Siemans cdr2005 code with carprog

[dkenny]

Hi all

Iv just tried decoding my cdr2005 siemans with my carprog using the a10 adaptor

I manahed to read a code and id but the code was 5 digits long

86800

Has it read incorrectly or do i. Eed to do something else and is. Y carprog capable?

Cheers

[kappa1]

Post serial GMXXXXXXXXXX

[dkenny]

Pin code im getting is 86600

And serial

Gm020543300181

Cheers

[bogege]

Hi, read eeprom 24C16 and post dump here for the code!

[dkenny]

How do i do that with carprog clone?

[KierAn20]

How do i do that with carprog clone?

Use adaptor A6 (soic8 clip) instead of A10 (k-line pickup) buddy :)

[dkenny]

Can it be done with a6 clip?

[KierAn20]

Can it be done with a6 clip?

Yepp just use A6 clip to read 24c16 and upload here. Or chose from Carprog radio menu to show code in Carprog (you have to chose Philips CCR-2006 instead of VDO CDR-2005 but algo and location is identical so code will be correct).

[dkenny]

Does eeprom fit into clip as if chip soldered to board and clip on top or does chip push into clip asif clip was a pcb?

Do i have to desolder?

[KierAn20]

Does eeprom fit into clip as if chip soldered to board and clip on top or does chip push into clip asif clip was a pcb?

Do i have to desolder?

Yes and heat enough to melt also 2 small glue pads under eeprom, apply upwards pressure (carefully) at same time bud. You have hot air?

[dkenny]

Iv desoldered and cant read anything

A6 clip

Chip only fite one way

Pin 1 to white sleeve

Tried with 12v to carprog and without and getting nothing???

[KierAn20]

Iv desoldered and cant read anything

A6 clip

Chip only fite one way

Pin 1 to white sleeve

Tried with 12v to carprog and without and getting nothing???

It don't read any 24c chips? You have correct orientation with white sleeve on wire.

You have a different i2c programmer like Pony or anything?

[dkenny]

On phillips ccr2006 when i try to read it says clip no contact?

[shooting]

On phillips ccr2006 when i try to read it says clip no contact?

Why not use a Ponyprog? 2 minutes work....

wbr

[dkenny]

No only a car prog for this sor of thing 😞

[KierAn20]

Definate problem with you Carprog if it won't read 24c devices out of circuit. No data even if you chose the eeprom menu instead of car radio menu?

[shooting]

No only a car prog for this sor of thing 

A pony is no more than 5 euros .. any cheap programmer will do this
even this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CH341A-STC-FLASH-24-25-EEPROM-BIOS-Writer-USB-Programmer-SPI-USB-to-TTL-/302173555971?hash=item465af28d03:g:Uj0AAOSwZQRYWk7 l

wbr

[dkenny]

No if i just eeprom read then has

Just 0000000 in bin file

So this carprog no good?

Il check wiring has continuity

[KierAn20]

No if i just eeprom read then has

Just 0000000 in bin file

So this carprog no good?

Il check wiring has continuity

More likely 74HC chips inside clone will be junk. Possibly try adding extra 12v to carprog box with the extra jack lead and see if it read then.

If not, like Shooting says - time to build a Pony....... :chuncky:

[dkenny]

All wiring checks ok

I bought carprog for this sort of thing and mileage correction

My hardware is faulty i take it

Or bad connection to eeprom?

[KierAn20]

All wiring checks ok

I bought carprog for this sort of thing and mileage correction

My hardware is faulty i take it

Or bad connection to eeprom?

Alot of clones with crap internals about mate. TBH i'd be really careful if you use it on any dash which has sensitive irretrievable data (like Ford immo data inside clusters) because I wouldn't trust a clone Carprog with anything like that.

Mine is only trusted for K-line while im on the move and certain airbags without opening - i wouldn't trust more than that.........

[dkenny]

Can i repair the carprog as i want to use it if i can

Then again as long as software ok then i can still use car peog software if i have another means of reading eeprom?

[dkenny]

I thought i could at least retrieve a radio code or 2

Have obdstar x300 for newer fords etc

What you recommend to seplace carprog with then or buy original?

[KierAn20]

Can i repair the carprog as i want to use it if i can

Then again as long as software ok then i can still use car peog software if i have another means of reading eeprom?

Repair kit:

http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-repair-kit-4x-74hc125-4x-22uf-capasitors-1x-mcp2515/prod_566.html

Grab yourself something like a UPA when you have spare funds buddy, it will pay for itself easy after a few jobs and you can trust it as a very useful addition to your Carprog.

