PDA

View Full Version : Berlingo 2011 edc17C10 dpf / dtc need help



DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 11:55 AM
Hello,

need help for Citroen berlingo 2011 year 1,6hdi edc17C10 DPF/Fap off and dtc P0460 , P1434 and P1435 turn off .

399474

Thank you all for help.

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 12:03 PM
HI
Dpf remove or fault will not help you if you have fault of the additve Pump, 1434, you have to remove it from bsi+ecu by configuration,and then apply dpf remove.

DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 12:13 PM
in engine ecu NO FUNCTION for dpf,fap, multiplexe addtive pump turn off :/// only in BSi are i turn off but same all this 3 faults came in :/

so maybe someone can do dpf off and this faulty codes turn off and maybe in cluster not be engine light. Car working good no limp mode only this 3 faults :/

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 12:51 PM
If you remove from bsi is good, here DPF remove and Dtc

DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 02:03 PM
If you remove from bsi is good, here DPF remove and Dtc

1 - write your file
2 - car start's
3 - no faults
!!!!!!4!!!!!!!!!! but - in cluster blinking engine light's

how solve ?

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 02:08 PM
The regular check engine light or the one with !

DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 03:14 PM
when start engine - regular check engine light blinking > I try drive 5km but nothing same no faults and engine blinking :/ maybe bad turn off dtc or dtc?

399521< when you click on image you see how engine light blinking when i start engine.

LaraVAG
23rd September, 2016, 03:34 PM
you need additve off, not other way.
additve off allways in ECU, not in BSI

DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 03:52 PM
hello , yes this write me before ,but no > additive function in engine ecu , i search with lexia but no configuration function in this ecu only i can :
> gear box,dan blower, some sensor's reconfigurate ,but no multiplexe additive pump - fap function .
So how turn off additive in engine ecu ? me sent file but no result's (no faults engine light blinking) .

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 03:55 PM
Dpf is tested 100%, i done alot of this, but if you have Additve pump fault P1434, it will always return, you have 2 ways only to solve as i said before,
1.you put second hand additve pump, and all be ok and dpf off work.
2.you need to configure very good , to remove fap funcation from bsi+ecu,

if you had just dpf fault the regular 1445, so no problem, in psa the problem come when the pump signaling to the bsi.

DjRomeoR
23rd September, 2016, 04:12 PM
Dpf is tested 100%, i done alot of this, but if you have Additve pump fault P1434, it will always return, you have 2 ways only to solve as i said before,
1.you put second hand additve pump, and all be ok and dpf off work.
2.you need to configure very good , to remove fap funcation from bsi+ecu,

if you had just dpf fault the regular 1445, so no problem, in psa the problem come when the pump signaling to the bsi.

ok i think your file are good ,but how i must configurate ECU > in this ecu no functions about additive pump :/ I tryed old pump , and from other working car second hand pump ,same in engine are P1434-P1435 and i don't understand problem , i thinked it's bad dpf file ,but .... :/ and i can't find solution for this problem

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 04:18 PM
can you give me tv with daigbox connected to the car ?

mihaiservice
23rd September, 2016, 05:02 PM
Dont exist such configuration for all kind of euro 5 psa cars !

teamtuner
23rd September, 2016, 06:34 PM
write dpf off file
disconect conector from aditiv pump
read dtc
send the file from car to tuners to remove dtc from this file
and rewrite the dpf off+ dtc off
job done...all be happy

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 07:54 PM
Dont exist such configuration for all kind of euro 5 psa cars !

why you speaking on something that sure you never did if you said "not exsit", P1434 will not work with dpf remove and dtc, and i done too many for i count them euro5, if you want next time you when you have car like that i can show you how "dont exsit such" will be exsit.

teamtuner
23rd September, 2016, 08:13 PM
why you speaking on something that sure you never did if you said "not exsit", P1434 will not work with dpf remove and dtc, and i done too many for i count them euro5, if you want next time you when you have car like that i can show you how "dont exsit such" will be exsit.
you can explain here mate...we are a comunity here...
and we know verry well this diagbox to play with him...

mihaiservice
23rd September, 2016, 08:50 PM
I am very sure about CAN configuration on PSA cars !

draganelektricar
23rd September, 2016, 09:31 PM
hi. dpf off, the checksum is not done.

Act Tuning
23rd September, 2016, 09:39 PM
I am very sure about CAN configuration on PSA cars !

