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Jancss
15th September, 2016, 02:54 PM
Hello,

I have fault code 16785 P0401 exaust gas recirculation flow insufficient detected. Regarding this fault I have done a variety of things: cleaned egr valve, collector, cheked vacuum in egr and all line.
The fault code anyway appears after clearing and about 10-20 km driving.


An idea is EGR off, but I do not know if it will solve this problem?

Maybe you can recommend where looking for or what you suggest to do?

Regards

mario38
15th September, 2016, 02:56 PM
a solution may be to delete files from egr and dtc ... !!

bobolin4o
15th September, 2016, 02:57 PM
How is the MAF reading...VCDS, Engine, Basic settings, Chanel 003...?

Act Tuning
15th September, 2016, 03:32 PM
Egr remove solution will solve your egr problem, but will have

Jancss
15th September, 2016, 04:22 PM
MAF show following:
air mas per stroke :440 mg
duty cycle :15.14 %

Sometimes values briefly changes to 505 mg and 96.4 % duty

In this car it is not DPF

bobolin4o
15th September, 2016, 04:32 PM
This mean, that there is problem with the EGR flow... EGR is open, but the gases don't flow through it.
Something is clogged there...

Jancss
15th September, 2016, 04:52 PM
I don't think so... EGR is clean, also throttle and intake manifold.
At first I thought that the EGR itself is dead, but making output test valve worked, also vacuum is not lost, strange..

bobolin4o
15th September, 2016, 04:58 PM
When the actuator is 85%, the MAF must show around 300 mg/H
When the actuator is 15%, the MAF must show around 480 mg/H
So, make your conclusions...
Do you have Teamviewer on the diagn. computer... i would like to see with my eyes...

Jancss
15th September, 2016, 05:08 PM
one of cunclusions is EGR remove, next .. no idea where to look and check.

When the actuator is 15%, the MAF must show around 480 mg/H ->> very close to my parameter , 2nd ... completely off...heah....:(

bobolin4o
15th September, 2016, 05:14 PM
With software EGR closing you'll never get back P0401...
So, read the file from ECU and post it in this thread, someone will do the EGR of for sure.

BTW, unplug the MAF sensor and look if DTC will appear...

Jancss
15th September, 2016, 05:31 PM
Yep, DTC appear from MAF...

Tomorrow I will read ECU file and then will post

bobolin4o
15th September, 2016, 05:36 PM
Hm...
what will happened if you put a vacuum to the EGR actuator Directly?
The MAF must show around 200 mg at idle...

And another thing... there are a lot of opinions about the ~~~~ing EGR in the net... but believe me, if you disable it, only good things you can expect.
So, read the file...

Bye for now!

kospoz
15th September, 2016, 08:27 PM
in bkd engines most common fault is the plastic box which have all vacuum lines. Check it with vacuum tool also with the tool check the egr if is ok with no leaks.But like bobo said removing is the best solution

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 08:41 AM
Here is it 398160

Please help me with EGR off

bobolin4o
16th September, 2016, 09:15 AM
This is EEPROM file, mate...
We need the FLASH file here!

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 09:22 AM
Oh, sorry.... brobably my vag dash k+can can't do it... need another tool to read flah... like a Vag commander?
I will tray again

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 02:41 PM
Here will be right file...

bobolin4o
16th September, 2016, 02:50 PM
Here will be right file...
This should solve your problem.

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 03:24 PM
This should solve your problem.


Thanks, later i will reply if help it

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 04:06 PM
there no inside check amount and car not start

MOHCIN2
16th September, 2016, 04:15 PM
TRY WITH THAT FILE IF YOU CAN ALWAYS COMMUNICATE WITH THE ECU WRITE IT BY OBD IF NOT WRITE IT WITH BDM FRAM

bobolin4o
16th September, 2016, 04:46 PM
there no inside check amount and car not start

Which tool you use to read/write?

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 07:17 PM
MPPS ECU Chip Tuning

Jancss
16th September, 2016, 07:18 PM
TRY WITH THAT FILE IF YOU CAN ALWAYS COMMUNICATE WITH THE ECU WRITE IT BY OBD IF NOT WRITE IT WITH BDM FRAM

oh , ya.. this one help, big thanks

No more faults no more problems :)