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DashProg
14th October, 2015, 03:59 PM
Great News! VVDI company solved MB bga key online calculation.
MB key programmer by VVDI will be available in 1 month.
Guess what is more exciting?
Online calculation for FREE!:party:
336001

yugo45
14th October, 2015, 04:05 PM
Nice news , let hope it will work good.

DashProg
14th October, 2015, 04:13 PM
Nice news , let hope it will work good.

I hope so.
It's a good company with the best staff they give also good support specially @Samic & @gesily

Siham
14th October, 2015, 04:24 PM
Of course good company ,hope also they will make pass read for nec ezs fsb3 and also fix all the fonctions for key programming as Tango.

autofan1965
14th October, 2015, 05:53 PM
Maybe better will be make old customer happy as introduce next new things. Too much at once=abritus=not possible to do everything good.

insomnia2009
14th October, 2015, 07:00 PM
nice one glad i took the plunge on this vvdi 2

philipcoin
14th October, 2015, 07:59 PM
nice one
lets hope it works good
and the cost will be ok.

Samic
15th October, 2015, 04:07 AM
Great News! VVDI company solved MB bga key online calculation.
MB key programmer by VVDI will be available in 1 month.
Guess what is more exciting?
Online calculation for FREE!:party:
336001


Yes,that's ture.now the online calculate ok,and will add more function,maybe more than 1 month.

exSPEEDyTOR
15th October, 2015, 03:32 PM
Hi, Where can I find more information about it. Thank you

DashProg
15th October, 2015, 03:44 PM
Hi, Where can I find more information about it. Thank you
If will get new info we will post it here mate maybe more than 1 month it will be out

DashProg
15th October, 2015, 03:46 PM
Hi, Where can I find more information about it. Thank you

You must go here http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/forumdisplay.php/2-Introduce-Yourself it's necessary also read the rules mate

aassfour
15th October, 2015, 03:56 PM
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uchtool
15th October, 2015, 04:24 PM
not good for us, we spent a big money to get good tools for mercedes, else this work will be end.

paul_12345
15th October, 2015, 05:02 PM
who said they was going to sell it cheap? probably will be cheap compared with some of current MB ir reading tools now, but you guys that paid big money for these tools always knew there could be a clone or a chinese cheaper tool before too long.

p1et
15th October, 2015, 07:36 PM
not good for us, we spent a big money to get good tools for mercedes, else this work will be end.

Hmm, what about for ex. electronic key cutting machines? People spent huge amount of money when they were introduced and now such machines are available for peanuts and everyone does lost keys situation... Simillar situation here. You guys were able to do the luxury benz job and now it's starting to be a common. It was only matter of time when some cheaper solution (like this) will come out, although it won't be CHEAP for sure.

obdsystems
15th October, 2015, 07:55 PM
yes, 2 edge sword - and on a public forum.

Please make it expensive for us to buy!!! too cheap and every jo will be busy :goodnight:

dustin2014
15th October, 2015, 09:47 PM
who said they was going to sell it cheap? probably will be cheap compared with some of current MB ir reading tools now, but you guys that paid big money for these tools always knew there could be a clone or a chinese cheaper tool before too long.
Heard its going to be around 1200USD.

ninja123
15th October, 2015, 10:00 PM
If they put another zero on the end, will that be better?

Its called progression, its happened to every business, and will never stop.

ninja

Fallen
15th October, 2015, 10:12 PM
That makes it very interesting for all the other merc developers like MBE who are making their big announcement this weekend at the trade show.
It could be very hard to sell something for 5k when a 1k option looms in the very near distance.

On that point, the MB developers must be sharing their knowledge with each other or how else do you explain all the big developers releasing the same updates at the same time?

paul_12345
15th October, 2015, 10:24 PM
That makes it very interesting for all the other merc developers like MBE who are making their big announcement this weekend at the trade show.
It could be very hard to sell something for 5k when a 1k option looms in the very near distance.

On that point, the MB developers must be sharing their knowledge with each other or how else do you explain all the big developers releasing the same updates at the same time?

wouldn't be surprised if theres 1 engineer selling to all the companies

autodigitec
16th October, 2015, 12:03 AM
Well, I just want to say that I was not expecting this and that it was a great strategy to post this before IKS.

paul_12345
16th October, 2015, 12:09 AM
and there is 1 major problem also.. online calculation with xhorse servers!!

diagprog7
16th October, 2015, 06:49 AM
This might be a joke, not really.

DashProg
17th October, 2015, 01:32 PM
Heard its going to be around 1200USD.

Please mates I started this thread to discuss about this new tool if someone is interesting about the price so he can directly contact Xhorse company's seller (wayne Guo)
after one month or more than.......
no need to someone be banned here

Respect the rules please

The main important here is to discuss about what's working, what's not working get support from Xhorse Company's Tech, to get news about this tool, whatever this company have a good reputation also a good support, so respect please.

Thank you

Respect is very important

All my respects to every one

autodigitec
17th October, 2015, 06:40 PM
Please mates I started this thread to discuss about this new tool if someone is interesting about the price so he can directly contact Xhorse company's seller (wayne Guo)
after one month or more than.......
no need to someone be banned here

Respect the rules please

The main important here is to discuss about what's working, what's not working get support from Xhorse Company's Tech, to get news about this tool, whatever this company have a good reputation also a good support, so respect please.

Thank you

Respect is very important

All my respects to every one

So basically you post something here 1 month or more before we can post or know anything at all about it lol

DashProg
17th October, 2015, 07:12 PM
So basically you post something here 1 month or more before we can post or know anything at all about it lol
I created this thread so that we can know anything about this tool
Don't worry pal
as soon as possible we will have information about this tool


Takes a hot herbal tea and waits pal............................................... ....................:roflmao:

mcgustoo
2nd November, 2015, 08:48 PM
I still wait for MB nec bga key solution i have new keys in workshop so i need to use it.......

thebigk
2nd November, 2015, 09:03 PM
can you just add a suibrscription to your VVDI2 or need to buy a new tool? Any guess on price?

DashProg
2nd November, 2015, 09:10 PM
can you just add a suibrscription to your VVDI2 or need to buy a new tool? Any guess on price?
No you can't mate
You must buy the hardware

Regarding the price please no need to discuss about here
Read the rules mate
If you want check the price directly contact xhorse seller
Best of luck

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thebigk
3rd November, 2015, 02:39 AM
I was looking at AK500+.... should I wait for this one, or purchase AK? :)

DashProg
3rd November, 2015, 06:46 AM
I was looking at AK500+.... should I wait for this one, or purchase AK? :)
This is up to you mate [emoji4]

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aassfour
3rd November, 2015, 08:07 AM
I was looking at AK500+.... should I wait for this one, or purchase AK? :)

those 2 tools in my opinion are not related or can not be compared between each others,
Read more about BENZ

thebigk
3rd November, 2015, 09:18 AM
those 2 tools in my opinion are not related or can not be compared between each others,
Read more about BENZ
Perhaps I wrongfully assumed that even though it covers BGA, it will cover more than that?

lpf01
15th November, 2015, 09:22 PM
Is there anything news about this tool??
Im really interested in it :)

DashProg
16th November, 2015, 05:58 AM
I hope as soon as possible we can get it from xhorse company

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H.Wessel
16th November, 2015, 10:35 AM
hi

Tool still on development, at the moment only pictures from the proto-device, looking similar to vvdiprog with ir planned.
We will have to wait some time.

Best regards
H.W

lpf01
17th November, 2015, 03:35 PM
will this tool renew the bga keys to reuse them?

Samic
18th November, 2015, 03:10 AM
will this tool renew the bga keys to reuse them?

currently support bga password calculate function,cannot support renew and reuse them.

diagprog7
18th November, 2015, 04:04 PM
found password,only need 4 min

Mario3
18th November, 2015, 09:14 PM
anyone has a idea what the price for the tool will be ?

DashProg
20th November, 2015, 05:29 PM
MB Tool already come out start selling in China 342527342528342529342531

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lpf01
20th November, 2015, 05:32 PM
Something concrete about it's features?
Works only on read BGA keys, or something else ?

