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Fernandowap
28th April, 2019, 04:26 PM
I did not participate in the automotive fair, only a few escort keyrings, are present and posted this photo and a video.


Video x100 pad2, read and edit a transponder, using this new interface.


I have the video here, plus if I post moderators can believe it to be Span

ps80l
29th April, 2019, 11:05 PM
Correct that why I’m staying away, regrouping myself. There is a very strong update coming once the dust settles.

I heard they were finally cleaning up the menus. Getting rid of all foreign vehicles and making it actually the the US product they promised several years ago.... USA...USA...USA!!

ps80l
2nd May, 2019, 07:30 AM
Finally get updates....
Excited to try them out...get to Mitsubishi and it fails, ck100 takes care of it....xtool should be embarrassed..
Today I tried a 2016 F150 prox and the year is missing from menu...lol. I go into auto and it manages to find right system and gets job done.

N54TS
2nd May, 2019, 04:59 PM
Finally get updates....
Excited to try them out...get to Mitsubishi and it fails, ck100 takes care of it....xtool should be embarrassed..
Today I tried a 2016 F150 prox and the year is missing from menu...lol. I go into auto and it manages to find right system and gets job done.

I've definitely had my share of issues on Mitsubishi with the APP. It'll say successful programming even when it's not. I started only using OEM keys on these and that stopped my problems so far.

If a device like the CK100 can do something that the APP cannot, that's a huge fail on XTools part.

ray-ray
2nd May, 2019, 05:01 PM
You see I have not left the project things do get better. My problem is that now everyone wants a piece of the pie.

N54TS
2nd May, 2019, 06:25 PM
You see I have not left the project things do get better. My problem is that now everyone wants a piece of the pie.

As said before, thank you for your work. It's a shame the companies thought process isn't the same as yours.

camelgd
4th May, 2019, 01:21 AM
Dumb question time .... Bent pin in the 16 pin obd head on my ps80. Will obd head from other programmers be compatible such as x100 tool? It is the same type of connector on cable side and of course has 16 pin on other end. Anyone?

sleepyrz
4th May, 2019, 02:45 PM
mitsubishi seems to be the brand that most key programmers fall short on



whats the deal with that anyway????

anybody got any insight as to why?

mojomojo
9th May, 2019, 07:52 AM
updates are in effect!! many updates have benn rolling out!!!
2017 malibu read pin code and program key ok
2018 f150 program key ok


this is such an excellent tool especially with the extra functions its has.. you have done a great job witb this ray

DigitalBacon
9th May, 2019, 09:38 PM
mitsubishi seems to be the brand that most key programmers fall short on



whats the deal with that anyway????

anybody got any insight as to why?

Same questions myself, I get tons of Mitsubishi and can't do a lot of the new ones. I personally own a Outlander 2015, been playing around with it(until I break it, I guess). When we fail to program a key I send it to one dude that makes most of those around here, saw that they use abrites the other day on a mirage 2015, so planning on getting one soon just for Mitsubishi, not that expensive comparted to other modules which are crazy expensive.

milehighlockdoc
9th May, 2019, 10:00 PM
I just did a 2016 outlander the other day with no problems. All keys lost. Non remote Mit17.

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milehighlockdoc
9th May, 2019, 10:03 PM
Dumb question time .... Bent pin in the 16 pin obd head on my ps80. Will obd head from other programmers be compatible such as x100 tool? It is the same type of connector on cable side and of course has 16 pin on other end. Anyone?I just bent mine back but it wasn't bent too bad. You'd have to try to know for sure. I want to try to use my APP with the bluetooth adapter from the x100c or x100 pad or auto pro pad lite. I don't like the main cable too much.

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camelgd
9th May, 2019, 11:58 PM
In the meantime, I did a little experimenting, the x100 head works just fine. My x100 was dead anyway from a broken screen, at least I got to use the head. I suspect maxidas 708 will work also, will try it next. I worked the Denver Metro area from 88-91, by the way.

ps80l
10th May, 2019, 12:48 AM
if you guys know anyone who wants to be a pro with Lishi. I started a course where I'm teaching all my tricks hands on. ;-)

www.lishicourse.com

ray-ray
10th May, 2019, 04:40 AM
I should practice it been a minute.. the Subaru “H” chip was released give a try.

keysmith
10th May, 2019, 05:11 AM
When does the APP 1 year clock start? The first time you turn it on, program first car, register it or update it?

AndriyM6
10th May, 2019, 03:52 PM
I should practice it been a minute.. the Subaru “H” chip was released give a try.Add key or AKL?

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ray-ray
10th May, 2019, 03:57 PM
First day of activation >>365day + 30day grace period. That how to prolong it.

N54TS
10th May, 2019, 09:44 PM
First day of activation >>365day + 30day grace period. That how to prolong it.

Will the APP program an additional key into a 2017+ Dodge Promaster cargo van? Customer has 6 of these that need spares made.

sleepyrz
10th May, 2019, 10:12 PM
Clone it ???

N54TS
11th May, 2019, 03:08 PM
Clone it ???

Good point! CN3 and CN900 should be able to handle this one I assume?

esx503
12th May, 2019, 01:37 AM
Hey Ray Ray I see a lot of questions about the differences between the ps80 ps90 and other variation of the tool but I couldn't find the differences between the $2000 AutoProPad on AKS and the x100 pad2 pro for $900 found on eBay and other sites it looks the same and looks like they have the same functions what is the advantage of the Autopropad over the x100 pad2 pro? Why so much of a price difference? Thanks.

