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twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 02:35 PM
Hello mates,

Have a problem with Ford Kuga DCM 3.5.
The story is:
Some local tuner wanted to make chip on this ecu via china Kess and file bought somewhere from internet.
He made a copy of original file (thanks God) but do not even sent this file to someone for tuning. Just uploaded some file don't know from where.
Wright now car do not start, ECU do not reply, writing via OBD is not possible any more.
I have both files original and tuned (files attached here 402089 )
As I can see it's a totally different files.
Can someone help me to start the car and make normal tune?


Thanks for your time and help!
Reputation up from me and thanks for everyone!

morfej
6th October, 2016, 02:45 PM
Why don't your write more info .... now just send two files.

br

twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 02:51 PM
Why don't your write more info .... now just send two files.

br

What info you need mate?

HW: AV41-12A650-DM
SW: AV41-14C204-DN

That's all I have

gttuning
6th October, 2016, 03:09 PM
Please dont call this guy a tuner.he has nothing to do with tuning if he done that.
Try to load ori file to your tool and press write even if you have no com.see what happens.

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twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 03:16 PM
Please dont call this guy a tuner.he has nothing to do with tuning if he done that.
Try to load ori file to your tool and press write even if you have no com.see what happens.

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It doesn't work mate. Says engine is defective. Starter won't spin.

voltechcar
6th October, 2016, 03:24 PM
reprograming ecu ids

twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 04:07 PM
reprograming ecu ids

can you give more info how to do that? What tool I need?

Act Tuning
6th October, 2016, 05:09 PM
Do you have communication with ecu ?

twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 06:20 PM
Do you have communication with ecu ?

Any prog.tool do not see the ecu.

Act Tuning
6th October, 2016, 06:24 PM
I did not understand what you meant, but if you talking about diag tools, try at least Id the ecu, cause if you cant Id it or dont have comunication, you damage the ecu with your file you flashed, so you need to open ecu and do Write ecu on benchwith full backup flash only,

twchnodictator
6th October, 2016, 07:24 PM
I did not understand what you meant, but if you talking about diag tools, try at least Id the ecu, cause if you cant Id it or dont have comunication, you damage the ecu with your file you flashed, so you need to open ecu and do Write ecu on benchwith full backup flash only,

Mate, I do not flash it. Galletto,Kess do not see ECU ID.
How can I get full back up?

voltechcar
6th October, 2016, 07:25 PM
k-tag read

daniel guerra
6th October, 2016, 07:29 PM
If the file that the tuner wrote that is completely different from original, corrupted the dump on the ECU, than the only way he can recover is by jtag otherwise he will not be able to load the file via OBD.

Not every tools are able to recover this ECU, I think KTAG can do it, i've tried one but without luck, i had to open both sides of the ECU, big risk and at the end i was not able to read it.

Wish you luck with this one.

pulsar2000
6th October, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mate, I do not flash it. Galletto,Kess do not see ECU ID.
How can I get full back up?

So is SOMEONE Else mistake, so why not them who fix it ? why you fix someone elses bad work ? dont make sense,
yes K tag, Trasdata will fix, or car goes nowhere, until

ysftzcn
6th October, 2016, 07:53 PM
I had same problem before and Kess v2 not detect ecu and ecu ID after write a tuned map. Cars not working

So, I start recovey function in kess v2 and write original file and car working very well

luca22
6th October, 2016, 08:17 PM
I had same problem before and Kess v2 not detect ecu and ecu ID after write a tuned map. Cars not working

So, I start recovey function in kess v2 and write original file and car working very well

Do You use oryginal tool KESS v2? or clone...

Act Tuning
6th October, 2016, 08:19 PM
He mess up the flash, just ktag and org flash ,

ysftzcn
6th October, 2016, 08:23 PM
Do You use oryginal tool KESS v2? or clone...

I used clone kess v2

morfej
7th October, 2016, 06:49 AM
Yes ... if he was playing than fixing most likly possible only with JTAG. He wrote JTAG read from SW DV41-14C204-CF that tuned file.

Here a Jtag read of you software AV41-12A650-DN and vbf file if you will try with IDS.

Or try the mentioned restor function with KESS and full Jtag read from my attached file.

Br,
morfej

smirnoff_rules
7th October, 2016, 07:23 AM
dosnt sound like original tuner would of used jtag if it didnt even know he had to flash same hw number

bonzosoko
24th January, 2017, 10:32 AM
There I also landed ECU No more
How did you solve your problem?

daynight
24th January, 2017, 10:45 AM
Just use recovery function with original file. KESS can do this!

smirnoff_rules
31st May, 2017, 05:29 PM
where the ecu on a ford kuga 2010 sid ecu . cheers

found it n/s/f wheel arch

smirnoff_rules
1st June, 2017, 10:19 PM
interesting thread , has anyone a ori jtag read for this number dmc3.5 please

HW: AV41-12A650-CM
SW: AV41-14C204-CM
VIN nr.: WF0RXXGCD555556
SW ver.: 0761SA20051138
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.: AV41-12A650-CL
SW upg.:
Installation:



thank you

smirnoff_rules
2nd June, 2017, 01:27 PM
interesting thread , has anyone a ori jtag read for this number dmc3.5 please

HW: AV41-12A650-CM
SW: AV41-14C204-CM
VIN nr.: WF0RXXGCD555556
SW ver.: 0761SA20051138
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.: AV41-12A650-CL
SW upg.:
Installation:



thank you
anyone ?.......................

lsdlsd88
2nd June, 2017, 02:01 PM
try this (found online...)

smirnoff_rules
2nd June, 2017, 07:17 PM
thanks will check it out , same size as obd read tho ? cheers

kugafan
9th January, 2020, 12:10 AM
Hi all,
anyone got the original bin file for Siemens SID206 ecu, Kuga 2.0tdci 2008. File required is 8V41-12A650-AF

I have vbf files if anyone needs for AV41-14C204-CP

Let me know and I will post it here

cheers