Sid206 cloning

[teerak2uk]

What's the procedure I have tried to backup seperately and you get

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If I just do backup I get an option to save seperately

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So on restore do seperately or does 1 file pull others in

All read/write via ktag

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Regards

[javyb]

Transfer the .epr file it should transfer immo data

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[teerak2uk]

Yes but other data will be needed from other areas as the sid206 is fitted in numerous vehicles

[carmageddon]

to clone one ecu you need : flash-mpc-e2p

sid 206/803 (with 2mb flash) is not clonable

[teerak2uk]

to clone one ecu you need : flash-mpc-e2p

sid 206/803 (with 2mb flash) is not clonable
But when you do backup there are 3 files

2048kb map area
675kb some other area
4kb Eeprom area

[carmageddon]

675kb some other area

this is encrypted backup of flash and e2p

mpc is not readable on this ecu

ps : if you make backup on sid 803 (1 mb flash) you have 4 files : flash, mpc, e2p and encrypted backup

[teerak2uk]

this is encrypted backup of flash and e2p

mpc is not readable on this ecu

ps : if you make backup on sid 803 (1 mb flash) you have 4 files : flash, mpc, e2p and encrypted backup
What options are there original ecu damaged from accident so customer came to me with original and replacement which has matching h/w & s/w numbers

[carmageddon]

read on label all numbers and find one used ecu with the same numbers
make backup for compare flash
write flash and e2p on used ecu
connect to car
start

[teerak2uk]

read on label all numbers and find one used ecu with the same numbers
make backup for compare flash
write flash and e2p on used ecu
connect to car
start
This is what I've done was just unsure what the other file was that's all maybe it's just a compressed fash & eeprom file

[carmageddon]

if you dont have the same ecu number you can not write e2p and flash because the car dont start

[teerak2uk]

Both are same

HW: CAFRB650FRB6500
SW: 10107066AA
SW UPG: 6G91-12A650-EM
VIN NR:
SPARE:
INSTALLATION:
ENGINE:

[carmageddon]

i wrote : you need to have same numbers on the label on ecu...if this is the same you have same MPC, then you can write flash and e2p....if not your car will not start

[teerak2uk]

Yes label on casing is same too

[carmageddon]

ok, i make 3 time this operation and work

[remolyy]

How about eeprom writing protection. I read sid206 flash and eeprom. Then write flash back. But on the eeprom writing geting error Write protection enabled.
Thanks

[Vespamike]

to clone one ecu you need : flash-mpc-e2p

sid 206/803 (with 2mb flash) is not clonable

Hi everyone, I don't really agree with what you say, that is, it depends on the chip that mounts the ecu. If you look at the technical data sheet of the MPC56X it highlights that the MPC561 and 562 do not have flash, so it can be deduced that their program is written completely in the external flash. In my case I have a SID206 of a Ford Kuga to clone with MPC561. I bought for €30 a Ford Focus ecu always SID206 with the same hw id, but different sw code. So by reading flash in bdm and eeprom I should be able to clone it. I'll let you know if the test is successful.

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[carmageddon]

Vespamike : post #8, to start and working car, if you have same HW number, you need only to transfer e2p, if SW number are different you need also to transfer flash...if mpc is not readable you cannot clone ecu, but is not necessary clone ecu to start car

[Vespamike]

Sorry carmageddon, I don't quite understand the final part (maybe translation problems).
Same HW for me means same PCB with same components, this to interface correctly with all the devices that manage the engine (sensors and actuators). If the PCB is therefore identical and the micro has no internal flash (MPC651), by doing a swap (physical or software) of external flash / e2p you have "cloned" the control unit. The flash in this case contains SW + maps while the e2p contains immo coding data etc..


If the micro instead has internal memory, it is likely that the SW is written in the mcu and if it cannot be read, then all that remains is the physical swap of the micro or finding an ecu with the same SW code and obviously the HW will be too.


In my case the SID 206 has an MPC561 which has no internal memory so the external flash contains SW+maps, so by swap the flash and E2P, I think have a working clone of the ECU.
Anyway, these days I'll get the ecu test and I'll let you know! ;)

[Vespamike]

Vespamike : post #8, to start and working car, if you have same HW number, you need only to transfer e2p, if SW number are different you need also to transfer flash...if mpc is not readable you cannot clone ecu, but is not necessary clone ecu to start car

Here, test passed successfully. the car runs perfectly with sid206 ecu cloned on ecu with different code. The important thing is that it has the same hw number (to have the same internal components). Greetings