DashProg
20th November, 2015, 05:35 PM
Personally I didn't try it I hope Samic answer our questions soon they will start selling it

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insomnia2009
20th November, 2015, 06:49 PM
there starting to push out to many tools i have vvdi prog and vvdi 2 both have lots of work to be decent tool and they also have another key programmer coming out

rob h
20th November, 2015, 10:41 PM
Did you encounter much problems yourself with the vvdi2? I ordered one, without BMW.

About the MB tool, it would be nice if Samic could post the software of this tool.
there starting to push out to many tools i have vvdi prog and vvdi 2 both have lots of work to be decent tool and they also have another key programmer coming out

autodigitec
21st November, 2015, 01:56 AM
According to a reseller, 1500$ no extra payment for bga password read. No idea what else it does..

DashProg
21st November, 2015, 07:40 AM
According to a reseller, 1500$ no extra payment for bga password read. No idea what else it does..
Mate please just we discuss about the tool. Technical support if someone want the price directly discuss with Xhorse seller.
I don't want to someone be ban here

All my respects

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lpf01
21st November, 2015, 02:38 PM
Im just before restocking sold MB keys, will be happy if it can write the china made rewriteable MB keys, because with the one time programmable sometimes fail...

H.Wessel
23rd November, 2015, 08:57 AM
hi

Technical details as far as I know:

Model support IR/OBD:

W164, W164 2009+
A166, W197,W212, W218, A246
A169, W209, W211
W172, W204, A207
W203
W204, W207, W212 only by dump
W209 only by dump
W210
W215, W220
W230
W216
W221
W906

Keys version supported:

v03, v06, v08
v05, v07, v09
v59,v61

Two adapters, one for versions 28, 35, 40, 51, 57. Another one for version 59.

Claim to calculate W221 password in 3 minutes.

Best regards
H.W

labusas
23rd November, 2015, 01:50 PM
W204, W207, W212 only by dump>>>> only by dump???
dump of what? one can only get an IR EZS dump on this car, not EZS NEC processor or BGA key processor.
Looks more like a NEC tool not BGA

H.Wessel
23rd November, 2015, 02:34 PM
W204, W207, W212 only by dump>>>> only by dump???
dump of what? one can only get an IR EZS dump on this car, not EZS NEC processor or BGA key processor.
Looks more like a NEC tool not BGA

hi

unafortunaly my knowledge of chineese is limited so I can?t tell you the chineese translate of the buton :D

this is just some details I have seen, it could be wrong offcourse, since I don?t own the tool to test myself

best regards
H.W

khalilo_de
26th November, 2015, 10:49 PM
Price vvdi2 mb is 2150 usd

Mario3
27th November, 2015, 09:17 AM
Price vvdi2 mb is 2150 usd
that has nothing to do with this topic and the tool we are here talking about, Its a new unrelased tool that should be able to read the pass of a benz BGA key, wich is nowadays pretty expensive.

diagprog7
29th November, 2015, 02:24 PM
Will support more features, including key generation, infrared reading keys, read and write NEC chip, OBD, etc., will add more new features.

labusas
29th November, 2015, 09:25 PM
We only care about BGA key password retrieval, nothing else please.

philipcoin
29th November, 2015, 11:33 PM
watch video of the tool add key seems great

p1et
29th November, 2015, 11:46 PM
watch video of the tool add key seems great

Where is the video? Cannot find on youtube.

philipcoin
30th November, 2015, 12:58 AM
Where is the video? Cannot find on youtube

link for video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTA9mI74Zo&feature=youtu.be

paul_12345
30th November, 2015, 02:58 AM
they want to use dongles for calculating if possible as I certainly wouldn't trust their server how many times are you going to go to a job and be let down.

DashProg
30th November, 2015, 06:21 PM
344201344202344203344204344205some pictures for vvdi MB programmer

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salamandra
30th November, 2015, 06:51 PM
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Siham
30th November, 2015, 07:07 PM
Good news I also follow some beta tester of Xhorse on Facebook ,it seam a good tool.
But I' little confused, what is the fonctions of this tool if not calculating pass for BGA keys?
What he do for other MB models ? Read pass from rom 51/57? renew ezs or elv?does he unblock ELV with fatal AA?
Please give us more details.

Best Regards. :)

uchtool
30th November, 2015, 09:37 PM
hello
I think each pass for bga would be not free, 35 usd

Samic
1st December, 2015, 07:03 AM
Good news I also follow some beta tester of Xhorse on Facebook ,it seam a good tool.
But I' little confused, what is the fonctions of this tool if not calculating pass for BGA keys?
What he do for other MB models ? Read pass from rom 51/57? renew ezs or elv?does he unblock ELV with fatal AA?
Please give us more details.
Best Regards. :)

friend,i think the following information maybe helpful about the VVDI MB tool:
1.Support BE key,read password and prepare new key via IR.
2.NEC V051,V057 support get paaword via adapter
3.All NEC keys support write and erase via adapter
4.Password calculate:support BGA keys,NEC keys(include 51,57version)etc.,work fast.
5.Support renew EIS and ELV
6.Support write EIS and ELV
7.Support online generate key file
8.Unlock ELV function will be released soon.
9.Renew other control modules function will support soon

totalkey
1st December, 2015, 07:28 AM
friend,i think the following information maybe helpful about the VVDI MB tool:
1.support BE key,read password and prepare new key via IR.
2.NEC V051,V057 support on board get paaword
3.All NEC keys support on board write and erase
4.password calculate:support BGA keys,NEC keys(include 51,57version)etc.,work fast.
5.support renew EIS and ELV
6.support write EIS and ELV
7.support online generate key file
8.unlock ELV function will be released soon.
9.Renew other control modules function will support soon
On board mean desolder chip?

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Samic
1st December, 2015, 07:33 AM
hello
I think each pass for bga would be not free, 35 usd

mate,if you have Condor XC-007 or Condor XC-Mini key cutting machine,can free for calculate once/day(one day only free calculate once).

hamzadaw2000
1st December, 2015, 07:37 AM
mate,if you have Condor XC-007 or Condor XC-Mini key cutting machine,can free for calculate once/day(one day only free calculate once).

Can read password via ir from w211 and w203 HC08 and 912 Motorola processors?
Esl w204 can do?


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Samic
1st December, 2015, 07:45 AM
this"On board"mean desolder chip?

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yes,you are right.my mistake.exactly is via adapter not on board.

emtec3
1st December, 2015, 09:20 AM
where to buy????

Mario3
1st December, 2015, 11:19 AM
Samic, any relase date ?

H.Wessel
1st December, 2015, 11:58 AM
Can read password via ir from w211 and w203 HC08 and 912 Motorola processors?
Esl w204 can do?


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yeah, I asked this to Jian and no reply. Does someone knows?

Best regards
H.W

lion0304
1st December, 2015, 12:02 PM
yeah, I asked this to Jian and no reply. Does someone knows?

Best regards
H.W

I also aked and they talk still in testing time in China. So no date to maket for the moment.

labusas
2nd December, 2015, 03:24 AM
It's just a copy of what other tools do long time ago, read/erase NEC v51/v57. BGA (w204 with BGA style (new chrome) key) is not guaranteed or documented, yet.... It's not good for many of us, locksmiths, who already invested in NEC key solution with other makers. All we need is to get password from post 2011 cars with NEC processor in EZS and new BGA style keys.
Condor is not clear about this as of yet. Let's not buy until confirmation exists.

Samic
2nd December, 2015, 03:58 AM
Can read password via ir from w211 and w203 HC08 and 912 Motorola processors?
Esl w204 can do?


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yes,of course ok.

Samic
2nd December, 2015, 06:42 AM
Samic, any relase date ?


12th,December will be available in China.

H.Wessel
2nd December, 2015, 12:12 PM
It's just a copy of what other tools do long time ago, read/erase NEC v51/v57. BGA (w204 with BGA style (new chrome) key) is not guaranteed or documented, yet.... It's not good for many of us, locksmiths, who already invested in NEC key solution with other makers. All we need is to get password from post 2011 cars with NEC processor in EZS and new BGA style keys.
Condor is not clear about this as of yet. Let's not buy until confirmation exists.

hi

yeah, Benz tools releasing same update at same time, so no need to discover the wheel again.