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sleepyrz
12th May, 2019, 02:59 AM
just recently completed:
1. Acura/Honda (sync ecu &a immo, Ariel sync) 2016 all lost smart key.
2. Chrysler ( pcm vin rewrite, wynn vin & pin rewrite, 4 & 5 digit pin read via obd2, micropad programming)
3. Ford ( parameter reset, quick reset all lost keys, door pad pin read 05-17 ,2013-16 Fusion bypass)
4. Lexus/Toyota ( eeprom virgin dumps to all models, also ready to start toyota g quick reset no 16 minute wait )
5. Infinity/Nissan( improve pin read 08/09, bypass 20 better guide on programming proxy, remote function added)
6. Gm (remote section added, pin read add new system

Ford PATS4 & PATS5 10-Minute Bypassworking
Ford Parameter Resetworking
Voltage Detection
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN Read (EEPROM)working
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Keyless Entry Keypad Code Readworking
Nissan BCM to PIN Conversion: Supports the old 5-digit BCM as well as the new 20-digit BCM found in 2013 and later Nissans and Infinitis.working
Ford HEC & PATS2 10-Minute Bypass: Skip right on through the normal 10-minute wait.working
Hyundai & Kia Old & New PIN Code Read: No more buying PINs from the dealerworking
Ford Fusion 2013+ System Rolling Code Bypass (No NASTF Needed)working
Toyota G-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Waitworking
Jeep/Chrysler/Fiat New System PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Complete Chrysler CAN PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Honda 2017 Proximity System Programming working

Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming coming soon
Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter Bypass & Programming coming soon
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) Programming coming soon
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter coming soon
2005 VW Touareg?????
Toyota H-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait not sure of status


i think these are some of the differences mostly

esx503
12th May, 2019, 03:17 AM
just recently completed:
1. Acura/Honda (sync ecu &a immo, Ariel sync) 2016 all lost smart key.
2. Chrysler ( pcm vin rewrite, wynn vin & pin rewrite, 4 & 5 digit pin read via obd2, micropad programming)
3. Ford ( parameter reset, quick reset all lost keys, door pad pin read 05-17 ,2013-16 Fusion bypass)
4. Lexus/Toyota ( eeprom virgin dumps to all models, also ready to start toyota g quick reset no 16 minute wait )
5. Infinity/Nissan( improve pin read 08/09, bypass 20 better guide on programming proxy, remote function added)
6. Gm (remote section added, pin read add new system

Ford PATS4 & PATS5 10-Minute Bypassworking
Ford Parameter Resetworking
Voltage Detection
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN Read (EEPROM)working
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury Keyless Entry Keypad Code Readworking
Nissan BCM to PIN Conversion: Supports the old 5-digit BCM as well as the new 20-digit BCM found in 2013 and later Nissans and Infinitis.working
Ford HEC & PATS2 10-Minute Bypass: Skip right on through the normal 10-minute wait.working
Hyundai & Kia Old & New PIN Code Read: No more buying PINs from the dealerworking
Ford Fusion 2013+ System Rolling Code Bypass (No NASTF Needed)working
Toyota G-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Waitworking
Jeep/Chrysler/Fiat New System PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Complete Chrysler CAN PIN Reading & Programmingworking
Honda 2017 Proximity System Programming working

Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming coming soon
Dodge/Mercedes Sprinter Bypass & Programming coming soon
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) Programming coming soon
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter coming soon
2005 VW Touareg?????
Toyota H-Chip Programming w/ No 16-Minute Wait not sure of status


i think these are some of the differences mostly
My question though, doesn't the x100 have those functions as well? And any hope for fem/bdc ? I read somewhere on the thread that it would be coming soon to the APP.

Also those are the same options added back in 2017, 2 years ago from when you first posted it on this thread. I believe it's post #71 Thanks

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sleepyrz
12th May, 2019, 03:34 AM
My question though, doesn't the x100 have those functions as well?



NO





And any hope for fem/bdc ? I read somewhere on the thread that it would be coming soon to the APP.

Also those are the same options added back in 2017, 2 years ago from when you first posted it on this thread. I believe it's post #71


yes and there has been more added since then



heres a slightly more current list of whats going on




BMW CAS 1, 2 & 3 key programming
Chrysler / Jeep / Fiat new system PIN reading & programming
Chrysler CAN PIN reading & programming
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN read via EEPROM
Ford 128-Bit add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Ford Fusion 2013+ system rolling code bypass (no NASTF needed)
Ford 10-Minute bypass on all-keys-lost for all Ford systems: Bypass the normal 10-minute wait.
Ford parameter reset
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury keyless entry keypad code read
GM PIN code reading
GM Remote Programming
Honda 2017 proximity system programming
Honda transponder programming: Super-quick!
Hyundai & Kia old PIN codes: converts VIN to PIN for 2007 and older
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: No more buying PINs from the dealer (smart keys)
Nissan BCM to PIN conversion: Supports the 5-digit and 20-digit BCMs
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Toyota H-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota G-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota/Lexus proximity system 6 & 7 programming all-keys-lost & add-a-key (ie. 2017 Toyota CH-R & Prius Prime)
VW/Audi 2013-2016 programming for add-a-key
VW Touareg 2005
Chrysler Pacifica 2016+
Volvo key programming (2008-2015 select models/non-prox)
Maserati key programming (2015-2017 Quattro Forte & Ghibli)



AutoProPAD New Features Releasing Soon:
Lock Labs engineers are continuously working on more vehicles and features! Here's what we know so far, but we expect this list to grow.


Audi/VW 2013-2016 programming for all-keys-lost (coming Q1 2019)
Chrysler Type2 PIN read via OBD2 (coming Q4 2018)
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: (slot keys) (coming Q1 2019)
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM in-circuitprogramming w/ adapter (coming 2019)
Transponder motorcycle programming (coming 2019)
EEPROM key value reading/editing from BIN dump (coming Q4 2018)
Remote unlocking w/adapter (coming 2019)
BMW FEM module key programming via EEPROM (coming 2019)
BMW CAS3+ (coming 2019)
Fiat 500/Dodge Promaster/Promaster City key programming (coming Q4 2018)
Full PIN read for all 2017-2018 GMC vehicles (coming Q4 2018)





IS THE AUTOPROPAD THE SAME AS OTHER XTOOL PRODUCTS?

