vauxall vectra 2002 had key customer lost chip

[godfathertre]

tried to add key to car customer lost chip from key got


pcf 7935 type 40 wr also with type 40 crypto pcf7935 the vehicle would not add any keys says wrong transponder cleared old keys no difference any help a simple job turned

a total nightmare vehicle was ex police car right pin entered and accepted.

[p1et]

This is Vectra B or C? If Vectra C, need id46 chip.

[godfathertre]

is vectra c tried also with id philips id 46 t14 no difference the immobilieser light still on .

[p1et]

I am not sure but I think you can program only remote key for this car. Get Delphi G3 remote and try.

[Faraday]

this should be pcf 7946 no separate transponder

[godfathertre]

this was the key360664

[p1et]

Man, this is the old type, now only flip key remote available as replacing. As I said, you need Delphi G3 remote.

[szkeptmen]

No, this key for Astra-G (ID40)
Your car need 3 button remote key, with integrated transponder (PCF7946)
You must pre-code it, before you program to car...

[p1et]

You must pre-code it, before you program to car...

What precode? Just need G3 Delphi remote and then program straight with pin...

[paul_12345]

Man, this is the old type, now only flip key remote available as replacing. As I said, you need Delphi G3 remote.

No, picture is 2 button so this will be Vectra B

[godfathertre]

customer had two keys bought car from auction both like the photo one no chip the last one told me dropped the transponder job too far already wasted fuel and time and made no money thank you for your help anyway how come keys come from auction this

was a ex police car in the past thank you .

[p1et]

No, picture is 2 button so this will be Vectra B

I know that, but he said Vectra C so I suppose this picture only reffering that the remote is not flip type.


customer had two keys bought car from auction both like the photo one no chip the last one told me dropped the transponder job too far already wasted fuel and time and made no money thank you for your help anyway how come keys come from auction this


Ok, last time I helped you. If you can't even recognize the car u have, that's not worth anymore...

[P&D]

Its a new flip key

Cross Reference:
3D Group: VXR7 now VXR7va
Genuine Part Number: Z16474 (2 button Z-series)
Genuine Part Number: 93187531 (3 button H-series)
Advanced Keys: AKK194
Hickleys: AKK194
NW Keys: GEM-NWKS28


Vehicles:
Vauxhall Vectra C 2002-2008
Vauxhall Signum 2003-2007


NOTE:
Vauxhall Vectra
From chassis (last 8 digits) 51000001 until 59999999

Or one of these ID46 transponder http://www.nwkeys.co.uk/Portal.aspx?page=43&prod=10184

[kemaster]

If it's Vectra C and you want to program it by OBD you need PCF7946. You can use second hand 3 button remote key:360689 .Change PCF7946, precode and program it. You can also use PCB(P&D gave you a link) like this one:360692

[coolsoda]

Did the owner buy the car as a non runner from auction


360719

The Vectra C 3 Button Horseshoe remote Circuit board has an induction coil (bottom right)

Do both remote keys work opening central locking
Read both keys in Zedbull,does it read PCF7946
if the above 2 are a yes
You may have a problem with ignition pickup coil or problem with car

[godfathertre]

The key above old style keys was the keys the customer had said bought car from auction and he lost chip I don't believe it I think was a non runner job too far to go back spent several hours trying 3 different transponder to no joy I while ago I had the same fault on a corsa and was a bad earth with was stopping programming key .

[p1et]

If Vectra C, he could not lost the chip as there is no separate transponder!

[godfathertre]

Must have been vectra b has key blade has slot for transponder tried 3 transponder ID 40 Opel ID 40 crypto also id 46 not joy on programming says wrong transponder or transponder not added tried opcom SBB v33 eventually I gave up after several hours.

[p1et]

Must have been vectra b

That's so professional :biggrin-new:

[coolsoda]

tried 3 transponder ID 40 Opel ID 40 crypto also id 46 .

Did you produce the ID40 Transponders from blank pcf7935 your self ,or did you buy some

[godfathertre]

The 3 transponders are all new and checked with zedbull before .