Price was expected to be arround 1k but now looks double, so is risky invest 2k+ without know what is supported (at last in my country),
perhaps in Germany makes no doubt having all that Mercs and Taxis arround, but not here, cover the cost of 2k+ invest is a hard and long term job since dealer key here is cheap.

Also online calculation is not good solution...well :)

We can only wait and see what happens

Best regards
H.W

hamzadaw2000
2nd December, 2015, 07:55 PM
Before Jian Min told that price less than 1200$ but now 2150$ with password calculation fees 35$ each time, more ore less will be the best solution as other devices prices more three or four times than this cost.

Brat
3rd December, 2015, 08:09 AM
Samik,can this tool make key in w204,212 if all key lost ??

znakedwrx
3rd December, 2015, 11:41 AM
I think we will have to wait some time for that to happen

autocheck
4th December, 2015, 08:06 PM
When will it be out ? Any link to where I can get more information.

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cartech
4th December, 2015, 09:44 PM
this tool is not clear now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there any one bought it?
no one tested until now.................
should wait until next times....................

p1et
4th December, 2015, 11:11 PM
this tool is not clear now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is there any one bought it?
no one tested until now.................
should wait until next times....................

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492206-VVDI-MB-BGA-TOOL?p=2654547&viewfull=1#post2654547

insomnia2009
4th December, 2015, 11:47 PM
done the same with vvdi 2 realeased it with tango functions and lots of other stuff it works 30% at the minute as tool they advertise on vw is good but thats about it

dustin2014
5th December, 2015, 01:39 AM
done the same with vvdi 2 realeased it with tango functions and lots of other stuff it works 30% at the minute as tool they advertise on vw is good but thats about it

Have to agree, ive been completely under-whelemed by it. effi much more advance than it.

diagprog7
6th December, 2015, 07:22 AM
A lot of testing and verification have been carried out in China! At the same time also in the optimization of network computing experiments, the results of the current test is 50 seconds, if the network is slow, may be calculated in 1 minutes, other functions are also in a perfect test, a product's maturity, the need for time. This computing speed will be the world's first

autocheck
6th December, 2015, 07:44 AM
Is that so , looking forward to seeing the product itself. what about the cost ?

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Mario3
6th December, 2015, 09:32 AM
If it really works, it wont be cheap...

diagprog7
6th December, 2015, 01:09 PM
If it really works, it wont be cheap...nec and BGA key password Calculation,100% work!

Mario3
6th December, 2015, 01:22 PM
nec and BGA key password Calculation,100% work!
Great, then what remains is "it wont be cheap" [emoji16]

diagprog7
6th December, 2015, 01:56 PM
Great, then what remains is "it wont be cheap" [emoji16]The price has come out, but it can not be said that the price, because it violates the rules of the altar.

autodigitec
6th December, 2015, 05:26 PM
The bga password calculation is free once a day, extra is 35 each. sounds good.

Mario3
6th December, 2015, 05:56 PM
The bga password calculation is free once a day, extra is 35 each. sounds good.
So what remains is to just wait it out till its finally availible

hamzadaw2000
6th December, 2015, 07:48 PM
Mario3 so no need to order MN022 to get password via IR for w211 and w203


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Mario3
6th December, 2015, 08:02 PM
i have mn022, but still waiting on this cause i need something that can read v51 and v57 pasword from key, almost ordered mn024+abprog but thought also to buy simon touch nec key lite (cheapest solution). But if this will make the v51 and v57 psw too, and plus BGA key there is no doubt what ill take.

austingreen
7th December, 2015, 07:26 AM
News!!!
The dealer is accepting booking.

jeccy
7th December, 2015, 07:30 AM
I have read something about it in another forum. it's more detailed in this forum ****

Mario3
7th December, 2015, 01:16 PM
BGA pass is free once a day and the next one in the same day is 35usd if you own a condor keycutter, if not every one is 35usd

oep
7th December, 2015, 10:06 PM
Any updates on BAG calculations :-]

Siham
7th December, 2015, 11:47 PM
Hope it will be out soon , but was wondering something :

-They say renew ezs/elv the one equiped with nec mcu ?
-Can this tool read pass from ezs with ezs equiped with motorolla?
-Can it generate green key?
-Get pass from EZS FBS3 ?

Thanks. :)

Samic
8th December, 2015, 10:58 AM
Hope it will be out soon , but was wondering something :

-They say renew ezs/elv the one equiped with nec mcu ?
-Can this tool read pass from ezs with ezs equiped with motorolla?
-Can it generate green key?
-Get pass from EZS FBS3 ?

Thanks. :)

support renew ezs/elv the one equiped with nec mcu,
read pass from ezs with ezs equiped with motorolla-only support CAN bus protocol EIS.
about green key:need to know whether that green key is use to enable disabled key,if so,cannot support currently.can support generate key data.
get pass from EZS FBS3,of course ok.

H.Wessel
9th December, 2015, 01:59 PM
I have read something about it in another forum. it's more detailed in this forum mhhatuo (http://mhhauto.com/Thread-Xhorse-VVDI-MB-BGA-Tool-will-come-soon).

Notice that person that write that don?t test it personaly, don?t even know what models are supported by tool,
just copy&paste from this thread, post #49: http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/492206-VVDI-MB-BGA-TOOL?p=2648409&viewfull=1#post2648409
so just publiciting some sales...

English version of the tool was told to be in process at 4 Dic, AFAIK still not released.
The result of the test came from Jian, he did upload some videos where calculation was fast but is told that uses Rusian calculator..??

I think the tool is still on development state.

Best regards
H.W

autodigitec
9th December, 2015, 03:27 PM
what about w204/w207/w212, why does it say "only by dump"?

3abas27
9th December, 2015, 09:34 PM
Yes which dump ask samic for w204 212 207,?

philipcoin
9th December, 2015, 11:39 PM
seems
VVDI MB TOOL start selling.



http://www.vipprogrammer.com/xhorse-vvdi-mb-tool-key-programmer-for-mercedesbenz-programmer-2389?zenid=9ca6d7e968264dd1c164ef56f79356e2

autoTkey
10th December, 2015, 07:25 AM
seems
VVDI MB TOOL start selling.



http://www.vipprogrammer.com/xhorse-vvdi-mb-tool-key-programmer-for-mercedesbenz-programmer-2389?zenid=9ca6d7e968264dd1c164ef56f79356e2

I don't think so. I found this line in the description on the page: "Need 5-10 days preparing goods." which for Chinese usually means at least a month :)
Well it has a specific price, though ....which is double or at least 25-30% more than it should have been.

It's strange though ...AVDI got surpassed by something that started out as an AVDI clone.

Samic
10th December, 2015, 07:37 AM
Yes which dump ask samic for w204 212 207,?

refer to following information:

Model support IR/OBD:
W164, 164 2009+
W166, 197, 212, 218, 246
W169, 209, 211
W172, 204, 207
W203, 463, 639 (K)
W202, 208, 210 (K)
W215, 220 (K)
W230 (K)
W216
W221
W639 2009+
W906

K-Line EIS's password now only support dump, other's can read via Password calculation

Keys version supported:
BE key: Read/Write/Erase via IR
v51, v57,
V28, V35, V40
v03, v06, v08 (Keyless Go)
v05, v07, v09 (Keyless Go)
v59, v61 (Keyless Go)

emtec3
10th December, 2015, 08:36 AM
anywhere isn't present on sale!!!!!!!!

diagprog7
10th December, 2015, 09:18 AM
I don't think so. I found this line in the description on the page: "Need 5-10 days preparing goods." which for Chinese usually means at least a month :)
Well it has a specific price, though ....which is double or at least 25-30% more than it should have been.

It's strange though ...AVDI got surpassed by something that started out as an AVDI clone.


today,vvdi MB TOOL START selling.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

autoTkey
10th December, 2015, 10:11 AM
Yes, ok, it's out. No need for so many exclamation marks!
Still everywhere it says factory need 10 days for "customization" ... my guess is it will take more like a month before your order is shipped.

I see there is a much lower price for the clients who already own a Condor, that's cool!