This is different than other XTool machines you may see on sale in other countries. The AutoProPAD is the ONLY XTool machine made for locksmiths in the US market and includes extra OBD2 and EEPROM software specific to United States vehicles. The cheaper devices such as the PS80, PS90, X100PAD, or X100 have some of the same hardware but mainly perform only the vehicle diagnostic functions that an auto shop might use. For instance, if you purchase a PS80 (instead of an AutoProPAD), you will not be able to program Nissans with 20-digit BCM, Ford Fusion without NASTF, Toyota G, Toyota H, Toyota Smart Keys, Chrysler 200 systems, most Chrysler PIN code reads, VW/Audi programming, Honda Prox, and many others

esx503
12th May, 2019, 04:03 AM
NO







yes and there has been more added since then



heres a slightly more current list of whats going on




BMW CAS 1, 2 & 3 key programming
Chrysler / Jeep / Fiat new system PIN reading & programming
Chrysler CAN PIN reading & programming
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN read via EEPROM
Ford 128-Bit add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Ford Fusion 2013+ system rolling code bypass (no NASTF needed)
Ford 10-Minute bypass on all-keys-lost for all Ford systems: Bypass the normal 10-minute wait.
Ford parameter reset
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury keyless entry keypad code read
GM PIN code reading
GM Remote Programming
Honda 2017 proximity system programming
Honda transponder programming: Super-quick!
Hyundai & Kia old PIN codes: converts VIN to PIN for 2007 and older
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: No more buying PINs from the dealer (smart keys)
Nissan BCM to PIN conversion: Supports the 5-digit and 20-digit BCMs
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Toyota H-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota G-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota/Lexus proximity system 6 & 7 programming all-keys-lost & add-a-key (ie. 2017 Toyota CH-R & Prius Prime)
VW/Audi 2013-2016 programming for add-a-key
VW Touareg 2005
Chrysler Pacifica 2016+
Volvo key programming (2008-2015 select models/non-prox)
Maserati key programming (2015-2017 Quattro Forte & Ghibli)



AutoProPAD New Features Releasing Soon:
Lock Labs engineers are continuously working on more vehicles and features! Here's what we know so far, but we expect this list to grow.


Audi/VW 2013-2016 programming for all-keys-lost (coming Q1 2019)
Chrysler Type2 PIN read via OBD2 (coming Q4 2018)
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: (slot keys) (coming Q1 2019)
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM in-circuitprogramming w/ adapter (coming 2019)
Transponder motorcycle programming (coming 2019)
EEPROM key value reading/editing from BIN dump (coming Q4 2018)
Remote unlocking w/adapter (coming 2019)
BMW FEM module key programming via EEPROM (coming 2019)
BMW CAS3+ (coming 2019)
Fiat 500/Dodge Promaster/Promaster City key programming (coming Q4 2018)
Full PIN read for all 2017-2018 GMC vehicles (coming Q4 2018)





IS THE AUTOPROPAD THE SAME AS OTHER XTOOL PRODUCTS?

This is different than other XTool machines you may see on sale in other countries. The AutoProPAD is the ONLY XTool machine made for locksmiths in the US market and includes extra OBD2 and EEPROM software specific to United States vehicles. The cheaper devices such as the PS80, PS90, X100PAD, or X100 have some of the same hardware but mainly perform only the vehicle diagnostic functions that an auto shop might use. For instance, if you purchase a PS80 (instead of an AutoProPAD), you will not be able to program Nissans with 20-digit BCM, Ford Fusion without NASTF, Toyota G, Toyota H, Toyota Smart Keys, Chrysler 200 systems, most Chrysler PIN code reads, VW/Audi programming, Honda Prox, and many othersGreat I was starting to feel my recent purchase with aks was a bad move when I could've went with one of the cheaper version but you def gave me some reassurance. I was having problems programming Ford vehicles with my smartbox and I decided to upgrade to the APP.

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ray-ray
12th May, 2019, 05:16 AM
Welcome the tool is my work in progress great investment (you own it , no lease token BS).

labusas
12th May, 2019, 03:59 PM
Hi, Ray-ray
I had add a key job Ford Transit 150 and failed. It tried to communicate, I see dash flickers. Job was done with IDS. Can this be fixed?

ray-ray
13th May, 2019, 03:19 AM
I’ll check it out 2016 ? Transit

labusas
14th May, 2019, 12:21 AM
Hi, yes 16 or 17, but should be same system

lwood
19th May, 2019, 03:26 AM
Hello could autopropad program for 2017-2019 toyota smart keys. Add keys and all keys lost?

ps80l
19th May, 2019, 05:20 AM
2001 Jeep G. Cherokee
APP = Fail to add key

CK100 took care of it. Wow!!!

sleepyrz
19th May, 2019, 08:27 PM
whaaaaaaat

sleepyrz
20th May, 2019, 08:39 AM
Hello could autopropad program for 2017-2019 toyota smart keys. Add keys and all keys lost?


which ones?

most yes

definitely

2019..............theres a few weirdos in there so not all of them yet

lwood
20th May, 2019, 07:03 PM
which ones?

most yes

definitely

2019..............theres a few weirdos in there so not all of them yet
prius, tacoma, sienna, corolla

ray-ray
20th May, 2019, 09:20 PM
New system proxy started with 2019 corolla hatch back (aes 4E) Proxy. (Not Reuse-able)
Rav4 new proxy 128bit hitag2 8E (re use able) can communicate but are timing is off, needs work!

lwood
20th May, 2019, 10:53 PM
what is the difference between AutoProPad and AutoProPad Lite?

ray-ray
21st May, 2019, 03:51 AM
Lite>no camera, no Eeprom ,no kc100 transponder pre cloned tool. Just simple auto key programmer.

lwood
21st May, 2019, 06:53 PM
hello. guys. does anyone have a Coupon code for American Key Supply. i am about to buy the AutoProPad. if you do can you please IM me please. and thank


edit. will the ADC-2011 Cable work with AutoProPad?? https://www.clksupplies.com/products/cdj-smartpro-cable-adc-2011

esx503
21st May, 2019, 10:22 PM
2009 Genesis 4dr push to start. Customer replaced ECU with a used one. I tried to program the key with APP and I'm getting this error after it tells me to put key in slot. Does anyone know if what I'm trying to do can be done to start the car? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190521/c85bba90355c2e0b2bf01a8c6087dafe.jpg

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ray-ray
22nd May, 2019, 02:32 PM
F2 if you want to change the color of the car. Takes about 2 second for the paint to dry. (Used computer donor has its own vin,pincode, and key)...

esx503
22nd May, 2019, 05:41 PM
F2 if you want to change the color of the car. Takes about 2 second for the paint to dry. (Used computer donor has its own vin,pincode, and key)...Lol ok. So a brand new unprogrammed key will work for this?

