2015, 09:00 AM
The current dash (Visteon) you can see in my initial posting.
I need to extract all immo data (CS,PIN,MAC,powerclass) so that I can put it in a NEC color cluster.

At the moment I don't have any tool that supports Visteon 95320.
So I am looking to see what tools support Visteon, or perhaps one of the board members can extract the immo data from eeprom (not flash) dump, if that is possible at all.


Regards,
H2Deetoo

rocko
28th September, 2015, 09:17 AM
Ok
its little bit complicated
you have to prepare dash dump from ecu dump by little sofware from codecard and write
it back via obd online
than you have to make new keys also
its hard job
carprog (not clone) and avdi can do this
regards

autofan1965
28th September, 2015, 09:43 AM
The current dash (Visteon) you can see in my initial posting.
I need to extract all immo data (CS,PIN,MAC,powerclass) so that I can put it in a NEC color cluster.

At the moment I don't have any tool that supports Visteon 95320.
So I am looking to see what tools support Visteon, or perhaps one of the board members can extract the immo data from eeprom (not flash) dump, if that is possible at all.


Regards,
H2Deetoo


You want be able transfer this data to NEC without adaptation as Visteon dont use ECU MAC, it has only one MAC(immo) stored. Powerclass is simple to determine(contact me on PM).

H2Deetoo
28th September, 2015, 11:13 AM
I can write IMMO data to NEC clusters, and learn new keys.
I just need to know 2 things:
1) How to extract the available immo data from Visteon clusters. Can it be extracted from eeprom only?
2) How to convert Visteon immo data to NEC


Thanks for helping,
H2Deetoo

potatodog
28th September, 2015, 11:33 AM
1) By OBD AVDI, MDC.... By Eeprom codecard
2) same way as VDO micronas

You can also use immo-data from ECU

H2Deetoo
28th September, 2015, 12:19 PM
2) How to convert Visteon immo data to NEC -> same way as VDO micronas
Yes but how to deal with the missing data like MAC, powerclass etc.?

>You can also use immo-data from ECU
Yes I understand, but that's a whole new story for me :-/


Thanks,
H2Deetoo

H2Deetoo
28th September, 2015, 07:48 PM
Hi guys, did some reading and found these procedures from Ross-tech:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_III_Immobilizer_Swapping_(Instrument_C luster)
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Immobilizer_IV_Immobilizer_Swapping_(Instrument_Cl uster)

I'm not sure if the engine ecu uses immo III or IV but the idea is the same; I just need both PIN's (from new and old cluster) and then I can adapt new cluster to match engine ecu immo data. This would mean that VIN, MAC etc. are transfered from engine ecu to new cluster.

Can these procedures be used with NEC color clusters?
(Can I use these procedures in my situation?)


Thanks,
H2Deetoo

autofan1965
28th September, 2015, 08:11 PM
It cant be. On Immo with challenge only odis, smok uhds, avdi, vvdi.

H2Deetoo
2nd October, 2015, 12:23 PM
Okay, understood.
I now know ECU is EDC16U34, which means I can extract immo data from the 95320 eeprom.
What is cheapest tool to read this eeprom using OBD ?


Rgs H2Deetoo

aposig
2nd October, 2015, 12:48 PM
what tools a you have ?

H2Deetoo
2nd October, 2015, 11:31 PM
I wrote my own tools for NEC. And I have Galletto v54 clone.


Rgs H2Deetoo

H2Deetoo
8th October, 2015, 08:22 AM
autofan1965 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/86348-autofan1965) , please clear your inbox :)