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honingkoning
21st February, 2016, 01:57 AM
Guys is there a Way to change transponder in the 2011/2012 keys.
This keys Seems one part and not possible to open.
I can only remove one part where the battery is hidden.

Wbr Adam.

p1et
21st February, 2016, 02:11 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/465064-Whats-the-best-method-to-remove-the-new-style-Audi-remotes

honingkoning
21st February, 2016, 10:09 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/465064-Whats-the-best-method-to-remove-the-new-style-Audi-remotes

Thank you p1et,wasn't able to Find it.

mikajna
21st February, 2016, 02:49 PM
Yes, cut the transponder antenna coil from pcb, and original transponder will not work anymore, and program new glass id48 transponder than put in same place where was antenna, or look is there any closer position in key shell.

Good luck

honingkoning
21st February, 2016, 06:18 PM
Opening was really easy, but just to be Shure i need to cut the long square epcos part Right.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160221/3d19c2a303f4bcf8d0079d0266824b02.jpg

rob h
21st February, 2016, 09:19 PM
Yes just take the grey tip of.
I just break it from the board, and glue a glass transponder in place.

autochei
21st February, 2016, 09:34 PM
bro see this video how to open remote without destroy transponder or case and then remove antena and put id 48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKdNgv1Fgo

p1et
21st February, 2016, 09:46 PM
bro see this video how to open remote without destroy transponder or case and then remove antena and put id 48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TKdNgv1Fgo

So he did not push the pin inside? Then how it was pushed when he took apart?

autochei
21st February, 2016, 09:52 PM
some procedure i use me too no risk to damaged remote

pin broke case only that

u can try and u see it s the best method

yugo45
22nd February, 2016, 04:36 AM
So he did not push the pin inside? Then how it was pushed when he took apart?

You can do that way but it brakes part of the piece where pin goes. It will stay in place but I prefer to get pin out and disolder antenna .

honingkoning
22nd February, 2016, 07:21 PM
Thank you guys, i did like you Said and i programmed 2 keys on desk.
Car is running but now i have error in ecu (ecu blocked) but Car is running.
Dtc P1570 could this be caused by transponder weak signal?

This Car they tried to steal but they where not able to take the Car.

Did someone manage to solve such problem.

Wbr Adam.

gttuning
22nd February, 2016, 09:34 PM
Update ECU maybe

rob h
22nd February, 2016, 09:45 PM
Did they swith ecu, or make immo off.

Thank you guys, i did like you Said and i programmed 2 keys on desk.
Car is running but now i have error in ecu (ecu blocked) but Car is running.
Dtc P1570 could this be caused by transponder weak signal?

This Car they tried to steal but they where not able to take the Car.

Did someone manage to solve such problem.

Wbr Adam.

honingkoning
22nd February, 2016, 09:48 PM
@GTtuning i could give that a try (have to go to dealer)

@ Rob h dont think immo off possible in dcm 3.7 (1.2 TDI 2011)

rob h
22nd February, 2016, 10:51 PM
Did you recharge the battery? And erase all dtc?
Immo off is only possible with immo 4 emulator for this type. These emulators fit inside the ecu.

You say the car was stolen, or the keys were stolen?

honingkoning
23rd February, 2016, 07:52 PM
Problem solved guys, after driving the Car for 1 hour i was able to clean the errors.

Thanks guys.

@ Rob h they tried to steal the Car en they corrupted the security block.
When i put dash in service mode and read S_key/eep/sec block with xcan there was a checksum error.
And Car was not accepting any key not the original and not the new keys.
After correcting checksum in immo block, ori keys not accepted new transponder in key and Car starts.

Last question guys isnt it possible to re program ori keys after deleting them?

Wbr Adam.

rob h
24th February, 2016, 12:53 AM
You can reprogram them. Just add key, they are allready dealer Keys.
I assume that no changes in the cars CS are made!

keysmith
24th February, 2016, 05:23 AM
Where are you guys getting shells for these new style VAG flip keys? Tried 2 different Chinese sources, they each sent a different shell but neither would fit the new style circuit board pictured.

Locker
24th February, 2016, 06:49 AM
Where are you guys getting shells for these new style VAG flip keys? Tried 2 different Chinese sources, they each sent a different shell but neither would fit the new style circuit board pictured.

That's the problem with chinese shells (all shells are chinese anyways), its a hit and miss, even same supplier would sell you different types 6 months later.

yugo45
24th February, 2016, 07:25 AM
Last question guys isnt it possible to re program ori keys after deleting them?

Wbr Adam.

Read key ID with key maker.
Add ID in Sec.block editor in X-Dash ,and chnage count of the keys.Save new sec.block with checksum calculated .
Wrote new Sec.bock in dash and all should work.
NOTE;
In sec block editor key needs to be write backwards form what key maker read.
example,
Key maker = ID 23E567DE
Sec block = ID DE67E523

Carkeysa
24th February, 2016, 12:14 PM
I got from Honrow VW-SH-52 and not had a problem. They were a perfect fit.

honingkoning
24th February, 2016, 09:19 PM
Read key ID with key maker.
Add ID in Sec.block editor in X-Dash ,and chnage count of the keys.Save new sec.block with checksum calculated .
Wrote new Sec.bock in dash and all should work.
NOTE;
In sec block editor key needs to be write backwards form what key maker read.
example,
Key maker = ID 23E567DE
Sec block = ID DE67E523

Thank you for that, i have the smok key marker also for 2 years or longer only used it twice [emoji15].

Guys what countrys have panic button i never saw this in my country.

Could someone advice me a good keycutter (mainly used on vw) i dont use it a lot so not too expensive.

Wbr Adam.

PremierD
24th February, 2016, 09:40 PM
The land of the free have panic buttons mate ... lol

rob h
24th February, 2016, 10:12 PM
Key cutter v8/x6 is fairly priced.

Thank you for that, i have the smok key marker also for 2 years or longer only used it twice [emoji15].

Guys what countrys have panic button i never saw this in my country.

Could someone advice me a good keycutter (mainly used on vw) i dont use it a lot so not too expensive.

Wbr Adam.

yugo45
25th February, 2016, 06:20 AM
Anyone have any feed back about this key cutter, not very expensive:
http://www.uobd2.net/wholesale/condor-ikeycutter-manually-key-cutting-machine.html

rob h
25th February, 2016, 11:07 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/383783-X6-V8-Key-Code-Cutting-Machine?highlight=Condor

yugo45
25th February, 2016, 04:12 PM
Rob h ,
not v8/x6 ,
I ask about one I post link , mini Condor duplicator.

rob h
25th February, 2016, 06:05 PM
That reply and link where ment for Honingkoning, he asked about a good keycutter.
I recommend him to check the v8/x6 posts.

Rob h ,
not v8/x6 ,
I ask about one I post link , mini Condor duplicator.