I am sure , but the additive pump is LIN comunication not can-bus, and it signal to the bsi that talk with the ecu, so if you remove from ecu its ok, the problem maintain cause Pump on Lin com to Bsi, see faulty pump on com, and send fault to the dash, now is more clear why its happen, and why is not related to any ecu solutio ??

mihaiservice
23rd September, 2016, 10:18 PM
Hi

Are you sure about LIN BUS ? Even if someone will cut LIN BUS wire and bsi are recode it w/o additiv pump but still will get message in display from ecu via CAN BUS!
Few days ago Mr.Bobolin4o have ask for 3 times how can be check it fuel pressure on vag pd engine but he dont have get any answer....

gttuning
23rd September, 2016, 10:26 PM
Is always better if you not sure just say..im not sure..


Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Act Tuning
24th September, 2016, 07:56 AM
Hi

Are you sure about LIN BUS ? Even if someone will cut LIN BUS wire and bsi are recode it w/o additiv pump but still will get message in display from ecu via CAN BUS!
Few days ago Mr.Bobolin4o have ask for 3 times how can be check it fuel pressure on vag pd engine but he dont have get any answer....

Affcourse is am sure, i didnt say cut wires, no need, you need or replace with a good pump or configure the bsi, and about Babo :) oi, i decide not to answer him from from my ressons, but i answer to you, on pd you can check hp pressure with a gauge and adapter, to see if the pump making enought pressure,some times it failed mechanical and not software, i never said obd , he said.

mihaiservice
24th September, 2016, 08:12 AM
Cant understand the reason why its need to replace addtiv pump if dpf alreadyare mising in car,next time try to upload some screenshot for such solution...not for me just for someone who want to "learn" your bypass method !
About vag pd engine you have said to check value with "diagnostic tool" !

DjRomeoR
24th September, 2016, 08:13 AM
Hello again all

I get working file ,but left one more fault code P0460 maybe someone can help me for this dtc off?

399608 < need delete P0460 fault code - additive pump maltifunction.

Thank you.

Act Tuning
24th September, 2016, 08:29 AM
Cant understand the reason why its need to replace addtiv pump if dpf alreadyare mising in car,next time try to upload some screenshot for such solution...not for me just for someone who want to "learn" your bypass method !
About vag pd engine you have said to check value with "diagnostic tool" !

I know we are draging here but i cant stand when member lie, here is what is say from the post , show me where i say check hp with "diagnostic",
check the IQ and log them is not hp,

teamtuner
24th September, 2016, 09:07 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Act Tuning http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2849684#post2849684)
I recommand you to log the car and check the IQ when you rev with hot start and monitoe the the HP presuure too what is doing,



And how actually he can to monitor the HP pressure?
Regards!

ughuh...excuse me...to log with what if not with diag tool?
about what we talking about mate?
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/548529-touran-2-0-sw1037400902/page2

Act Tuning
24th September, 2016, 09:20 AM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Act Tuning http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/styles/DarkCore/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2849684#post2849684)
I recommand you to log the car and check the IQ when you rev with hot start and monitoe the the HP presuure too what is doing,



And how actually he can to monitor the HP pressure?
Regards!

ughuh...excuse me...to log with what if not with diag tool?
about what we talking about mate?
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/548529-touran-2-0-sw1037400902/page2

Simpale, i said check the log the IQ if it command some numbers, and monitor the Hp pump (with a guage) i didnt think that i need to say this as this is "Tuner Thread" and it so clear that i meant with a guage, its so clearly i didnt tought that i need to say or add this cause every 1 month workshop know that, Now in the same car , if i tell you to monitor air pressure in the tires, i need also to tell you that you need to do it with a gauge, or you will ask via "diagnostic " cause in the start of the sentense i say check IQ from ecu,

Act Tuning
24th September, 2016, 10:27 AM
As requasted P0460 delete, i hope you will solved with new solution, keep are posted,

DjRomeoR
24th September, 2016, 11:48 AM
Hi , i tryed your file but wont work.
Now in ecu no fault P0460 but i get in display " Engine sistem faulty" and in cluster like before are light
399643< like this .

mihaiservice
24th September, 2016, 03:10 PM
Welcome in the club !

DjRomeoR
24th September, 2016, 03:17 PM
Thanks.

But i dont understand if BSI - fap turned off .
ECU dpf off and additive pump turned off > why in cluster came this yelow light?

mihaiservice
24th September, 2016, 04:58 PM
For all kind of cars are "power train" CAN BUS,in you case ecu are sendind mesage to dispalay !
If you want to disable this kind of message just edit additiv strategy in ecu and mesage all mesage related to addiv pump/tank/module will be history !