Good luck :beer:

[dkenny]

Is there only one bit likely to of failed on mine or do i need o replace all the bits oike in that link

Im new to this so bought carprog to learn about eeprom reading 😂

Will a UPA (fo you have a link) ship with software and fairly simple o use?

Cheers

[dkenny]

Which are the 74hc chips?

Will they sell them at maplin?

[dkenny]

Or is anyone local in the midlands i can bring it to to confirm the fault?

[bogege]

Will a UPA (fo you have a link) ship with software and fairly simple o use?

http://www.elrasoft.com/

[dkenny]

Im still annoyed that it is faulty

Its brand new

Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired

Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!

[bogege]

Im still annoyed that it is faulty

Its brand new

Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired



Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!


Just type in google search engine: <carprog clone repair>..............................

[KierAn20]

Im still annoyed that it is faulty

Its brand new

Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired

Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!

It all depends on the quality of the build, but I also know a guy who had the fully paid up original Carprog and he said that if he had the chance again he would've got something else :ambivalence:

Clones always seem to have their little glitches, missing features or strange characteristics with any auto-tools. The discussion on Carprog clone is endless. Read from this page to see similar cases of not being able to work with 24c chips:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/247647-CARPROG-FULL/page74


Whatever you do, don't go near a VW RNS-510 navi with it - some people have made some lovely looking doorstops out of those navis by using Carprog clone :rofl:

[dkenny]

421113421113421113

[dkenny]

421114421116421117

[dkenny]

Does mine look like it has anything missing


Seem to be a capacitor short looking at the kit to repair on codecard website


If i order a new crystal and 4 chips i should at least be able to read eeproms with it shouldnt it?

[dkenny]

Iv soldered a few bits that didnt look good and gave a bit of heat with gun all over jist incase there were any bad joints

cheers for your help so far

[dkenny]

Which upa do i need to buy or pony programmer

Be nice if i can ise a clip for 24c chips instead of soldering every time?

[shooting]

Which upa do i need to buy or pony programmer

Be nice if i can ise a clip for 24c chips instead of soldering every time?


Maybe look at Post #17 :vroam:

wbr

[dkenny]

If i buy this will it do all i need?

What software do i use?

Look at this on eBay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152069847771

CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 Clip On-Board

Picked tbis one as it has the clip to

Cheers

[dkenny]

There are different things on the page i dont know wha is wha lol

Im pretty new to this type of thing

Cheers

[dkenny]

Is it this that i need?

https://secure.shareit.com/shareit/product.html?productid=300621817

[shooting]

If i buy this will it do all i need?

What software do i use?

Look at this on eBay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152069847771

CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 Clip On-Board

Picked tbis one as it has the clip to

Cheers

If you buy them Separate you will not pay as much... Programmer is 3 euros and Chip-Clip is 4 euros total 7 euros

wbr

[dkenny]

Ok but that will do what i need it to do and its easy enough to get software up and running?

[shooting]

Ok but that will do what i need it to do and its easy enough to get software up and running?

It comes with the software, and is common software all over the net...

wbr

[dkenny]

Ok sound

Buying the bits now

Im sure you will hear from me again when i get the bits

In the meantime gonna try and change the 74hc chips in carprog and see what happens

Cheers

[dkenny]

I think i will eventually buy a upa aswell

Depends how into it i get and what purposes i find it useful for

Anyone elaborate on anything else?

Mainly want for odometer repairs 😬

[Citrina]

Hi all

Iv just tried decoding my cdr2005 siemans with my carprog using the a10 adaptor

I manahed to read a code and id but the code was 5 digits long

86800

Has it read incorrectly or do i. Eed to do something else and is. Y carprog capable?

Cheers
turn off radio and try with carprog read again and again

[dkenny]

Eeprom off board now

Waiting for my bios programmer and clip to arrive but gonna change chips in carprog tomorrow and see if i get any luck as per code card website

Gonna be a bit of a challenge to desolder and resolder chips back on

[dkenny]

It all depends on the quality of the build, but I also know a guy who had the fully paid up original Carprog and he said that if he had the chance again he would've got something else :ambivalence:

Clones always seem to have their little glitches, missing features or strange characteristics with any auto-tools. The discussion on Carprog clone is endless. Read from this page to see similar cases of not being able to work with 24c chips:

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/247647-CARPROG-FULL/page74


Whatever you do, don't go near a VW RNS-510 navi with it - some people have made some lovely looking doorstops out of those navis by using Carprog clone :rofl:

so if I replace 74HC125D chips with 4 new 74HC125D chips then chances are my carprog will work?

should I stick to 74HC125D chips or buy a different type of 74HC chip?