Samic
10th December, 2015, 10:26 AM
a nine-year-old child play VVDI MB Tool as a toy,this is the video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwqk1sLcE0

Locksmith Hungary
10th December, 2015, 11:00 AM
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Bmkeys
10th December, 2015, 11:31 AM
Yes, ok, it's out. No need for so many exclamation marks!
Still everywhere it says factory need 10 days for "customization" ... my guess is it will take more like a month before your order is shipped.

I see there is a much lower price for the clients who already own a Condor, that's cool!

I wonder if they will give a discount for customers who own a VVDI2

Samic
10th December, 2015, 12:08 PM
Support read password old v40 NEC key? Or only v51 and v57?

of course not only v51 and v57,also support bga key.the above list only parts of the function list.

autodigitec
10th December, 2015, 12:14 PM
of course,not only v51 and v57,also support bga key.the above list only parts of the function list.

he means by reading from v40 nec directly, not by IR.

emtec3
10th December, 2015, 01:46 PM
a nine-year-old child play VVDI MB Tool as a toy,this is the video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwqk1sLcE0


what did you want to tell these??

dijo
10th December, 2015, 02:04 PM
a nine-year-old child play VVDI MB Tool as a toy,this is the video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bwqk1sLcE0


what did you want to tell these??

They will show how simple it is to work with VVDI... :)

emtec3
10th December, 2015, 06:26 PM
They will show how simple it is to work with VVDI... :)

the main thing that it worked!!!!!

hamzadaw2000
10th December, 2015, 08:04 PM
Password reading from all Nec versions is it possible ?

PremierD
10th December, 2015, 08:06 PM
You have been a member long enough to know that this is an English speaking only forum ......:)

Brat
10th December, 2015, 09:36 PM
Tool work only if car have working key? Wath about in situacion if customer lost all keys??

Jan1980
10th December, 2015, 09:40 PM
If all keys are lost, you have to go to dealer.. No other way..

Siham
11th December, 2015, 12:19 AM
Sure ????? :)
Do not think so!!

Samic
11th December, 2015, 04:28 AM
VVDI MB TOOL OverView download link:

diagprog7
11th December, 2015, 06:28 AM
If all keys are lost, you have to go to dealer.. No other way..


is need update,will support,is need wait!

Brat
11th December, 2015, 08:29 AM
In Samic video she used working key for found pasword and add second key,in video is very clear need working key!

Siham
12th December, 2015, 04:41 AM
When all kwys lost need to get new ezs and adapt it ,or get used ezs with working key and make transfert data after renewed it.
Samic have a question , when we get a car with that do not have ezs because totally damaged or stolen what is the solution with your tool?
Also do we need to renew elv ?

Thank you. :)

Samic
12th December, 2015, 01:27 PM
VVDI MB Tool software Download Link:
(include User Manual)

philipcoin
12th December, 2015, 03:37 PM
can this tool support mb w164 2007 all key lost

keyantic
12th December, 2015, 05:18 PM
This tool can read password keyless go ?

tunertool
12th December, 2015, 08:28 PM
Again incomplete china product it seems!

Samic
13th December, 2015, 10:20 AM
VVDI MB Tool latest version V2.0.2 update:
************************************************** **********************
*** 2015-12-13
*** Require firmware V2.0.0
************************************************** **********************
===== BENZ V2.0.2 =====
1. Support prepare key file with v11 format

keyantic
13th December, 2015, 11:08 AM
This tool can read password keyless go ?

keyantic
14th December, 2015, 07:56 AM
Who will buy this device
Is it good?

autoTkey
14th December, 2015, 08:16 AM
Who will buy this device
Is it good?

You seem excited about it. How about you test it and let all the rest of us the results?
I bet many people will buy it at that price.

autoTkey
14th December, 2015, 08:26 AM
By the way - what keys does this tool uses for BGA and for non-BGA ?! No info on that, yet!

Mario3
14th December, 2015, 08:36 AM
By the way - what keys does this tool uses for BGA and for non-BGA ?! No info on that, yet!
What do you mean ? If you mean what keys can be programmed after you got the password, all programmable so all oem with nec, china be etc....

autoTkey
14th December, 2015, 09:28 AM
Yes - that's what I meant. So even BGA can be written to the cheap PRC keys(like that one http://www.uobd2.net/wholesale/oem-smart-key-for-mercedes-benz-433mhzwithout-key-shell-5319.html )?

Mario3
14th December, 2015, 12:33 PM
No you confusing terms, a OEM BGA key is unusable, only you can do with it is getting the ezs password with special calculation method. The bga key itself has nothing to do with that, same calculation can also be made with v51 and v51 keys. So its only a method to GET the pass. And new key has nothing to do either with the key you used to calculate the pass. And for new key you can use ANY key that is compatible with FBS3 system so any key can be used that is is virgin/new state.

I hope ist a bit clearer now.

Best regards

autoTkey
14th December, 2015, 12:46 PM
Got it. Thanks!

Samic
14th December, 2015, 03:03 PM
VVDI MB Tool latest version V2.0.3 update:
************************************************** *************************
2015-12-14
*** Require firmware V2.0.0
************************************************** **********************
===== BENZ V2.0.3 =====
1. Password Calculation: Read EIS under OBD mode will check car power automatically. Avoid lost data in EIS

philipcoin
14th December, 2015, 06:00 PM
vvdi mb tool

anyone have it...
and give feedback

Mracni
14th December, 2015, 06:46 PM
can this tool read/write original BGA mercedes key ??

autodigitec
15th December, 2015, 02:25 AM
can this tool read/write original BGA mercedes key ??

really... read a few posts before yours...

H.Wessel
15th December, 2015, 10:46 PM
hi

@Mario3, question, does nec keys are FBS3?, I mean, you can program them in a car using BGA keys?,
I bet yes but in doubt

Thanks!
H.W

Mario3
15th December, 2015, 11:12 PM
hi

@Mario3, question, does nec keys are FBS3?, I mean, you can program them in a car using BGA keys?,
I bet yes but in doubt

Thanks!
H.W
Sure, why not

H.Wessel
15th December, 2015, 11:16 PM
Thanks, good to know.

H.W

Mario3
16th December, 2015, 10:38 PM
Ok guys, the benz situation becomes more and more interesting... Avdi has a new update and comes more and more close to pro tools. And theLegend has relased BGA pass calculaton also.. Simon will get it also soon..

Siham
17th December, 2015, 01:53 AM
Yes but still some difference between them.
The legend ,Abrites both cannot get pass from EZS FBS3 without working key. Only for BGA !!!! EZS FBS3 are mounted in what model of mercedes?
If you have Abrites you need to contact SimonTouch for ELV calculation .
And the big question is how much it will cost BGA pass ?? The lower price at the moment is from Xhorse ,but this tool still need to be tested and totaly finished ,they are still adding fonctions , also wait to see about Bugs (xhorse I support your products but please just sell a tool when is totally finished and not partially ,customers are not beta testers :) )
Also i still did not get a car with BGA ,yet to see it.
When I started with MB keys (v51 /v57) i put many money for a tool ,now after just 2 years i do the same job and also renew and repair blocked ELV with a tool that cost less than 1500 $ , even with all keys lost but of course need new EZS.
If in future i will add more tool for MB keys for sure I will go for xhorse but not now better to wait and see if the tool worth it . :)

Ciao Mate !! :)

rrador
17th December, 2015, 05:26 AM
Yes but still some difference between them.
The legend ,Abrites both cannot get pass from EZS FBS3 without working key. Only for BGA !!!! EZS FBS3 are mounted in what model of mercedes?
If you have Abrites you need to contact SimonTouch for ELV calculation .
And the big question is how much it will cost BGA pass ?? The lower price at the moment is from Xhorse ,but this tool still need to be tested and totaly finished ,they are still adding fonctions , also wait to see about Bugs (xhorse I support your products but please just sell a tool when is totally finished and not partially ,customers are not beta testers :) )
Also i still did not get a car with BGA ,yet to see it.
When I started with MB keys (v51 /v57) i put many money for a tool ,now after just 2 years i do the same job and also renew and repair blocked ELV with a tool that cost less than 1500 $ , even with all keys lost but of course need new EZS.
If in future i will add more tool for MB keys for sure I will go for xhorse but not now better to wait and see if the tool worth it . :)

Ciao Mate !! :)

which tool is that under 1500 or are you talking about VVDI?