DjRomeoR
24th September, 2016, 06:29 PM
For all kind of cars are "power train" CAN BUS,in you case ecu are sendind mesage to dispalay !
If you want to disable this kind of message just edit additiv strategy in ecu and mesage all mesage related to addiv pump/tank/module will be history !

So how other people turn off dpf and additive pump ? how magprog,swiftec,kess turn off this car, how you say turn off can bus ? first time i heard about what coding in engine :/

gttuning
24th September, 2016, 06:46 PM
So how other people turn off dpf and additive pump ? how magprog,swiftec,kess turn off this car, how you say turn off can bus ? first time i heard about what coding in engine :/
Magpro..kess..turn off dpf?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

DjRomeoR
24th September, 2016, 07:10 PM
magprog yes have this function but need buy tool from whem very expensive :// ok nevermind.

So some one done this citroen berlingo 1.6hdi 2011year edc17C10 <??
me need turn off dpf/additive pump....(dtc off - P1434/P1435/P0460) because i off from BSI multiplexe additive pump and Fap functions and in BSi all ok are only one fault : OIl level sensor.
but in engine are this 3 fault code's i try 4 files turned off , but when i write one of this files in engine NO faults , but after start engine 1min work in cluster sho's triangle yelow and wont disapear :/ i test after what and in ECU - BSI no faults. So if someone haved what situation please write how solved or pm me I can pay money if solution REALLY working.

thank you.

gttuning
24th September, 2016, 08:30 PM
magprog yes have this function but need buy tool from whem very expensive :// ok nevermind.

So some one done this citroen berlingo 1.6hdi 2011year edc17C10 <??
me need turn off dpf/additive pump....(dtc off - P1434/P1435/P0460) because i off from BSI multiplexe additive pump and Fap functions and in BSi all ok are only one fault : OIl level sensor.
but in engine are this 3 fault code's i try 4 files turned off , but when i write one of this files in engine NO faults , but after start engine 1min work in cluster sho's triangle yelow and wont disapear :/ i test after what and in ECU - BSI no faults. So if someone haved what situation please write how solved or pm me I can pay money if solution REALLY working.

thank you.
Did you try to turn off and on ignition few times i had a berlingo one day and after dtc off triangle was on the dash but after few ignition on off never come back.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

immokill
25th September, 2016, 04:52 PM
I have same problem with peugeot 308 . Triangle on dash and engine fault on display . I configure with diagbox in bsi no fap and no aditive pump but triangle didnt goes off. I will send file from ecu it is edc17c10 1.6hdi .

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

immokill
25th September, 2016, 04:54 PM
Friend from PSA told me to reset aditive to zero I will try and report.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

smirnoff_rules
25th September, 2016, 05:06 PM
you mean zero it then remove ?

Act Tuning
25th September, 2016, 05:36 PM
Friend from PSA told me to reset aditive to zero I will try and report.

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk

It will not help, dont bother.
Reset you do when you dpf off P1445, so before you wrote file you reset , that it will not show on screen fill.

teamtuner
25th September, 2016, 07:14 PM
maybe this will help you all better...what need to work inside aditiv pump

DjRomeoR
26th September, 2016, 06:13 AM
Thank you all for help , but if in BSI are one fault code : Engine oil level detected. If this error will be in BSi and in cluster show triangle light? need remove this fault code and all will be fine? because in engine ecu no fault's and all service reset 2-3 times don't helped.

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 08:11 AM
Friend , if you want give me tv to check your system, and try to help you fix it, load diagbox and connect to the car.

DjRomeoR
26th September, 2016, 08:49 AM
Hello, yes would be nice ,but now friend in vocation so need wait until he came back and give me a car i will tell you and you could look in what citroen .

LaraVAG
26th September, 2016, 09:14 AM
No need to change configuration, FULL OFF FAP + ADDITIVE = NO DTC, NO CHECK, NO LIMP MODE only in flash from ECU.

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 09:36 AM
No need to change configuration, FULL OFF FAP + ADDITIVE = NO DTC, NO CHECK, NO LIMP MODE only in flash from ECU.

Do you know how Psa dpf working ?? do you know how Additive pump work on psa ?? i supose no, if you have P1445 dpf fault only in flash, but if you have P1434 Pump comunication fault, is not comunicate with the ECU so how you want to flash ecu and solved P1434, Pump sending message on LIN to bsi, and who is trigring the dash and faut is BSI and not ecu, so please dont let member to get things in WRONG way if you not sure how system it work , i done to many psa edc17 p1445 and P1434 , and i dont count anymore, but nice signture.

