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oeyek
22nd September, 2016, 03:24 AM
Hi members
I'm having this problem with 3 KTM bikes now. 990 and 1190 made between 2009 to 2011.
None of my machines can read the chips inside. TRS5000, CN900, Handy Baby, Tango, VVDI2....[emoji26] . I only manage to read a Pg 3 data using Tango.
My questions:
1. If we got the orange key, how do we program a new key? Any precode needed for the 4D?
2. Can this chip be possibly cloned from the black key?
Thank you for any input or information, I will greatly appreciate.
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gepakg
22nd September, 2016, 03:58 PM
this 3 KTM bike`s are based on ZADI immo type 1 with 24lc04 inside
on first question answer is yes,can be programmed black key (not need preapre) with orange but with 4 digit pin code and diagnostic equipment
soon as i know tango can clone this bit different 4d transponder without problem
all is clear on them...page 1 is BB,page 2 is 00,page 3 is serial id with manufacturer code,and page 4 is secret key from immo dump and one of this tool can challenge it...
regards Gepa
Hi members
I'm having this problem with 3 KTM bikes now. 990 and 1190 made between 2009 to 2011.
None of my machines can read the chips inside. TRS5000, CN900, Handy Baby, Tango, VVDI2....[emoji26] . I only manage to read a Pg 3 data using Tango.
My questions:
1. If we got the orange key, how do we program a new key? Any precode needed for the 4D?
2. Can this chip be possibly cloned from the black key?
Thank you for any input or information, I will greatly appreciate.
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oeyek
22nd September, 2016, 04:11 PM
Hi Gepa
That's a great help. I read your previous posts too...u are a god sent. But i do not have immo dump to read, Is the pg4 unique to every bike or is it the same?
I'm adding a key to the bike so i can't be asking the customer to allow me to get the immo dump.
Regards
Oeyek
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gepakg
22nd September, 2016, 05:54 PM
no friend,no unique secret key page 4 on any KTM bike,every have different secret key...
depend on model of immo have and different location of this:-)))) strange & good bike :-)))
regards Gepa
Hi Gepa
That's a great help. I read your previous posts too...u are a god sent. But i do not have immo dump to read, Is the pg4 unique to every bike or is it the same?
I'm adding a key to the bike so i can't be asking the customer to allow me to get the immo dump.
Regards
Oeyek
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oeyek
22nd September, 2016, 05:58 PM
Thank u again. So i must read eeprom 24LC04 to get secret key?
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gepakg
22nd September, 2016, 06:07 PM
my opinion is first to try to extract with tools you numbered,one of them must extract it...especially tango
regards Gepa
Thank u again. So i must read eeprom 24LC04 to get secret key?
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oeyek
22nd September, 2016, 11:48 PM
I will try and update.
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oeyek
23rd September, 2016, 04:04 PM
Hi Gepa.
I kept trying the auto detect in tango. Don't work.
I only can get a pg 3 reading of 8 bytes, when i select TIRIS 4D.
The rest shows pg 1: 00, pg 3:00, pg 3: 8 byte, pg 4: 00 00 00 00.
Regards
Oeyek
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oeyek
25th September, 2016, 02:48 AM
Anyone has an idea friends out there?
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ray-ray
25th September, 2016, 04:27 AM
Post your dump if tango can't do it, the brainexe. Will figure it out.
oeyek
25th September, 2016, 05:09 AM
I cannot get dump, sir. I'm just trying to clone it. No eeprom work involved, sir. Because customer not a all lost key situation
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gepakg
25th September, 2016, 12:01 PM
ok,try with effi,many times it read every page properly...
but without secret key you cant to this job
also if customer have this special wishes then he must go in official KTM service to do it and pay it :-) it is very cheap and quick in it :-)))))
regards Gepa
Anyone has an idea friends out there?
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oeyek
26th September, 2016, 04:43 PM
Ok...thanks effi i got it
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