tssop or normal eeprom? - car list

[mileage1]

hi guys.

maybe a good idea to make a list of cars (from 2011) which tells if the car has a normal eeprom or a micro eeprom (tssop)..
(chip in dash to change mileage).

I start:


Toyota corolla 2013- msop
Nissan qashqai 2015- msop
Ssangyoung Korando 2013- tssop
yamaha tmax 2013 - tssop

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Subaru xv 2012 tssop
New Santa fe 2014 tssop
Toyota yaris 2015 tssop
Hyundai elantra 2015 tssop
Honda Accord 2016 tssop

[maremuruk]

Suzuki Ertiga 2013 - msop
Toyota Avanza 2012 - msop
Honda CRV 2013 - tssop

[rastus86]

Hyundai I30 2013 msop

[claudio35]

Toyota avanza 2015 c66 msop 8

Toyota Hilux 2016 c66 msop 8

Toyota Yaris 2015 c66 msop 8

Toyota Vitz 2015 c66 msop 8

Santa fe 2014 c66 msop 8

[vrsc]

Toyota Rav 4 8 tssop

[diagtech]

Hyundai ix35 tssop

[mileage1]

Hyundai ix35 tssop

do you know year and chip no.?
thnx

[martij976]

hi guys.

maybe a good idea to make a list of cars (from 2011) which tells if the car has a normal eeprom or a micro eeprom (tssop)..
(chip in dash to change mileage).

I start:


Toyota corolla 2013- msop
Nissan qashqai 2015- msop
Ssangyoung Korando 2013- tssop
yamaha tmax 2013 - tssop

What is that for??? U open and see.....
With proper tool u don't have to elaborate what is inside....
Just my two cents....

[mileage1]

I have an expensive pogo adapter. but I don't have steady hand, so i'm afraid to use it. (any tips?).

or maybe other people might not have the expensive tools or skills for the job. if you don't find this thread interesting, then don't read it ;)

[captain crackers]

"I have an expensive pogo adapter. but I don't have steady hand, so i'm afraid to use it. (any tips?)". Practice or search for a job as a maracas player? Arthur.

[zckariya70]

"I have an expensive pogo adapter. but I don't have steady hand, so i'm afraid to use it. (any tips?)". Practice or search for a job as a maracas player? Arthur.


Trace out the track Captain and solder 6 wires that is safe to programme the tssop chips

[hcip]

". Practice or search for a job as a maracas player? Arthur.

Captain,
My eyes are blurry, so I use an electron microscope, but I am afraid when I see the eeprom is bigger than me....

[maremuruk]

Practice or search for a job as a maracas player? Arthur.



Captain,
My eyes are blurry, so I use an electron microscope, but I am afraid when I see the eeprom is bigger than me....

LOL.... sorry, can't help it.... you are fun guys !! :palm::rofl:

Sorry Heinleo, i didn't mean to make fun of you

[claudio35]

I have an expensive pogo adapter. but I don't have steady hand, so i'm afraid to use it. (any tips?).

or maybe other people might not have the expensive tools or skills for the job. if you don't find this thread interesting, then don't read it ;)


Homemade, cheap, easy to use

[eliaselias]

my home made adapter
work with tssop and mssop .. cost me 8$ only
394509

[rukartinatv]

What needeles size you use?
thank you

[hcip]

What needeles size you use?
thank you

PL50-B1 or P50-B1

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-100PCS-LOT-PL50-B1-28MM-FUNCTION-TEST-PROBES-POGO-PIN/1077621330.html

[eliaselias]

i have use p35-b1 its the best size for tssop or msop... but every 1 needle cost about 1$
and the minimum quantity is 25 pieces

[captain crackers]

I have no problems with unsteady hands or eyesight. Take mssop off the pcb (10 seconds), put into zif socket (10 seconds), read, verify, save. Then program and verify. Take out of zif socket (10 seconds). replace mssop and re-solder (30 seconds). The chip is off the board and 100% safe to read/write. If required I can do the job on board but I find removing the eeprom quicker and safer. Cost about $4 plus the zif socket. The box plugs directly into UPA and DP3 and many other devices using simple gender changers. Arthur.

[PremierD]

:top:............ cannot beat old school mate .................. :)

[captain crackers]

For "Blue Peter" viewers wondering what I use for other eeprom packages. here are two devices I made earlier

[claudio35]

my home made adapter
work with tssop and mssop .. cost me 8$ only
394509



Good, but It is a clone, not the original ...:chuncky:

[claudio35]

That's expensive, you can not work on site, it requires desoldering, slow....Captain

[captain crackers]

Claudio, I only work from home so no problem with de-soldering/soldering there. If you have the best possible equipment, which I do have, working on site, de-soldering/soldering is not a problem either. I am never in a hurry so speed is not an essential but while you are driving between your jobs, I can be de-soldering/soldering possibly the next 2 or 3 jobs. Infra red de-soldering/soldering, vaccum pickup, the best weller pyropens. Antex soldering irons, Wells and 3m zif sockets Snap on tools. Micro milling machine (to make pogo pin probes if I want). I doubt that anyone spends more on their working tools (not dealer programming tools) than I do. Yes it is expensive but I have the work to more than justify the expense. I have been in mileage correction for 54+ years now, 27+ years on digital dashes (with a customer base of 27+years) and analogue dashes prior to that. I think I have a good idea of the equipment I need for the way I work and for tssop, mssop and soic eeproms, the safest and best way for me is to remove the eeprom wherever possible and place it in a zif socket. Arthur.