Siham
17th December, 2015, 05:51 PM
No its not about VVDI! :)
The legend ask for 2000$ for activation for BGA but we must have MB doctor Full and we will no need tokken !! That's a Joke !
Used their tool for 3 months and after that I sold it ,it's not a SOO GOOD tool as i thought !! :(
Hip Hip Oura for Xhorse prices !! :)

rrador
18th December, 2015, 02:32 AM
No its not about VVDI! :)
The legend ask for 2000$ for activation for BGA but we must have MB doctor Full and we will no need tokken !! That's a Joke !
Used their tool for 3 months and after that I sold it ,it's not a SOO GOOD tool as i thought !! :(
Hip Hip Oura for Xhorse prices !! :)

What didn't you like about thelegend tool? I was thinking about buying their tool. What are you using now?

jacostanzo
18th December, 2015, 05:39 PM
Yes but still some difference between them.
The legend ,Abrites both cannot get pass from EZS FBS3 without working key. Only for BGA !!!! EZS FBS3 are mounted in what model of mercedes?
If you have Abrites you need to contact SimonTouch for ELV calculation .
And the big question is how much it will cost BGA pass ?? The lower price at the moment is from Xhorse ,but this tool still need to be tested and totaly finished ,they are still adding fonctions , also wait to see about Bugs (xhorse I support your products but please just sell a tool when is totally finished and not partially ,customers are not beta testers :) )
Also i still did not get a car with BGA ,yet to see it.
When I started with MB keys (v51 /v57) i put many money for a tool ,now after just 2 years i do the same job and also renew and repair blocked ELV with a tool that cost less than 1500 $ , even with all keys lost but of course need new EZS.
If in future i will add more tool for MB keys for sure I will go for xhorse but not now better to wait and see if the tool worth it . :)

Ciao Mate !! :)

AVDI can do BGA key password calculation now???

Mario3
18th December, 2015, 08:11 PM
AVDI can do BGA key password calculation now???
No, it can not

phara0n
19th December, 2015, 07:55 AM
ive experienced many tool for this MB jobs, Simon Thelegend Diagspeed NecPro57 ... the best QUALITY/PRICE is the legend, fast in everything and 100/ 100 working device with specially a very good support.
im going to get the new BGA activation for 2000$ ive already the mbdoctor full ...
for exemble unlocked esl enc with 0xAA error is about 30 min with thelegend when others took hours ...

Mario3
20th December, 2015, 12:30 AM
Any news about shipping dates for preordered vvdi bga units ? Im still decideing what to buy, but since abrites sale ends in 3 days im still unsure if to wait or not..

insomnia2009
20th December, 2015, 01:01 AM
i have vvdi 2 and vvdi prog and condor my advice to you if you can afford abrites go for it vvdi 2 and vvdi prog need lots of work maybe some time will be really good but now i dont think so

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Siham
20th December, 2015, 01:09 AM
i have vvdi 2 and vvdi prog and condor my advice to you if you can afford abrites go for it vvdi 2 and vvdi prog need lots of work maybe some time will be really good but now i dont think so

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

Are not good in what fonctions exactly ?
Vag or BMW ?
Key programming or coding or others?
I know those tool are still not complete and still have many many many bugs! But they are working on it.
Avdi price for BCM2 is 2000 EU , with that price you can get other tool to make the job. And do not spoke about others fonctions.

Thank you Mate !

insomnia2009
20th December, 2015, 02:05 AM
Are not good in what fonctions exactly ?
Vag or BMW ?
Key programming or coding or others?
I know those tool are still not complete and still have many many many bugs! But they are working on it.
Avdi price for BCM2 is 2000 EU , with that price you can get other tool to make the job. And do not spoke about others fonctions.

Thank you Mate !

i agree with you on prices etc i was just saying if he can afford avdi would be better option, on vag there is plenty of problems on bmw i tryed once to add a key and lost sync with elv and failed to sync that was enough for me to test had to get a friend with icom to solve it for me i support xhorse 100% but think its unfair we have to test on cars they should warn us its not tested it cause serious problems and costs


i know new updates have solved sync problems just saying that was the case a few months ago

Siham
20th December, 2015, 04:05 AM
i'am 100% agree with you , we are not testers.
I'am thinking since sometime to get VVDI2 for VAG specially for 5tH immo but still not convincted in this tool and no one can give feedback about BCM2 key programming with this tool also just downloaded and reading their user manual for vag !!!! Need to read 2 times to understand what to do and the procedure to follow .
RRADOR I use noimmo now and pretty happy ,for the other reason i will not explain it in public ,sorry. :)
For the rest is a good tool .

autodigitec
22nd December, 2015, 02:36 PM
Anyone have the tool yet?

Different sellers tell me different things.. Some say without condor you have to always pay 35usd, others say you dont need condor to have 1 calc free per day.

Can samic say what's the real deal?...

diagprog7
22nd December, 2015, 03:08 PM
Anyone have the tool yet?

Different sellers tell me different things.. Some say without condor you have to always pay 35usd, others say you dont need condor to have 1 calc free per day.

Can samic say what's the real deal?...

You have a KEY CUT MACHINE XHORSE, you are free to calculate once a day, if not, every charge $35! Strong request, can not ask, how to charge the problem, which will allow us to violate the rules of the forum.

autodigitec
23rd December, 2015, 11:41 AM
Thanks, because obd2express keeps saying I get 1 free calc per day even if I dont have their key cutting machine..

Can you say exactly what comes in the package when we buy it? I was told it has this: http://i.imgur.com/OgbFbB0.png
So no other cable adapters, although previous pictures showed adapters for the newest EIS'.

autoTkey
23rd December, 2015, 05:14 PM
Still too early - first deliveries will surely be in January.

tunertool
23rd December, 2015, 07:32 PM
Please guys dont get your hopes up with this china tool... it all looks good on the packaging but will be unlikely to work on newer cars!

Nassreddine84
23rd December, 2015, 10:28 PM
Hi dashprog dear plz can u tell me how to communicate with xhorse support team i bought vvdi programmer and i donno who shell i contact i need support regarding the wiring diagram of cas4 and porsche new bcm its a little bit complicated for me with cutting and so on any website or forum u know who is samic and gesily thank u mate

Samic
24th December, 2015, 02:23 AM
Hi dashprog dear plz can u tell me how to communicate with xhorse support team i bought vvdi programmer and i donno who shell i contact i need support regarding the wiring diagram of cas4 and porsche new bcm its a little bit complicated for me with cutting and so on any website or forum u know who is samic and gesily thank u mate

friend,you can post your VVDI PROG issue on here:http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/473754-VVDI-PROG
also you can add me on skype/PM me,i will try my best to help you.

autocheck
24th December, 2015, 07:19 AM
Can we have the package list and photos of the Vvdi mb tool.

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ziyancaiirizarry
24th December, 2015, 11:17 AM
Can we have the package list and photos of the Vvdi mb tool.

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check the attachment.

Samic
25th December, 2015, 02:29 AM
Can we have the package list and photos of the Vvdi mb tool.
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refer to follow package list and photo:
1. VVDI-MB TOOL device
2. IR adaptor
3. USB cable
4. NEC adaptor 1
5. NEC adaptor 2
6. NEC adaptor base PCB
7. K Line in OBD line
8. OBD line

ziyancaiirizarry
25th December, 2015, 03:10 AM
@ Samic Any English video on MB BGA password calculation online procedure? Please

autocheck
25th December, 2015, 05:35 AM
refer to follow package list and photo:
1. VVDI-MB TOOL device
2. IR adaptor
3. USB cable
4. NEC adaptor 1
5. NEC adaptor 2
6. NEC adaptor base PCB
7. K Line in OBD line
8. OBD line
what of Esl and Eis connectors ?


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mercis
25th December, 2015, 08:40 AM
EIS/ELV Test Line for Mercedes Works Together with VVDI BGA
you can buy cable set,
120 usd
(http://www.uobd2.net/wholesale/eis-elv-test-line.html)

Frankcar
25th December, 2015, 11:05 AM
I heard from someone After scan original key for reading pass , key will Break down No think they have good info for this cars. I think this device is copy. Im not against of this device.but needs more investigation.because it does important work.
Experience prove that Chinese devices always have problem of internal circuit quality

Samic
26th December, 2015, 03:18 AM
I heard from someone After scan original key for reading pass , key will Break down No think they have good info for this cars. I think this device is copy. Im not against of this device.but needs more investigation.because it does important work.
Experience prove that Chinese devices always have problem of internal circuit quality

mate,please ensure the EIS have enough power(not less than 11voltage),will not lost data.