LaraVAG
26th September, 2016, 01:37 PM
if you have no knowledge about it, you better not take the voice because it is ridiculed. This is something that You can not does not mean that it is not possible

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 01:43 PM
if you have no knowledge about it, you better not take the voice because it is ridiculed. This is something that You can not does not mean that it is not possible

I saw who has no knowladge here, if you say you can from ecu flash disable P1434 Additvie feul pump comunication, haahahaa so funy i fall from my chair cause of you, Additivie pump not going or not talking with ecu, so how you can from ecu flsh disable it, delete code ? you can but bsi will alret this fault no ecu, so you can remove ecu from car and have this fault, Coprendeea ?? that you have alot of lines in signture not mean you understand more, cause now i understand you dont have a clue how this system work!!!

LaraVAG
26th September, 2016, 01:45 PM
Use damos about edc17c10 PSA and you will see. You can full off with disconnet plug from Additive.

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 02:00 PM
Use damos about edc17c10 PSA and you will see. You can full off with disconnet plug from Additive.

On this i am agree with you, you can disable additive from ecu no problem, but when you got fault P1434 it goes on LIN bus to bsi, and this is what will alret dash with check engine and Triangle shape, on ecu will not have fault, but on bsi yes.

LaraVAG
26th September, 2016, 02:12 PM
belive me you are wrong.

absetup
26th September, 2016, 06:03 PM
I have a freind who can do this , so i asked him and he told me that we can't configure bsi anymore only dealer can do it by online telecoding, so he write the dpf off in ecu then send the client do dealer to remove additive fonction from bsi.


Envoy? de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

teamtuner
26th September, 2016, 06:19 PM
only bla bla here
dpf off file ok
dtc off ok
make mod to aditve pump like i posted
reset aditiv with diagbox 3 liters (fictional reset)
with mod on the pump,will rest for ever 3 liters aditiv for bsi
job done ...finish bla bla

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 06:20 PM
I have a freind who can do this , so i asked him and he told me that we can't configure bsi anymore only dealer can do it by online telecoding, so he write the dpf off in ecu then send the client do dealer to remove additive fonction from bsi.


Envoy? de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

Guys you have to stop with the jokes, first i do it with diagbox, second if you go to dealer and do Online Telcode (if you know how psa work) its go online and take vin and OPR number from the car and code it with factory settings, as when it go from factory, and this is how Online coding work, that why if you want change something you do it Offline and not Online, tell you friend to check his daigbox version.

Act Tuning
26th September, 2016, 06:22 PM
only bla bla here
dpf off file ok
dtc off ok
make mod to aditve pump like i posted
reset aditiv with diagbox 3 liters (fictional reset)
with mod on the pump,will rest for ever 3 liters aditiv for bsi
job done ...finish bla bla

Do you know what P1434 it mean ?? when you say reset with 3 liters, i recommand for to read first what is the fault code means.

absetup
26th September, 2016, 07:59 PM
Guys you have to stop with the jokes, first i do it with diagbox, second if you go to dealer and do Online Telcode (if you know how psa work) its go online and take vin and OPR number from the car and code it with factory settings, as when it go from factory, and this is how Online coding work, that why if you want change something you do it Offline and not Online, tell you friend to check his daigbox version.

1st i'm not joking i'm telling you what my freind told me.
2nd in my country there we don't use additiv's and adblue... So dealer here can remove dpf .
3rd be calm man here we are learning

teamtuner
27th September, 2016, 07:45 AM
Do you know what P1434 it mean ?? when you say reset with 3 liters, i recommand for to read first what is the fault code means.
i think that untill you don"t register into this forum,all of us only broken cars...and now,you,the big specialist ,try to teach us how to repair...mate...do your job and finish with bla bla...untill now from all your post,nobody can learn anything

P1434 A/C Refrigerant temperature circuit High

https://www.mavericktechnology.co.uk/technical/peugeot-citroen-psa-specific-dtc-fault-codes

Act Tuning
27th September, 2016, 08:16 AM
i think that untill you don"t register into this forum,all of us only broken cars...and now,you,the big specialist ,try to teach us how to repair...mate...do your job and finish with bla bla...untill now from all your post,nobody can learn anything

beside bla bla , can you understand more then bla bla, i didnt saw you the big specialit give here any knowladge or help for the problem beside, or show any knowladge on this subject, beside speaking bulshit, do your job and dont take it personal if someone understand some subject more then you,

Johnner
27th September, 2016, 08:27 AM
Girls...lower your handbags please ;)

Thank you...

gttuning
27th September, 2016, 08:27 AM
I think this thread coming to end soon.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Act Tuning
27th September, 2016, 08:48 AM
i think that untill you don"t register into this forum,all of us only broken cars...and now,you,the big specialist ,try to teach us how to repair...mate...do your job and finish with bla bla...untill now from all your post,nobody can learn anything