[kemaster]

You was at the car and you say "Must have been Vectra B" which means you are not sure what it was?????:hmmmm2::hmmmm2:. May be before key programming car model course recognition is needed. So many people tried to help you and you can't even give simple details. So how then you can be helped. Keep trying programming new transponders

[godfathertre]

the car must have been vectra b i do not do vauxall cars the last 2 , i done all i had but trouble the transponder was id40 0pel wr than tried with id 40 crypt transponder and id 46 t14 no joy according to year should have been id40 t12 the customer had 2 keys with non transponder and 2 remotes none of the remotes could close or open car 360829 ex police car 3.2 engine said lost chip from key as i said spent over 2 hours i had to give up eventually as i said sometimes customer tell lies the car could have been a non runner from auction where he bought thank you .

[paul_12345]

the car must have been vectra b i do not do vauxall cars the last 2 , i done all i had but trouble the transponder was id40 0pel wr than tried with id 40 crypt transponder and id 46 t14 no joy according to year should have been id40 t12 the customer had 2 keys with non transponder and 2 remotes none of the remotes could close or open car 360829 ex police car 3.2 engine said lost chip from key as i said spent over 2 hours i had to give up eventually as i said sometimes customer tell lies the car could have been a non runner from auction where he bought thank you .

FFS thats a 3 button, so probably Vectra C which have not got seperate transponders as its pcf7946!! and pcf7936 wont work!

[mikajna]

Mate, could you get photo of car? And everyone will help you quite easy than...

:)

[p1et]

Too late now :biggrin:

[coolsoda]

3.2 Engine is a vectra C, If the job is in Glasgow i will do it

[rapidlocksmiths]

if a vectra c which is likely on year and engine and 3 button remote , then id40 is wrong chip , also T14 id46 is also wrong chip , it must be an integrated chip , you needed a vectra c 3 button flip key or an emulator board for this , not a blank 46 chip.

had you known the car you was working on , ie vectra B or vectra C , you could have selected the correct key to code to it , as it is you selected the wrong chips on each try thus couldnt complete job and wasted hours of your time .

you really need to help yourself by investing in the proper equipment and some info sources to help you id the correct key and chip requirements , you will always find others to help you but must at some point do all you can to help yourself , you really need to give accurate info for anyone to be able to help you .

[godfathertre]

the guy bought car from auction said he lost chip open the two keys he had old style keys none o f them had transponder chips tried 3 different transponder never had new style vectra c on stock car was ex police bought from auction car was 30 miles from my house

in ardrossan i think car was never running i had a bad feeling before going to this job customer sometimes tell you porkies total waste of 3 hours .

[rapidlocksmiths]

lots of customers with key problems on early vauxhall vectra c models claim to have lost chip , its also one of the incorrect faults diagnosed by roadside patrols , but at the end of the day its us thats supposed to be the professionals and know which type of key or chip the car uses , not the customers , after all we advertise our services as skilled trademen so its for us to know our stuff , after all thats what they are paying for .

rule 1 , never trust a word the customer tells you . always get reg or vin before quoting , on cross over years you can then check what model you are quoting on .

had you taken reg number or vin and looked it up you would have known which model of vectra you were quoting on , a quick look up and you would have known exactly what chip or key you needed , a simple transponder and key guide book from nw keys at just ?10 would have given you all the key and chip info you needed , yes it may be ?10 for an info resource and a few minutes of time looking it up , but would have saved you 3 hours as well as made you look alot more knowledgable and professional to the customer , so win win .

the original 3 button remote key that was used on the 1st vectra c is an old style key , but never ever used a seperate transponder chip on the c model , all the HU43 blades that fit this old style remote have a transponder slot in them as the same blade as used on vectra b , its just never used and remains empty as no seperate transponder for the c models .

the fact its an ex police vehicle , is not significant and the customers knows far less than you , so you never take their diagnosis of the problem , you ask the right questions , until you know your stuff you look up the correct parts and procedures , as saves you wasted journeys and times .