[claudio35]

Claudio, I only work from home so no problem with de-soldering/soldering there. If you have the best possible equipment, which I do have, working on site, de-soldering/soldering is not a problem either. I am never in a hurry so speed is not an essential but while you are driving between your jobs, I can be de-soldering/soldering possibly the next 2 or 3 jobs. Infra red de-soldering/soldering, vaccum pickup, the best weller pyropens. Antex soldering irons, Wells and 3m zif sockets Snap on tools. Micro milling machine (to make pogo pin probes if I want). I doubt that anyone spends more on their working tools (not dealer programming tools) than I do. Yes it is expensive but I have the work to more than justify the expense. I have been in mileage correction for 54+ years now, 27+ years on digital dashes (with a customer base of 27+years) and analogue dashes prior to that. I think I have a good idea of the equipment I need for the way I work and for tssop, mssop and soic eeproms, the safest and best way for me is to remove the eeprom wherever possible and place it in a zif socket. Arthur.

I understand, my job is in this place Where the customer, but my system is safe, fast, cheap.


The other tools pogos pin, are very expensive and difficult to align the pin.
zip tools require a lot of work, have experience, lots of light, and risk losing the chip or damage.

[rukartinatv]

http://www.speedofix.com/adapters/pogo-adapters.htm
1 min job with this adupters

[captain crackers]

So $480 gets you the TSSOP, MSSOP and SOIC pogo pin probes. I have the tools to make these probes but even if I did not I could buy a micro milling machine and all the bits and pieces to make them and have the milling machine and about $100 left over at the end. I like good equipment but who in their right mind would pay $100 for a blue Pomona SOIC lead and $340 for a TSSOP and MSSOP pogo pin probe? Arthur.

[claudio35]

http://www.speedofix.com/adapters/pogo-adapters.htm
1 min job with this adupters


That's very very expensive. and difficult to align also you need one for MSOP and one for TSSOP

[martij976]

E-Z HOOK from andromeda........ That's it.

[rukartinatv]

Msop clip good for tssop))

[captain crackers]

Does anyone have a better solution than mine for MSSOP and TSSOP that will not read on the PCB (even with in circuit adapters) as is the case with some airbg ECUs. Arthur.

[zckariya70]

captain u need to reduce the voltage to read and write this kind of chips, i dont know what programmer u r using to read this chip but i use UPA, Unipro, i read and write in 2.5V and also i use carprog it reads and write like charm.

[digimile]

hi
Zckariya ....i think you have read more and more about captain ...He is Head master of the school in which we are studying....

[zckariya70]

hi
Zckariya ....i think you have read more and more about captain ...He is Head master of the school in which we are studying....


Yes i agree mate , but i posted my experiance what i did....................

[captain crackers]

Not all chips will read on the PCB, whatever voltage and or in circuit adapters are used. So why bother trying when they can be easily removed. I have programmers that go down to 1 volt and in circuit adapters that work on most PCBs but |I prefer to remove the eeproms where possible. So it is quicker to use a fancy probe (be it expensive or home made) to read/write the chips in circuit. How much time does it save? 2 minutes?, 3 minutes? What do you intend to do during the 2 or 3 minutes you have saved? Arthur.

[DARFVADER]

:cower: Cant seem to find the ' remove/read/write/replace eeprom ' button on my machine , where does it be in the menu ?

[mikajna]

Guys mr. Captain crackers is right, best way is to remove eeprom, there is no any risk or any possibility to make damage. There is some easier ways with those adapters, but does not make sense that some stupid adapter worth more than many programmers....

I also prefer to remove eeprom, mssop and tssop 95xxx which upa read good with 5NF cable, only use it for 5NF ecus because eeprom is on other side...removing those eeproms+reading+soldering is 5min job, just need little practice

Without offense, that is my opinion...

[claudio35]

Not all chips will read on the PCB, whatever voltage and or in circuit adapters are used. So why bother trying when they can be easily removed. I have programmers that go down to 1 volt and in circuit adapters that work on most PCBs but |I prefer to remove the eeproms where possible. So it is quicker to use a fancy probe (be it expensive or home made) to read/write the chips in circuit. How much time does it save? 2 minutes?, 3 minutes? What do you intend to do during the 2 or 3 minutes you have saved? Arthur.


Not everyone can remove a chip, programmed to calculate and resoldering in three minutes. Less outside the workshop

[rukartinatv]

you dont need to remove eeprom
if you use right programer like dp4
and pogo pin adupter

[captain crackers]

Darfvader, you say "Cant seem to find the ' remove/read/write/replace eeprom ' button on my machine , where does it be in the menu". It should be next to the "does anyone have a dump for ----" button! Arthur.