Also how can I retrieve the security pin code

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ray-ray
23rd May, 2019, 04:58 AM
Contacts!! Friend at the dealer if the APP can’t pull the pin.

esx503
26th May, 2019, 03:30 AM
I've been making keys left and right with APP not missing a beat so smooth and easy to use. I'm happy with the investment

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ray-ray
26th May, 2019, 03:54 AM
Good info, keep me on my toes...

keysmith
27th May, 2019, 03:59 PM
Just got my three APPL from Mo at AKS, looking forward to trying the new F2 function, how do you chose the color? :biggrin:

camelgd
28th May, 2019, 12:27 AM
Alt contol delete to remove old paint F2/ color for new color.

N54TS
28th May, 2019, 05:29 PM
Is there a way to make the car manufacturer logos appears instead of the words on the home screen?

keysmith
3rd June, 2019, 09:35 PM
What is so special about this discounted model?

ps80l
3rd June, 2019, 10:09 PM
Is there a way to make the car manufacturer logos appears instead of the words on the home screen?

This?
https://i.ibb.co/xLxjLYS/20190603-140235-1-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/54b84kW)

ray-ray
4th June, 2019, 04:30 AM
Basic AutoProPad was made to kill the ikey820.. just Immobilizer system to current with no Eeprom or diagnostic features. Was made to be use in Mexico with lower price.

sleepyrz
4th June, 2019, 06:22 PM
ah ok so the difference between the lite and the basic is the diagnostic capabilities then???


autopropad

everything plus kitchen sink

autopropad lite

no eeprom
no remote unlocking(do you even have this??????)
no chip stuff


autopropad basic

no eeprom
no remote unlocking(do you even have this??????)
no chip stuff
no diagnostics




sound about right????

guillermemosz
5th June, 2019, 12:24 AM
Basic AutoProPad was made to kill the ikey820.. just Immobilizer system to current with no Eeprom or diagnostic features. Was made to be use in Mexico with lower price.

Made to kill ikey820 or Skantechno and Immo Kaar 3 ( pirate autopropad in mexico) i think ikey820 I think the ikey820 is not competition for the autopropad or ps80

keysmith
5th June, 2019, 03:42 AM
ah ok so the difference between the lite and the basic is the diagnostic capabilities then???


Basic and Lite are identical in functions, just cheaper

ray-ray
5th June, 2019, 04:52 AM
The lite will be discontinued or superseded by the basic.

N54TS
5th June, 2019, 05:02 AM
This?
https://i.ibb.co/xLxjLYS/20190603-140235-1-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/54b84kW)

Yes! I see it in a lot of ads and YouTube videos but can't figure out how to make mine like that.

ps80l
5th June, 2019, 05:06 AM
Pm and I'll connect to your unit and make it look like mine.

esx503
6th June, 2019, 01:25 AM
Pm and I'll connect to your unit and make it look like mine.Could you do mine too?

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esx503
6th June, 2019, 01:27 AM
2008 endeavor key Programmed good but the remote option wouldn't work on all types 1-6 I believe it said failed to communicate or something along those lines.

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ps80l
6th June, 2019, 05:27 AM
2018 Ford flip key add. Failed...

Done in about 20 seconds with other tool.

esx503
6th June, 2019, 02:51 PM
I did a 15 last week isn't it the same?
2018 Ford flip key add. Failed...

Done in about 20 seconds with other tool.

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lwood
7th June, 2019, 12:43 AM
The lite will be discontinued or superseded by the basic.


i just bought the lite two weeks ago. will i still get updates?

milehighlockdoc
7th June, 2019, 04:09 AM
i just bought the lite two weeks ago. will i still get updates?Definitely.

2016 Fiat 500 duplicate non remote key. Successful.

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ray-ray
7th June, 2019, 05:24 AM
Ford add key working under smart key the issues has been address

N54TS
7th June, 2019, 02:12 PM
Ford add key working under smart key the issues has been address

Any update on 2017+ F-Series add a key? I have numerous customers who need 5-6 keys for these trucks.

ps80l
7th June, 2019, 08:57 PM
Any update on 2017+ F-Series add a key? I have numerous customers who need 5-6 keys for these trucks.

I believe the max amount of keys 17+ holds are 4.

esx503
7th June, 2019, 09:35 PM
How long is the APPs battery supposed to last? I'm getting crappy battery performance. I wanna make sure I don't have a defective battery.

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ray-ray
8th June, 2019, 12:19 AM
Battery have a 2 year life warranty. Send it Jon Eric he will replace it and send it back.

ps80l
8th June, 2019, 04:42 AM
2017 Jeep renegade prox.

Read pin ok, Programming failed

Done with another tool in under a minute. APP has been letting me down this week...

Loydslock
8th June, 2019, 02:07 PM
We did a PCM replace on a 2005 Grand Cherokee yesterday. It will ask if you want to bypass the pin. You have to say no if you want to access the module replace functions. I was using the PS80L, but I don't think there is a difference on the menu, and it had the functions reversed. You have to select Replace WCM to edit the VIN in the PCM. if you select Replace PCM it says this is if you have replaced the WCM and need to match it to the PCM. just a note that might help someone out. Maybe a simple update to change those menus? This is the third or fourth PCM we've done. Fast easy money.

esx503
9th June, 2019, 09:07 PM
2017 Express 2500 couldn't add or delete key fob
remote > auto identity > add remote = test failed.


