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SifuF
19th February, 2016, 09:36 PM
SOLVED!

Hello guys, really need some help here :(

My 2005 VW Golf mk5 1.4 fsi won't start.
It turns over but just doesn't fire.

What I have tried so far:
Replaced all 3 relays in engine bay
replaced ECU
stripped ecu-engine wiring harness. checked for shorts/open faults on the injector lines
replaced all 4 injectors
replaced on board power control unit (including all relays on it)

I'm running out of ideas. What should I try next?




Here is the vcds auto scan:

(the injector supply faults appear during cranking. No engine faults with just ignition on)

Friday,19,February,2016,09:15:32:62939
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.0.0
Data version: 20130910




VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5B145432 License Plate: HHHHH
Mileage: 267560km-166254mi Repair Order:






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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5B145432 Mileage: 267560km/166254miles


00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No SW: 03C 906 056 AJ HW: Hardware No
Component: MED 9.5.10 00 7002
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1972861
Coding: 0000071
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 49152
VCID: 6BD521274A702B46511-803E


4 Faults Found:
008519 - Supply Voltage for Fuel Injector Group A
P2147 - 002 - Short to Ground - MIL ON
008528 - Supply Voltage for Fuel Injector Group B
P2150 - 002 - Short to Ground - MIL ON
008528 - Supply Voltage for Fuel Injector Group B
P2150 - 002 - Short to Ground
008519 - Supply Voltage for Fuel Injector Group A
P2147 - 002 - Short to Ground
Readiness: 1110 0101


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0104
Coding: 0019073
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 08192
VCID: 3A7BD46375AA42CE9A7-806F


1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 EF
Component: Climatic PQ35 084 0404
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6CD7223B4F7E2C7E58B-8039


1 Fault Found:
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
009 - Open or Short to Ground


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 M HW: 1K0 937 049 M*
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 0803
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000001696015
Coding: 008D0F0600041800001400001400000000087B075C
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 155648
VCID: 3979CB6F70AC49D693D-806C


Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 B Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer VW350 012 0401
Coding: 00065493
Shop #: WSC 00046


1 Fault Found:
02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N HW: 1K0 909 605 N
Component: 08 AIRBAG VW8 015 2100
Revision: 03015000 Serial number: 0038ED0B8AH+
Coding: 0012344
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 08192
VCID: 377DCD5746B85FA6659-8062


Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME07273060$


Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME09261E33A


Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME07070F523


Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME0677196FJ


No fault code found.


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 E HW: 1K0 953 549 E
Component: Lenks?ulenmodul 021 0050
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 991232
VCID: 3467FA5B57CEB4BE40B-8061


No fault code found.


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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 1K0 920 951 H
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0716
Coding: 0003403
Shop #: WSC 00069 210 90065
VCID: 2E53E833B9E29E6E36F-807B


No fault code found.


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: Gateway H11 0110
Revision: 11 Serial number: 29001053140461
Coding: 3D0F0340070003
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 376832
VCID: 29591B2F800CF956E3D-807C


No fault code found.


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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No: 1K0 920 951 H
Component: IMMO VDD 0716
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E53E833B9E29E6E36F-807B


No fault code found.


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN1.lbl
Part No: 1K0 959 701 E
Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0148
Coding: 0000052
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 306FF64BA3D6889E243-8065


No fault code found.


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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 H
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0 1502
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3169F34FA8DC81962BD-8064


2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Mileage: 7520 km
Temperature: 10.0?C
Voltage: 12.20 V
Voltage: 12.00 V


00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -
Freeze Frame:




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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
Component: KSG 0401
Coding: 00C802087F2D8404085B018010CC
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 155648
VCID: 79F90B6F302C89D6D3D-802C


Subsystem 1 - Component: Sounder n.mounted


Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted


Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted


No fault code found.


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached


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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 L
Component: Radio BVX 010 0022
Coding: 0020200
Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
VCID: 2F6DF537BEE897663D9-807A


1 Fault Found:
00875 - Treble Speaker Front Right (R22)
011 - Open Circuit


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autoden
20th February, 2016, 06:58 PM
Replace injector loom that runs across head

SifuF
20th February, 2016, 07:53 PM
Thanks autoden, but the car doesn't have a removable loom for the injectors. Each injector connector is wired individually to the main ECU connector (which I've checked).

alfons37
20th February, 2016, 08:03 PM
Light engine lamp when you have ignition on?

Have you check +and - to ecu?

racin-snake
20th February, 2016, 08:20 PM
MED9.5.10 ECU ? these are prone to water damage

SifuF
20th February, 2016, 09:40 PM
Light engine lamp when you have ignition on?

Have you check +and - to ecu?


Yes the 'check engine' light is on with ignition on (along with the other warning lamps as I believe it should be?)

I have checked the supply to the ECU with ignition on (but not during cranking, which btw is when the engine faults appear)



MED9.5.10 ECU ? these are prone to water damage

Correct ECU, but I have replaced it already. Still didn't start.

alessioblaupunkt
21st February, 2016, 12:46 AM
You have the exact same mileage of my 1992 GIII. :)

Is it out of timing? If it is there would be code "phase signal incorrect".

There's not in your list but keep an eye because that silly timing chain with silly tensioner could be the reason.

It's a mess to check.
Here's the instruction for you. (http://workshop-manuals.com/skoda/octavia-mk2/drive_unit/1.4/90_kw_tsi_engine/engine_cylinder_head_valve_gear/cylinder_head_part_1/test_timing/)


Don't panic for Skoda logo, I'm simply too lazy to redo the search for VW logo ,when the difference is in fact, the logo.

If "Donate" appear, click on the top right gray X to exit the "Donate!" form.

Meat-Head
21st February, 2016, 02:53 PM
Push off.

if not can you run the starter motor 100% off another battery

teeone
26th February, 2016, 09:17 AM
hie mate this car is so tricky wat i first suggest is recheck your relay numbers relay look the same but rating affect starting. do you have spark and injector pulse

SifuF
9th March, 2016, 11:39 AM
For anyone interested, this turned out to be the fusebox in the engine bay. The box was internally shorted. Replaced it and the car fired up right away.

Thanks for all the replies.