Siham
26th December, 2015, 03:18 AM
Samic just wondering what is the procedure that we need to do when we have all keys lost for a w204 and we got a new ezs from dealer or other ?
How to adapt it to the car and also how to edit the pass because it's at virgin state (factory state) ?
Device will automatically generate keys and also make a password ?

Thank you ! :)

emtec3
26th December, 2015, 06:59 AM
show how to make eis and elv w204 renew!!

Samic
26th December, 2015, 07:51 AM
Samic just wondering what is the procedure that we need to do when we have all keys lost for a w204 and we got a new ezs from dealer or other ?
How to adapt it to the car and also how to edit the pass because it's at virgin state (factory state) ?
Device will automatically generate keys and also make a password ?

Thank you ! :)


Currently version W204 all key lost steps:(user should buy a new EIS first)
1.Read EIS data via obd,then Save EIS data
2.adapt ESL:Read ESL data->Get Erase Password->Renew ESL
3.Change new EIS, Load EIS data(step1)->write Key Password(enter manually and at random)->Write EIS data
4.Personalize W204 ESL
5.Load EIS data(with Key Password)->Prepare Key File
6.Input new Key to device IR reader->Load Key file->write
7.Insert new Key to EIS->EIS will learn the new key->key learn success

Siham
26th December, 2015, 08:01 AM
Got you Samic , but what to do if we do not have the old ezs that have all the keys lost?
In some case we got the car with stolen ezs.
If EZS is brand new from dealer we can choose the pass , but the procedure will be also the same if we got an used ezs with working key and made renew only the password step will be different , am'i right ?

Samic
26th December, 2015, 08:59 AM
Got you Samic , but what to do if we do not have the old ezs that have all the keys lost?
In some case we got the car with stolen ezs.
If EZS is brand new from dealer we can choose the pass , but the procedure will be also the same if we got an used ezs with working key and made renew only the password step will be different , am'i right ?

i see what you mean,about without old EIS,you can get data from ESL.
you can get key hash/track from ESL,then enter EIS data,but haven't tested with this method.
later will add function then you can get data from ECU.

3abas27
27th December, 2015, 09:05 AM
Hello
if need change ESL to new one
need obligatory renew eis ?
Or need ONly write data eis to ESL and push personalize?

CarDiag84
27th December, 2015, 06:46 PM
Work with W906?

Siham
27th December, 2015, 08:36 PM
New videos : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PrHMWrXKgI&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZ5EUGT86k

Seam we will get a powerfull device !! :)

Samic
28th December, 2015, 03:25 AM
Hello
if need change ESL to new one
need obligatory renew eis ?
Or need ONly write data eis to ESL and push personalize?

such as W204 change new ESL( programming new ESL),you should renew EIS first,
click on Personalize W204 ESL,it will auto adapt with EIS.

lion0304
28th December, 2015, 04:20 AM
It seem become days after days a good tool. I'll wait a little time again before purchase it.

Siham
28th December, 2015, 04:24 AM
Why need to renew EIS ???
With other tool we do not need to that !! :(
Also I do not understand when we have a all keys lost situation and we make transfer of hasch data from old to new or reneewed ezs we have to renew also elv? with necpro,MI we do not need to renew elv if we make transfer data from old to new ,we only do that when we make a grey key to adapt Brand new EIS not renewed.
In the videos there s something i do not understand is at the moment when the guy put password its real pass or just choosed randomly?
If the ezs is not new but renewed and have working key (because we always need to have a working keys to make renew !!!) what would be the procedure ?
We just read old ezs hasch data and adapt them to the renewed ezs using the password exacted before from the working key that belong to this renewed ezs?

Thank you Samic :)

Samic
28th December, 2015, 08:21 AM
Work with W906?

yes,currently support W906,you can refer to User Manual V1.0
next version User Manual will come asap.

H.Wessel
28th December, 2015, 08:48 AM
hi Samic

could you ask the ingenier to add one free calculation at day without having xhorse cutting machine?,
I think is reasonable and will boost product sales.

If not, it?s needed to add +35$ for each key, which will make hard to lower the MBenz distributor key price here..

Thanks in advance!
H.W

lion0304
28th December, 2015, 08:54 AM
For Nec key, can us use SKC for calculation or need online and pay fees for calculation?
Thank you Samic for reply.

Samic
28th December, 2015, 09:05 AM
Why need to renew EIS ???
With other tool we do not need to that !! :(
Also I do not understand when we have a all keys lost situation and we make transfer of hasch data from old to new or reneewed ezs we have to renew also elv? with necpro,MI we do not need to renew elv if we make transfer data from old to new ,we only do that when we make a grey key to adapt Brand new EIS not renewed.
In the videos there s something i do not understand is at the moment when the guy put password its real pass or just choosed randomly?
If the ezs is not new but renewed and have working key (because we always need to have a working keys to make renew !!!) what would be the procedure ?
We just read old ezs hasch data and adapt them to the renewed ezs using the password exacted before from the working key that belong to this renewed ezs?
Thank you Samic :)

for W204 change new ESL( programming new ESL),you should renew EIS first,this is the standard method.
later we also will support "not need to renew EIS".
about all key lost,the Key Password manually at random.
"If the ezs is not new but renewed and have working key (because we always need to have a working keys to make renew !!!) what would be the procedure ?
We just read old ezs hasch data and adapt them to the renewed ezs using the password exacted before from the working key that belong to this renewed ezs?"
sorry,could you explain to me what do you wanna do?

Samic
28th December, 2015, 12:13 PM
hi Samic

could you ask the ingenier to add one free calculation at day without having xhorse cutting machine?,
I think is reasonable and will boost product sales.
If not, it?s needed to add +35$ for each key, which will make hard to lower the MBenz distributor key price here..
Thanks in advance!
H.W

currently user with condor machine can get free once/day.if not, need to pay for 35usd once.

Samic
28th December, 2015, 12:17 PM
For Nec key, can us use SKC for calculation or need online and pay fees for calculation?
Thank you Samic for reply.

only online get Key Password need to pay,other online calculation all free and very fast.

H.Wessel
28th December, 2015, 12:21 PM
currently user with condor machine can get free once/day.if not, need to pay for 35usd once.


I know, that why I am asking:

Currently in my town: 35usd+key blank (50$)+labour time is same price that on MBenz dealer.

About Condor, well, I have a cut machine already, can?t spend money on other for doing the same job....

A free 1 calculation/day for everyone will be perfect. And I think that people will buy this tool faster... I have not purchased your tool yet for that reason...

My two cents.

Best regards
H.W

acautolocksmiths
28th December, 2015, 08:41 PM
I too would purchase this tool if we got the free calculation daily without having to buy condor machine

3abas27
28th December, 2015, 11:20 PM
With all devises in market you should renew elv when all keys lost
because you should p?t new password so elv must BE renewed also
in ezs and elv not ONly Hash password also

Siham
29th December, 2015, 03:39 AM
for W204 change new ESL( programming new ESL),you should renew EIS first,this is the standard method.
later we also will support "not need to renew EIS".
about all key lost,the Key Password manually at random.
"If the ezs is not new but renewed and have working key (because we always need to have a working keys to make renew !!!) what would be the procedure ?
We just read old ezs hasch data and adapt them to the renewed ezs using the password exacted before from the working key that belong to this renewed ezs?"
sorry,could you explain to me what do you wanna do?

Hello Mate ,

What I mean is : when we read the hasch data from old EZS (w204) that have all keys lost , we type the pass randomly and after that we write those data (hasch and pass) in the Brand new EZS , right ?
So my question are :

1- What will be the procedure if instead using BRAND NEW EZS we use renewed ezs that also have a working key?

2-Can your tool renew ezs (w204) without having a working key ?