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ray-ray
10th June, 2019, 05:39 AM
No more support from my end, my contract is over.. Let Locklabs & Xtool play the game with there new support team.

camelgd
10th June, 2019, 01:40 PM
I, for one have appreciated your help on APP as well as everything else. You brought a whole new level of support that just wasn't there before for the programming machines coming out. I look forward to your next project.

ps80l
11th June, 2019, 01:26 AM
All the suggestions I gave Ray and Erik when the tool came out were never implemented. Funny thing is that the fake machine that was being sold in Mexico had my ideas all built in it. lol!!!

esx503
11th June, 2019, 07:58 PM
Are you still gonna be working on developing and bettering the APP Ray Ray? If not what other tools can you tell us will be your main focus?

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ps80l
11th June, 2019, 11:20 PM
2004 Pacifica...Failed to program key. Gave wrong pin code error

Done with other cheap chinese tool in under 20 seconds. Seems the latest chrysler software full of bugs

esx503
13th June, 2019, 07:12 PM
2012 Ford fiesta smart key programmed no problem. APP 's only option for fiesta was 2014 and up but it Programmed no problem.

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ps80l
14th June, 2019, 04:27 AM
2014 Fiesta Remote key
APP gives three options??? -14 and 14-(type 1 and 2). Did 14- type 1, asked for pin code. Tries type 2 and it failed. Went back to type one and it worked fine. ???

1999 Mercury cougar. Failed(Wrong verification code). Job completed with cheap chinese tool...

esx503
14th June, 2019, 03:09 PM
I went USFORD > By Vehicle > Smart Key> Fiesta > 2014-

It worked for my 2012

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ps80l
14th June, 2019, 11:19 PM
I went USFORD > By Vehicle > Smart Key> Fiesta > 2014-

It worked for my 2012

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If you read my post, I'm talking about a remote key. NOT smart key


The menu is wrong for the key section and this is how it's suppose to look...

One button 11-13 and other button 14-

Now looks...which is wrong

-2014 and other button 2014-2019

ps80l
14th June, 2019, 11:22 PM
2002 Pt cruiser add remote. FAIL!!!!

Done with cheap chinese tool in a few seconds

sleepyrz
15th June, 2019, 12:48 AM
CURRENT FEATURES

BMW CAS 1, 2 & 3 key programming
Chrysler / Jeep / Fiat new system PIN reading & programming
Chrysler CAN PIN reading & programming
Chrysler Type1 & Type2 PIN read via EEPROM
Ford 128-Bit add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Ford Fusion 2013+ system rolling code bypass (no NASTF needed)
Ford 10-Minute bypass on all-keys-lost for all Ford systems: Bypass the normal 10-minute wait.
Ford parameter reset
Ford/Lincoln/Mercury keyless entry keypad code read
GM PIN code reading
GM Remote Programming
Honda 2017 proximity system programming
Honda transponder programming: Super-quick!
Hyundai & Kia old PIN codes: converts VIN to PIN for 2007 and older
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: No more buying PINs from the dealer (smart keys)
Nissan BCM to PIN conversion: Supports the 5-digit and 20-digit BCMs
Subaru G-Key (80-Bit) add-a-key & all-keys-lost programming
Toyota H-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota G-Chip programming w/ no 16-minute wait
Toyota/Lexus proximity system 6 & 7 programming all-keys-lost & add-a-key (ie. 2017 Toyota CH-R & Prius Prime)
VW/Audi 2013-2016 programming for add-a-key
VW Touareg 2005
Chrysler Pacifica 2016+
Volvo key programming (2008-2015 select models/non-prox)
Maserati key programming (2015-2017 Quattro Forte & Ghibli)






AutoProPAD New Features Releasing Soon:





Audi/VW 2013-2016 programming for all-keys-lost (coming Q1 2019)
Chrysler Type2 PIN read via OBD2 (coming Q4 2018)
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: (slot keys) (coming Q1 2019)
Fiat 500/Dodge Promaster/Promaster City key programming (coming Q4 2018)
Full PIN read for all 2017-2018 GMC vehicles (coming Q4 2018)

Transponder motorcycle programming (coming 2019)
EEPROM key value reading/editing from BIN dump (coming Q4 2018)
Remote unlocking w/adapter (coming 2019)
BMW FEM module key programming via EEPROM (coming 2019)
BMW CAS3+ (coming 2019)
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM in-circuitprogramming w/ adapter (coming 2019)


Alfa Romeo programming
Chrysler Pacifica 2018+
Maserati programming




currently end of Q2 2019



how we doing on these ?

esx503
17th June, 2019, 08:48 PM
If you read my post, I'm talking about a remote key. NOT smart key


The menu is wrong for the key section and this is how it's suppose to look...

One button 11-13 and other button 14-

Now looks...which is wrong

-2014 and other button 2014-2019Gotcha

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ps80l
25th June, 2019, 12:10 AM
2004 Jeep G. Cherokee remote programming fail.

Done with cheap chinese tool...

esx503
28th June, 2019, 02:32 AM
what's up with BMW? can anyone use ANY functions for BMW in the APP? I called AKS and they said it's a known issue that BMW don't work. those are deceptive sale tactics right there. you can't advertise a product does BMW and it doesn't even connect to BMWs anyone else experiencing the same ?

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ray-ray
28th June, 2019, 03:20 AM
Cas 1,2,3 with internet connection is working. The issue lies in the hardware on the kwp protocol others are working.

esx503
30th June, 2019, 04:26 AM
the other options like to scan for codes on different modules isn't working for BMW I'm assuming that's the root of the issue as well

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autoTkey
12th July, 2019, 08:14 AM
I'm currently looking specifically for a device which can support Subaru and Volvo. I see XTOOL now offers many devices - some with IMMO functions, some without. But it seems like all devices have the same IMMO functions and says it supports both car makers. Am I correct?