[dkenny]

hi all

my ch431a programmer arrived and iv just m,anaged to read the info from the chip

is there any way i can use the car prog software to get the code or not?

iv loaded .bin fille into phillips>24c16> and then opened bin file but i cannot get anything to work!

would like to of tried to work out for myself or does anyone have any other software i can use???

want to be able to write info for odomoter changes in future to etc

cheers

i cannot seem to upload the .bin file eithere???

[dkenny]

how do i upload the .bin file lol?

cheers

[shooting]

how do i upload the .bin file lol?

cheers

When replying use "Go Advanced" then click Paperclip and add there...

wbr

[dkenny]

Says the format is incorrect???

[juisro]

You have to compress it with winrar or winzip

[dkenny]

423599423599

[shooting]

423599423599

Your code is 5036

wbr

[dkenny]

ahh think that has worked

downloading the curde software aswell now to

hopefully that should work

basically carprog is hopeless and i think this ch341a programmer with soic clip will prove more useful!

[juisro]

Hi your code is 5036

[dkenny]

how did you do that!

and how do i thank you to!

cheers

[dkenny]

been looking through the info and cannot see 5036 anywhere lol

how does it work?!

hahaha

[shooting]

been looking through the info and cannot see 5036 anywhere lol

how does it work?!

hahaha

It's encrypted and we use an algorithm to convert it to a code ;)

wbr

[dkenny]

can you share the software?

[shooting]

can you share the software?

Algorithm not Software... I use my brain ;)

wbr

[dkenny]

show me how

im interested in learning

cheers haha

[dkenny]

next question

the current headunit is a cc20

if I disconnect to try the cdr2005 will the cc20 be locked if I try to refit?

is there anyway of retrieving the code before hand or will it not matter as long as I refit back in my vehicle?

cheers

[shooting]

next question

the current headunit is a cc20

if I disconnect to try the cdr2005 will the cc20 be locked if I try to refit?

is there anyway of retrieving the code before hand or will it not matter as long as I refit back in my vehicle?

cheers

If you disconnect the CC20 you will need to decode it

wbr

[dkenny]

So can i do that with carprog or ch341a programmer the same as what i have done to cdr2005?

[shooting]

So can i do that with carprog or ch341a programmer the same as what i have done to cdr2005?

Use this to see what chip you have.... there are a few radio's called CC20

http://codedradio.info/?i=bn&st=cc20

wbr

[dkenny]

I think mine is the bottom one

I have 7 643 103 311 next to barcode

[dkenny]

I have

Blaupunkt
453116246

022668

No: 13 140 941
Type: cc20

Th9

70.03.01

Ds

Sw freeze data:- 26.03.2004/0

Barcode 0020

Barcode 4. 3682634

7 643 102 311

[shooting]

I think mine is the bottom one

I have 7 643 103 311 next to barcode

Then the chip is a 95640 (25640), does your programmer have a setting for this chip?

wbr

[dkenny]

When it says immobiliser that means its paired to vehicle so no code needed to refit?

[dkenny]

Im not sure

Its the cheap one off ebay from earlier on in thread

[shooting]

When it says immobiliser that means its paired to vehicle so no code needed to refit?

It can be CAN or Cancheck (Fiat) or VIN coded... or both

wbr

[KierAn20]

I have

Blaupunkt
453116246

022668

No: 13 140 941
Type: cc20

Th9

70.03.01

Ds

Sw freeze data:- 26.03.2004/0

Barcode 0020

Barcode 4. 3682634

7 643 102 311

That CC-20 definitely won't ask you for any code - it is already married to your display. They don't require a pin code to be entered when you disconnect / reconnect them.

One thing you definitely won't be able to do though is replace it with a CDR-2005 cd player I'm afraid. You need a Vauxhall CD-30 cd player buddy.

HTH

[dkenny]

Ahhh bastard lol 😂

Gone to all this edfort to decode and it wont even work 😂😂😂

Why is that?

Display not compatible or something?

[KierAn20]

Ahhh bastard lol 

Gone to all this edfort to decode and it wont even work 

Why is that?

Display not compatible or something?

CDR-2005 talks on normal serial comms and CC-20 talks on CAN network. Even the plugs are completely different bud....

[dkenny]

When the cdr2005 was removed feom car it had an adaptor loom so someone must of had it fitted into a later corsa then butnot had the display working 😂😂😂

Ah well

Least iv learnt that carprog clones will not read 24c chips and a ebay programmer will and that not all vauxhall stereos even though they look the same are not compatible 😂😂😂

[dkenny]

Iv learnt how to read 24c chips to which was the main aim of the exercise!