P1434 A/C Refrigerant temperature circuit High

https://www.mavericktechnology.co.uk/technical/peugeot-citroen-psa-specific-dtc-fault-codes

And you see the diffrent betwen us, and diffrent from pro to amtuer, you work on web and quate P1434 from site that is a/c pressure switch, and now you just show me you dont understand nothing, as you said "P1434 A/C Refrigerant temperature circuit High" :giveup:

teamtuner
27th September, 2016, 09:02 AM
And you see the diffrent betwen us, and diffrent from pro to amtuer, you work on web and quate P1434 from site that is a/c pressure switch, and now you just show me you dont understand nothing, as you said "P1434 A/C Refrigerant temperature circuit High" :giveup:
as i remeber well...i have experience 13 years on PSA world network...and i see that you insist that you know about...but sorry...better to do what Johner said...let down the arms...and forget all

Act Tuning
27th September, 2016, 09:27 AM
as i remeber well...i have experience 13 years on PSA world network...and i see that you insist that you know about...but sorry...better to do what Johner said...let down the arms...and forget all

I dont insist, if 13 year on psa as you tell, and you dont know what is the meaning P1434 Code ?? dont throw on me your lake of knowladge, you want me to upload for you the decription of P1434 that you can learn what is mean, as you said "A/C sensor" :)

teamtuner
27th September, 2016, 10:01 AM
I dont insist, if 13 year on psa as you tell, and you dont know what is the meaning P1434 Code ?? dont throw on me your lake of knowladge, you want me to upload for you the decription of P1434 that you can learn what is mean, as you said "A/C sensor" :)
yes please...i will learn

Act Tuning
27th September, 2016, 10:45 AM
yes please...i will learn

Here is the fault and what it mean, for you and for every one.

DjRomeoR
27th September, 2016, 01:00 PM
only bla bla here
dpf off file ok
dtc off ok
make mod to aditve pump like i posted
reset aditiv with diagbox 3 liters (fictional reset)
with mod on the pump,will rest for ever 3 liters aditiv for bsi
job done ...finish bla bla


em i done in bsi ,engine ecu all service reset not helped :/

mihaiservice
27th September, 2016, 09:19 PM
No offence Mr.DjRomeoR...but the only one think what you have to do are to write the correct dpf off file ! Dont need any kind of bsi conding or any other miracle !

smirnoff_rules
27th September, 2016, 09:22 PM
you say here this is the only fault now , this cant be anything to do with dpf off can it ?

Thank you all for help , but if in BSI are one fault code : Engine oil level detected. If this error will be in BSi and in cluster show triangle light? need remove this fault code and all will be fine? because in engine ecu no fault's and all service reset 2-3 times don't helped.

vcidont
27th September, 2016, 10:59 PM
Has anybody got a solution or is it impossible on edc17c10?

DjRomeoR
1st October, 2016, 02:27 PM
you say here this is the only fault now , this cant be anything to do with dpf off can it ?

no, because before dpf off file writing was this fault code in BSI ,and after writing left this fault code in BSI :/

teamtuner
1st October, 2016, 03:00 PM
no, because before dpf off file writing was this fault code in BSI ,and after writing left this fault code in BSI :/
this dtc don"t light nothing into your dash...never...maybe file dpf off that you use is not ok....as mike_service said...use a proffessional file and all will be ok...and into all this dialog,there is one proffessional user that can do this...

DjRomeoR
6th October, 2016, 09:46 AM
this dtc don"t light nothing into your dash...never...maybe file dpf off that you use is not ok....as mike_service said...use a proffessional file and all will be ok...and into all this dialog,there is one proffessional user that can do this...


yes i think file are bad dpf off because , I tested all files and triangle same light's in cluster ,but now not here is problem ,but after 100-80 km from car came white smoke ,but after 2-3min again all ok ?
who can help me with good file off ? i can pay if file helped me .

immokill
18th October, 2016, 04:53 PM
hi i send file from 308 edc17c10 i need DPF OFF TESTED AND I wil make config in bsi

pease help

I readed it with c K-TAG
hanks

Regards

mapexo
7th May, 2018, 08:50 PM
I resume topic to know how the problem of the pump has been solved

Act Tuning
7th May, 2018, 11:06 PM
With proper mod file, you just need to flash and solve, no need to config bsi or other method.

pike
8th May, 2018, 09:26 AM
I resume topic to know how the problem of the pump has been solved

Hi,
You will not have much difficulty comparing file in which there is no additive system.