Second question is a bit more tricky - which one has the better support for the mentioned cars - XTOOL or Lonsdor. Can anybody compare?

ray-ray
12th July, 2019, 01:31 PM
Xtool has no Volvo and Subaru is very little, but support is there.

esx503
15th July, 2019, 06:33 PM
I can't complain about support with the APP however I'm pretty bummed out about the BMW. I'm hoping they find a solution soon

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esx503
15th July, 2019, 06:34 PM
2006 Galant programmed remote but didn't program transponder even though it says successful and it even asks you if you want to add another one. neither option works

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N54TS
15th July, 2019, 08:31 PM
2006 Galant programmed remote but didn't program transponder even though it says successful and it even asks you if you want to add another one. neither option works

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Mitsubishi are usually very picky about only using OEM keys. Are you using that or aftermarket?

keysmith
16th July, 2019, 06:24 AM
When the subscription expires can we still do key programming requiring an internet connection?

esx503
16th July, 2019, 07:20 AM
Mitsubishi are usually very picky about only using OEM keys. Are you using that or aftermarket?maybe that's it since I'm using an aftermarket

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N54TS
16th July, 2019, 03:55 PM
maybe that's it since I'm using an aftermarket

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I've had the same issue. I only use OEM on Mitsubishi now.

ps80l
16th July, 2019, 05:21 PM
Not about it being oem or not. Issue is what machine is generating the Mitsubishi 46 encryption. I get fake and oem 46 blank chips and convert them to 46 Mitsubishi. No issues when programming
I have seen fake mitsubishi keys with wrong encryption being sold.

esx503
17th July, 2019, 05:11 AM
Not about it being oem or not. Issue is what machine is generating the Mitsubishi 46 encryption. I get fake and oem 46 blank chips and convert them to 46 Mitsubishi. No issues when programming
I have seen fake mitsubishi keys with wrong encryption being sold.what tools do I need to convert them like you say.

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camelgd
18th July, 2019, 12:43 AM
Looks like there are two different systems on F150- American Proxy 15-19 is one system, Canadian F150 import is a different system. Failed to program Canadian import with new F-250/ Fusion proxy, which is the only one I could find that should have worked.

N54TS
24th July, 2019, 05:13 PM
Can anyone confirm if Chrysler type-2 pins can be read via obd yet with the APP?

ray-ray
24th July, 2019, 05:23 PM
Type 2 jeep yes other it’s a hit or miss (brass key is needed to perform the process).

N54TS
24th July, 2019, 08:03 PM
Type 2 jeep yes other it’s a hit or miss (brass key is needed to perform the process).

Thank you!

lwood
29th July, 2019, 11:53 PM
How long is the APPs battery supposed to last? I'm getting crappy battery performance. I wanna make sure I don't have a defective battery.

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did you get the battery issue fix. i just got my lite 4 months ago. battery will not last . anyone know how to contact support

ps80l
30th July, 2019, 04:21 AM
did you get the battery issue fix. i just got my lite 4 months ago. battery will not last . anyone know how to contact support

Erik and Rayx2 are out. I believe lock labs has taken over the Autopropad project.

esx503
30th July, 2019, 02:11 PM
did you get the battery issue fix. i just got my lite 4 months ago. battery will not last . anyone know how to contact supportit wasn't a battery issue the problem is when you stay inside any of the functions without actually using it or plugged in to a car it tends to run the battery down way faster. what I started doing is I back out of all open applications in the program and back out of the program after I'm done using it that seemed to work.

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ray-ray
19th August, 2019, 01:02 AM
That’s it contract has ended CLOSE Thread ———

lwood
14th September, 2019, 01:01 AM
does anyone know the site to read the change log for updates?

sleepyrz
14th September, 2019, 06:59 PM
yea it was pretty much here

through ray ray lol

that was all we had

and now hes gone......

so sad

hes gone on to the next junkyard over

autel

sleepyrz
1st November, 2019, 04:51 PM
So does anyone know if anybody picked up the development ?
Or will all of these just never get done?


AutoProPAD New Features Releasing Soon:

Alfa Romeo programming (Q1/Q2 2018)
Audi/VW 2013-2016 Programming for All-Keys-Lost (coming Q1/Q2 2018)
Chrysler Type2 PIN Read Via OBD2 (coming Q1/Q2 2018)
Chrysler Pacifica 2016+ (coming Q1 2018)
Hyundai & Kia New PIN Code Read: (Slot Keys) (coming Q1/Q2 2018)
Maserati programming (coming Q1/Q2 2018)
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM In-Circuit Programming w/ Adapter (coming 2018)
Transponder Motorcycle Programming (coming 2018)

Or any of these? Dates lol

Audi/VW 2013-2016 programming for all-keys-lost (coming Q1 2019)
Chrysler Type2 PIN read via OBD2 (coming Q4 2018)
Hyundai & Kia new PIN code read: (slot keys) (coming Q1 2019)
Subaru 2017 MSOP EEPROM in-circuitprogramming w/ adapter (coming 2019)
Transponder motorcycle programming (coming 2019)
Fiat 500/Dodge Promaster/Promaster City key programming (coming Q4 2018)
Full PIN read for all 2017-2018 GMC vehicles (coming Q4 2018)

jmcsecurity
1st November, 2019, 09:03 PM
Ray-Ray has left LockLabs, tool is dead, no more development!

ray-ray
3rd November, 2019, 06:01 PM
I was told that my service was not enough to bring the tool to the next level. They replace me with 10 new faces,3 month later those faces have left the house with nothing to offer. There trying to push Erik to produce new protocols but he is dead in the water without me and my tools,keys,dealer contact. Out of good faith I did get together with the engineer here in the USA and gave them 5 days of testing. A lot was done in those days, to correct problems with current software issue. I’m still working on my own to collect data for the next generation of tool that will be release next year.

sleepyrz
4th November, 2019, 04:06 AM
We thank you for your service good sir

ranchero
17th November, 2019, 01:06 AM
I was told that my service was not enough to bring the tool to the next level. They replace me with 10 new faces,3 month later those faces have left the house with nothing to offer. There trying to push Erik to produce new protocols but he is dead in the water without me and my tools,keys,dealer contact. Out of good faith I did get together with the engineer here in the USA and gave them 5 days of testing. A lot was done in those days, to correct problems with current software issue. I’m still working on my own to collect data for the next generation of tool that will be release next year.