3- Are your tool able to get password from EZS FSB3 without having a working keys (EZS W166, 212, 246) ? like MI ,Diagspeed and necpro57 are able to do ?

4-Are your tool able to get password from old EIS that have motorolla like w203 w211 etc... ??

5- Can your tool repair ELV (w204) that have fatal error AA or when we need to change the internal motor (close and open elv)?

Also in your manual you say no need to desolder nec chips from keys (51 or 57 ) to get password ,what do you mean please?

And why we can't use SKC to make calculation ? i do not speak about BGA keys !!

3abas27 what you say is wrong !!! Not all tool need to renew ELV when changing EZS if all keys lost !! :)


Best regards Samic .

3abas27
29th December, 2015, 07:43 AM
You are right MI and nec prog 57 get password from ezs when all KEY l'ost

Samic
29th December, 2015, 08:41 AM
Hello Mate ,

What I mean is : when we read the hasch data from old EZS (w204) that have all keys lost , we type the pass randomly and after that we write those data (hasch and pass) in the Brand new EZS , right ?
So my question are :

1- What will be the procedure if instead using BRAND NEW EZS we use renewed ezs that also have a working key?
2-Can your tool renew ezs (w204) without having a working key ?
3- Are your tool able to get password from EZS FSB3 without having a working keys (EZS W166, 212, 246) ? like MI ,Diagspeed and necpro57 are able to do ?
4-Are your tool able to get password from old EIS that have motorolla like w203 w211 etc... ??
5- Can your tool repair ELV (w204) that have fatal error AA or when we need to change the internal motor (close and open elv)?
Also in your manual you say no need to desolder nec chips from keys (51 or 57 ) to get password ,what do you mean please?
And why we can't use SKC to make calculation ? i do not speak about BGA keys !!
3abas27 what you say is wrong !!! Not all tool need to renew ELV when changing EZS if all keys lost !! :)
Best regards Samic .


Hello,friend
1.Renew the old eis,load eis data,and write in.prepare key,load key file,write in new key.
2.Support renew eis(w204)without working key,only need key pass.&erased pass.
3.Support get password without working key,it's very fast,currently We are building a new server for lost all key EIS
4.We support get password from all CAN Protocol with working key support,old Kline not support now.It will be added in future.
W209, W211 with can protocol can get password via password calculation
5.Now we don't support repira w204 elv with AA error.This function is under developing

Get password from keys v51,v57 means if the EIS is CAN protocol,we can run password calculation to get key passowrd,no need desolder
You can use SKC to make calculation key file,we provide HC05 file format when you save EIS file.

H.Wessel
29th December, 2015, 10:02 AM
I too would purchase this tool if we got the free calculation daily without having to buy condor machine

+1 I will purchase it too if one free calculation daily
Samic, could you told the one making decision about this.

Someone more joining this request people?

Best regards
H.W

lpf01
29th December, 2015, 10:04 AM
+1 i wil buy it too with daily 1 free calc.

PremierD
29th December, 2015, 10:19 AM
Everyone always wants MORE if you were offered 5 free a day ... some muppet would come on and ask for ten :banghead:... and discussing buying is not for the open forum .. :)

3abas27
29th December, 2015, 06:19 PM
hello
product no so expensive why not ask mi and nec prog 57 and diagsped lower price minimun 6000 euro with price between 100 and 200 eurp password calculation
when this tool come our with accepted price all ask about free password calucltion
i am sure that this tool will be number 1 in market
i had vvdi2 is very powrfull tool
also get vvdibga
thanks to x horse company
tanks to samic

gurmk
30th December, 2015, 12:32 AM
Got mine today read the key in the IR as V57. Removed the NEC chip from the key and placed it SSOP adapter and software would not read it. Kept saying "NEC Adaptor with wrong socket type"

Siham
30th December, 2015, 04:11 AM
Hello Samic ,

Thank you for you answers :02.47-tranquillity: , but there still something i did not understand language problem i think :( :banghead: :

1-How is possible to get the key pass if the EZS have no working key ? As i know we can only get the pass from a working key.

2-When we get a used ezs with working key I have to read the pass from working key to also get the dealer password to be able to renew it ,right?
So when we use an renewed ezs that have a working key we have to adapt hasch data from old ezs (all keys lost) to the one renewed using witch password???
The one we got from the working keys that bellow to the renewed (replacement) ezs ?
Or the pass we entered manually at random after we read the hasch data from old ezs that have all keys lost??

Because as far i know we can choose the password only if we use a BRAND NEW EZS NOT RENEWED!!
Renewed and brand new are the same ?? i do not think!!:chuncky:

Best Regards!! :)

3abas27
30th December, 2015, 07:11 AM
I,test nec soket for reading KEY ROM 57 n? problem
just when need write not possible
via Ir Is ok

H.Wessel
30th December, 2015, 09:50 AM
hiya

just curious, did someone tested to read w204 51/57 eis by IR?, does it get password?

best regards
H.W

Samic
30th December, 2015, 10:56 AM
Got mine today read the key in the IR as V57. Removed the NEC chip from the key and placed it SSOP adapter and software would not read it. Kept saying "NEC Adaptor with wrong socket type"

about V57 via NEC adaptor support read and renew,not support write currently.after few days will support.
this is the adaptor connection diagram photo,will add in the next version User Manual.

349293

gurmk
30th December, 2015, 06:23 PM
about V57 via NEC adaptor support read and renew,not support write currently.after few days will support.
this is the adaptor connection diagram photo,will add in the next version User Manual.

349293

I am trying to read but no luck. The adaptor is like the images you uploaded. Would that indicate that I have a faulty unit?

dijo
30th December, 2015, 11:12 PM
I am trying to read but no luck. The adaptor is like the images you uploaded. Would that indicate that I have a faulty unit?

m8, read right...
it is not your fault, support NEC via adapter only in the next version...

Samic
31st December, 2015, 06:09 AM
Hello Samic ,

Thank you for you answers :02.47-tranquillity: , but there still something i did not understand language problem i think :( :banghead: :

1-How is possible to get the key pass if the EZS have no working key ? As i know we can only get the pass from a working key.
2-When we get a used ezs with working key I have to read the pass from working key to also get the dealer password to be able to renew it ,right?
So when we use an renewed ezs that have a working key we have to adapt hasch data from old ezs (all keys lost) to the one renewed using witch password???
The one we got from the working keys that bellow to the renewed (replacement) ezs ?
Or the pass we entered manually at random after we read the hasch data from old ezs that have all keys lost??
Because as far i know we can choose the password only if we use a BRAND NEW EZS NOT RENEWED!!
Renewed and brand new are the same ?? i do not think!!:chuncky:

Best Regards!! :)

hello friend
1. For lost all key,we are researching a new type for password.The specify EIS type is under testing.will be released soon
2. yes,we can renew the old eis with working key. For the EIS with working key(key A),after you write old eis data to the renewed EIS,key A will never work.The new key password can be random as you want.

Renewed and brand new all can use random password, it is none about old working key,it is new password for the lost all key car

Siham
31st December, 2015, 06:30 AM
Got you my friend , now is clear as water !
When we change EZS do we need also to renew elv ?

Regards

Nassreddine84
31st December, 2015, 01:52 PM
hi mates
i need your help anybody bought from the sales man WAYNE GUO is it a trusted resource there is no website or any address known can anybody help me has anybody any experience about buying through his skype any answer will be appreciable thank u mates best regards and happy new year

gurmk
31st December, 2015, 11:47 PM
"dijo" You say "support NEC via adapter only in the next version... "

"3abas27" Says "I,test nec soket for reading KEY ROM 57 n? problem just when need write not possible"

"Samic" Says "about V57 via NEC adaptor support read and renew,not support write currently"

So what I worked out according to Samic was that NEC Adaptor support read and renew and in the next update it will support write.
The only reason why I need to know is that, if mine is faulty "Aliexpess" is holding the money for my unit and I still have time to send it back for a refund.

hamzadaw2000
1st January, 2016, 06:54 AM
From where I can order vvdi MBtool devcie, on aliexpress, or other site.
As I found one supplier telling around 1600$ promotional price.