Could you clarify this? You're saying that they kicked you out, but then - that you're collecting the data for "next generation tool". Will it be new generation of XTool, or upgrade, or new name tool altogether?
The reason I'm asking - I'm thinking to buy Autopropad Basic, but really confused what's going on - will there be any further development etc.

ps80l
17th November, 2019, 02:56 AM
Development is still there but at a much slower pace. Rayx2 has the connection to all the vehicles. Xtool now has a much smaller selection of cars to test on as they don't have the Rayx2 hook up. ;-)

ray-ray
17th November, 2019, 07:59 AM
Ray X2 is still in the game looking for a better resource and better developers on a old school platform. You buy the hardware the software is your to use as needed, without timers or tokens.. offline on most except for BMW,Volvo,Mercedes..AKA the Huf Group.

ray-ray
22nd November, 2019, 03:53 PM
Locklabs & Xtool are planing on dropping a new key and diagnostic programmer call “Nitro”.. There is nothing new on the immobilizer section just what We develop, there is nothing new. AutoProPad, Basic, Elite, Nitro all using software that has been developed last year. No need to buy these tool, pricing will be higher along with there marketing and subscription.

N54TS
29th November, 2019, 06:33 PM
Locklabs & Xtool are planing on dropping a new key and diagnostic programmer call “Nitro”.. There is nothing new on the immobilizer section just what We develop, there is nothing new. AutoProPad, Basic, Elite, Nitro all using software that has been developed last year. No need to buy these tool, pricing will be higher along with there marketing and subscription.

Thanks for the heads up!

sleepyrz
1st December, 2019, 05:18 PM
Wonder what the marketing will be

I love a good marketing scheme

" how can we polish this turd and feed it to people"

sleepyrz
7th December, 2019, 02:39 AM
Oh its just the rebadged a80 h6 with the autopropad software........

ray-ray
7th December, 2019, 03:26 AM
They ask Erik to remove his YouTube video ,so they can create new ones. 4 years with over 2000 subscribers

sleepyrz
7th December, 2019, 03:46 AM
https://www.xtoolusa.com/product-category/programmers/nitro/

These ones i assume

Cant tell what is the difference between the three though

sleepyrz
7th December, 2019, 03:47 AM
They ask Erik to remove his YouTube video ,so they can create new ones. 4 years with over 2000 subscribers

Thats a bit lame......
Just remake the videos
Nobody will notice anywau

Nobody pays attention

ray-ray
7th December, 2019, 07:48 PM
Market director needs to do something, because there is no new stuff being added. Soon they will be losing Erik, “GAME OVER”...

sleepyrz
8th December, 2019, 06:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_BxowwOBh8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_BxowwOBh8)





OooooOOOOOOooooooo fancy video

ray-ray
8th December, 2019, 10:14 PM
More money, more money, more money!!!!

Automat
11th December, 2019, 08:21 PM
Perhaps new nissan 22 digit soon?
2018 - 2019 Nissan Kicks, Rogue Smart Prox Key 3B - KR5TXN1 Currently can only be programmed with Nissan Consult and Nissan subscription for PIN 22 digit conversion

ray-ray
11th December, 2019, 11:28 PM
I just pick up a engineer version of the consult 3 all off line. Will be playing with it to come out with new stuff.

sleepyrz
12th December, 2019, 05:47 AM
[QUOTE=Automat;3742859]Perhaps new nissan 22 digit soon?
2018 - 2019 Nissan Kicks, Rogue Smart Prox Key 3B - KR5TXN1 Currently can only be programmed with Nissan Consult and Nissan subscription for PIN 22 digit conversion[/QUOTE



Probably not from xtool........

Maybe autel or vvdi or anybody else ray is working with lol

Hell obdstar will probably have it before xtool

ray-ray
12th December, 2019, 05:54 AM
Word on the street is that obdstar has a new unit with off line Ford and Mazda.. check it out

sleepyrz
12th December, 2019, 06:04 AM
As much as people give them shit
Ive made more money with my x300dp full than most of the other tools ive got except ck200 but its only because ive had the ck200 longer

Just looked in the update log from obdstar and it has the 2018+ kick under immo????????
Is thia regular key vs prox?

sleepyrz
12th December, 2019, 02:54 PM
Word on the street is that obdstar has a new unit with off line Ford and Mazda.. check it out

Not another f100/h100 failure is it?

sleepyrz
14th December, 2019, 04:33 AM
Hey ray just looked at their new nitro gt package and noticed they removed all the eeprom stuff???
So it does less now.........

ray-ray
14th December, 2019, 04:42 PM
Can not help stupidly.. That why experience automotive Locksmith is needed to control future development. No tool can program Hyundai (genesis G70,G80,G90) system is offline so easy to capture. The same goes for Hyundai and Kia Models, I would start there. Bring new car market to the tool for 2020..

sleepyrz
27th December, 2019, 07:31 PM
ray i feel like we should just have a thread for just you

like "ray rays developments and what hes working on this week"

might even get you the info you need faster for things to get done

ray-ray
27th December, 2019, 09:04 PM
That’s why I come to DK knowledge from around the world at my fingertips.

sleepyrz
27th December, 2019, 11:06 PM
So got word from someone that the autopropad just released the 22 digit kicks
And the aes prox programming for toyota
(Still need nastf)

ray-ray
28th December, 2019, 12:13 AM
No one wants to deal with nastf and give them money. Offline programming is the solution needed.

sleepyrz
28th December, 2019, 01:15 PM
Indeed it is

sleepyrz
31st December, 2019, 05:35 AM
XTOOL also displayed the new programmer KC501, which get alot preference by users. KC501 is well known for its highlights -- "5 in 1"
(1)Pre-coding function, to generate dealer key
(2)Read frequency of both remote key and smart key
(3)Mercedes-Benz infrared key: Functions of Generte key and all-key lost
(4)Read EEPROM chip information and write information to EEPROM chip
(5)Read the MCU information of the Key Programming system and write the information to the MCU.678657

You can see it in the right of the photo

I guess this is their eeprom functionality for the nitro gt

ray-ray
31st December, 2019, 06:03 AM
Yes there KC100 that they had no control of is going away, along with there Eeprom programmer. They took autel im608 Eeprom & processor programmer along with there Rf and info red program (Clone it). I have to say Mr. Yu who works for the company is very sharp on Eeprom and processor he can take it to the next level if he can get the USA Bcm,ecu,immo, and so on.

mojomojo
3rd January, 2020, 09:46 PM
Yes there KC100 that they had no control of is going away, along with there Eeprom programmer. They took autel im608 Eeprom & processor programmer along with there Rf and info red program (Clone it). I have to say Mr. Yu who works for the company is very sharp on Eeprom and processor he can take it to the next level if he can get the USA Bcm,ecu,immo, and so on.



hey ray is there any aftermarket tool for 2020 corolla flip key AKL?
I tried today with autopropad and only has ass key option and incode is needed there as well

ray-ray
4th January, 2020, 02:23 AM
No aftermarket tool as of yet can do the toyota Smart AES system.

sleepyrz
4th January, 2020, 11:34 AM
ray i saw smartpro release the 17-19 g80 and g90 and genesis 15-19 and some others as well







hey ray is there any aftermarket tool for 2020 corolla flip key AKL?
I tried today with autopropad and only has ass key option and incode is needed there as well




So got word from someone that the autopropad just released the 22 digit kicks
And the aes prox programming for toyota
(Still need nastf)


notice i said you still need the nastf id to be able to get the access so it will ask for the response code

or maybe i wasnt actually clear enough there

but yea as of now send em on over to the dealer unless you can get the code from toyota somehow

me i have the service manager as my dad who was the head master tech there for like 30 years

sleepyrz
19th February, 2020, 04:02 PM
anyone heard from china?

they getting back to work yet?

some are on skype but not in actual office

ray-ray
19th February, 2020, 04:05 PM
Autokeys & lockpick both 2 week place order and paid and still has not ship out. Custom is also holding the package for 10days.

sleepyrz
19th February, 2020, 04:11 PM
Autokeys & lockpick both 2 week place order and paid and still has not ship out. Custom is also holding the package for 10days.



hell id grab me a UV-C sterilizing wand and go over it all just in case lol


corona aint no joke

sleepyrz
21st October, 2020, 01:36 AM
2020 corolla toy44h. Non high security Base model no remote
Failure to communicate with propad
Autel says ecu not support this submenu function

Thought it was only prox models we couldnt do??

jvinhj240
29th January, 2021, 02:12 PM
can this do 2016 promaster replacement PCM pin# immoo

ray-ray
29th January, 2021, 03:06 PM
Used ecm won’t work Fiat system , maybe IO terminal..

janake
24th March, 2021, 09:50 AM
I read this post http://xtoolsupport.com/xtool-ps90-vs-xtool-x100-pad3/ , Finally I decided to choose X100 PAD3

Hondasilver
20th April, 2021, 01:15 AM
Add a smart key today on a 2019 Honda Crv here in Canada.
Car started and run good,
Also it programmed the keyless remote all in one step.
Using Xtool PS90

sleepyrz
28th April, 2021, 01:28 AM
99 explorer fail all ways with autopropad
Fail with autel
Gonna try ck200 tomorrow forgot it at home.....

Cmon this is old car......

Edit: I'm stupid it was the wrong chip in the key....... ignore me I'm retarded
Ray Ray is Jesus we are not worthy yes I'm drunk ~~~~ you

ray-ray
28th April, 2021, 02:58 PM
https://youtu.be/8woKv4QQplo. Looking for more issues please join them on Friday. Watch how they lie to the public.

camelgd
28th April, 2021, 04:15 PM
Some of he older ones you have to unhook tool, and then rotate keys turning on and off. I run into this with Crown vic/ Mercury Marquis around that vintage. Usually have to do 2 rotations of the keys on and of until both are programmed.

sleepyrz
25th May, 2021, 09:20 AM
Some of he older ones you have to unhook tool, and then rotate keys turning on and off. I run into this with Crown vic/ Mercury Marquis around that vintage. Usually have to do 2 rotations of the keys on and of until both are programmed.



Did that too thinking the same but.......

Well apparently this one was and also was not my fault

I bought h72 keys listed with 4c chip in a bundle of like 20 or something

Apparently they were h72 shells and somehow ended up with 4d chips in them instead of what they were supposed to

All of them were 4d........

Figured it out swapped in some 4c out of a toyota key I think and good to go they programmed in

I have amended my previous post to reflect the issue

camelgd
4th June, 2021, 09:33 PM
2020 550 diesel Ford truck. Needed to add keys (2), APP said I had to be hooked to the internet. I don't recall having to do that before, for 2020, or I guess I haven't done that many 20's. Failed to get security verification 3 times in a row, but it came up correct the 4th time and key programmed. Added 2nd new key with on board program.

ray-ray
4th June, 2021, 10:02 PM
Anything new that the other programmed don’t have stay on the internet (for protection).

Hondasilver
11th July, 2021, 03:34 AM
Hello Friends, I was trying to add a second Keyless Fob ( Push Start) to a 2018 Honda CRV Australian spec vehicle.
Keep saying Failure to communicate , please try again.
I did however managed to Read the ecu for Stored keys and key Type which is Type 2 .
Any help would be greatly appreciated .
I used PS90.

teo72
1st January, 2022, 08:55 PM
ma il telecomando e' originale ?