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Nassreddine84
1st January, 2016, 09:21 AM
Uobd2.net gave me 1200$ because i have condor mini

cqae
1st January, 2016, 10:12 AM
I bought my condor from him. He is the salesman for xhorse & while I only have bought from him once, he was honest & everything went well


hi mates
i need your help anybody bought from the sales man WAYNE GUO is it a trusted resource there is no website or any address known can anybody help me has anybody any experience about buying through his skype any answer will be appreciable thank u mates best regards and happy new year

Samic
4th January, 2016, 06:45 AM
Got you my friend , now is clear as water !
When we change EZS do we need also to renew elv ?

Regards

yes,currently version when change EIS need to rennew ELV.

diagprog7
4th January, 2016, 03:44 PM
hi mates
i need your help anybody bought from the sales man WAYNE GUO is it a trusted resource there is no website or any address known can anybody help me has anybody any experience about buying through his skype any answer will be appreciable thank u mates best regards and happy new year
WAYNE is mainly in charge of sales, if you think it is not credible, it is recommended to find other sales. Our company is currently no site, so, WAYNE is not any of the site. We don't want all the customers to contact our sales, so we have not set up their own websites. Later, we can according to

Fallen
5th January, 2016, 01:26 AM
Wayne is legit, no problems.

Key Center
5th January, 2016, 07:57 AM
where you can download the software VVDI Tool 2.0.4 of 31.12.2015 ?

Samic
5th January, 2016, 10:13 AM
where you can download the software VVDI Tool 2.0.4 of 31.12.2015 ?

mate,haven't released yet.if new version software ok,i will post here at the first time.

thebigk
6th January, 2016, 08:25 AM
Can anyone confirm which models you can program via OBD, I have found conflicting information.

Samic
6th January, 2016, 12:05 PM
Can anyone confirm which models you can program via OBD, I have found conflicting information.

please tell me your conflicting info in detail,then i can help you.

keyantic
6th January, 2016, 12:21 PM
can not write key
what is this؟
(this version need higher fimware support . please run updeate online)
i have version 2.0.3

Samic
6th January, 2016, 12:33 PM
Notes:from now on our server will update all key lost ,so the server will close 18hours,in this period cannot do any online calculator.
18hours later server will work again and we will release the new software V2.0.5 & new firmware(do Not use the old version any more).

keyantic
6th January, 2016, 12:49 PM
How do I download
new software V2.0.5

paul_12345
6th January, 2016, 12:51 PM
How do I download
new software V2.0.5

"18hours later server will work again and we will release the new software V2.0.5"

hkcarkey
7th January, 2016, 06:54 AM
can't wait for it..

Samic
7th January, 2016, 07:13 AM
VVDI MB TOOL latest version V2.0.5 update

************************************************** **********************
*** 2016-01-07
*** Require firmware V2.0.5
************************************************** **********************
===== BENZ V2.0.5 =====
1. Attention: All user update device to firmware v2.0.5, software v2.0.5, the lower version dont support password calculation
2. Add password calculation for lost all key. Support W166, W246, W212, W212(old). After success find password, it will need pay 2 calculation times
3. Password calculation with working key support: add working key test before data acquisition
4. Add EIS status test, working key test function
5. Fix bug for OBD read W203, W639, W463(K) EIS
6. Autodetect W212 EIS with ELV
7. Fix bug for read v51 key password via NEC adaptor
8. Add IR repair key function
9. Bugfix

aassfour
7th January, 2016, 07:53 AM
VVDI MB TOOL latest version V2.0.5 update

************************************************** **********************
*** 2016-01-07
*** Require firmware V2.0.5
************************************************** **********************
===== BENZ V2.0.5 =====
1. Attention: All user update device to firmware v2.0.5, software v2.0.5, the lower version dont support password calculation
2. Add password calculation for lost all key. Support W166, W246, W212, W212(old). After success find password, it will need pay 2 calculation times
3. Password calculation with working key support: add working key test before data acquisition
4. Add EIS status test, working key test function
5. Fix bug for OBD read W203, W639, W463(K) EIS
6. Autodetect W212 EIS with ELV
7. Fix bug for read v51 key password via NEC adaptor
8. Add IR repair key function
9. Bugfix


SUPPPPER WONDERFUL

hkcarkey
7th January, 2016, 08:28 AM
2 credits required for all key lost..which is still reasonable

keyantic
7th January, 2016, 08:30 AM
Not work
i have version V2.0.5
1-can not write key
(this version need higher fimware support . please run updeate online)

hkcarkey
7th January, 2016, 09:55 AM
need to update firmware

Key Center
7th January, 2016, 10:05 AM
everything works correctly
run MB tool V2.0.5 and load frimware

Fec001
7th January, 2016, 10:11 AM
I'm very interested on this tool too. I have some question as I'm not MB expert.
-What BE key means?
-Can this tool adapt new or used/renewed ELV to W204?
-Can this tool adapt second hand EZS with NEC MCU?(W204, W212, W221, W164 facelift, etc..)

Key Center
7th January, 2016, 10:31 AM
Can this tool adapt new or used/renewed ELV to W204?
Yes, did the test works perfectly
-Can this tool adapt second hand EZS with NEC MCU?(W204, W212, W221, W164 facelift, etc..)
Yes, renew of work, you need to have the EZS with a working key - calculate the key password and later the password reset

keyantic
7th January, 2016, 10:35 AM
hi
i can rede pass nec 57
but
i can not
write key
This message
(this version need higher fimware support . please run updeate online)

Fec001
7th January, 2016, 10:42 AM
So adapting second hand EZS with NEC is only possible if you have a working key for that EZS. Because of renew. If these types are reseted, you can write new km value too?

hkcarkey
7th January, 2016, 11:18 AM
-What BE key means?
>aftermarket key, which can read, write and erase without desoldering the NEC chip, password can also be read directly from infrared device
-Can this tool adapt new or used/renewed ELV to W204?
>ELV function is under development
-Can this tool adapt second hand EZS with NEC MCU?(W204, W212, W221, W164 facelift, etc..)
>Yes but you need password to erase original EZS data first

Mracni
7th January, 2016, 05:47 PM
yes,very confused this tool.i not understand wath is BE key!?? i know mercedes have 3 tipe key,motorola,nec and bga (atmel base) wath you mean BE key Samic ??
this tool not have solution for esl renew/fatall error in esl w204/212.
this tool can't programming bga tool.

3abas27
7th January, 2016, 07:13 PM
thankd samic i test password from 212 new model super
good tool need pay 2 tokens
need 10 min all ok

elektro128
7th January, 2016, 07:23 PM
...
good tool need pay 2 tokens
need 10 min all ok


and price token change - 35usd to 45usd :(

Regards

PremierD
7th January, 2016, 07:30 PM
No posting anything about prices please .. I'd hate to bin the thread :)

gmb45
7th January, 2016, 07:31 PM
No posting anything about prices please .. I'd hate to bin the thread :) hanging by one as well

Mracni
7th January, 2016, 07:45 PM
With this new china price i thing better buy from thelegend,elie have unlimitet calculate pass and have solution for esl problem.
I thing this china developer is little uppish,for 5 car must pay 500usd for token!

autodigitec
7th January, 2016, 11:36 PM
With this new china price i thing better buy from thelegend,elie have unlimitet calculate pass and have solution for esl problem.
I thing this china developer is little uppish,for 5 car must pay 500usd for token!

thelegend device is more expensive. you need "mb doctor" and "obd password"....

Mracni
8th January, 2016, 12:00 AM
Yes i know its expensive,and i hope maybe soon elie down this price,and giv to us normal price,thelegend is very trustable and software work good

mati-rk
8th January, 2016, 03:22 PM
Hello. Can someone explain me what is needed to calculate key password from eis when is all key lost?

didi_du_93000
8th January, 2016, 06:01 PM
Do you have see video of this tool?
They say can do all key lost on w212.
No tool can do it even Mehaco or nec pro51.

I thinks it's not w212 but w211

https://youtu.be/8UmrpRQ3RYI

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mercis
8th January, 2016, 06:35 PM
w212 eis on video

koncimobil
8th January, 2016, 06:39 PM
Do you have see video of this tool?
They say can do all key lost on w212.
No tool can do it even Mehaco or nec pro51.

I thinks it's not w212 but w211

https://youtu.be/8UmrpRQ3RYI

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