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dkenny
12th January, 2017, 10:35 PM
Hi all
Iv just tried decoding my cdr2005 siemans with my carprog using the a10 adaptor
I manahed to read a code and id but the code was 5 digits long
86800
Has it read incorrectly or do i. Eed to do something else and is. Y carprog capable?
Cheers
kappa1
12th January, 2017, 10:41 PM
Post serial GMXXXXXXXXXX
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:05 AM
Pin code im getting is 86600
And serial
Gm020543300181
Cheers
bogege
13th January, 2017, 11:09 AM
Hi, read eeprom 24C16 and post dump here for the code!
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:11 AM
How do i do that with carprog clone?
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:15 AM
How do i do that with carprog clone?
Use adaptor A6 (soic8 clip) instead of A10 (k-line pickup) buddy :)
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:19 AM
Can it be done with a6 clip?
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:22 AM
Can it be done with a6 clip?
Yepp just use A6 clip to read 24c16 and upload here. Or chose from Carprog radio menu to show code in Carprog (you have to chose Philips CCR-2006 instead of VDO CDR-2005 but algo and location is identical so code will be correct).
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:30 AM
Does eeprom fit into clip as if chip soldered to board and clip on top or does chip push into clip asif clip was a pcb?
Do i have to desolder?
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:33 AM
Does eeprom fit into clip as if chip soldered to board and clip on top or does chip push into clip asif clip was a pcb?
Do i have to desolder?
Yes and heat enough to melt also 2 small glue pads under eeprom, apply upwards pressure (carefully) at same time bud. You have hot air?
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:38 AM
Iv desoldered and cant read anything
A6 clip
Chip only fite one way
Pin 1 to white sleeve
Tried with 12v to carprog and without and getting nothing???
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:40 AM
Iv desoldered and cant read anything
A6 clip
Chip only fite one way
Pin 1 to white sleeve
Tried with 12v to carprog and without and getting nothing???
It don't read any 24c chips? You have correct orientation with white sleeve on wire.
You have a different i2c programmer like Pony or anything?
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:41 AM
On phillips ccr2006 when i try to read it says clip no contact?
shooting
13th January, 2017, 11:42 AM
On phillips ccr2006 when i try to read it says clip no contact?
Why not use a Ponyprog? 2 minutes work....
wbr
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:42 AM
No only a car prog for this sor of thing 😞
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:44 AM
Definate problem with you Carprog if it won't read 24c devices out of circuit. No data even if you chose the eeprom menu instead of car radio menu?
shooting
13th January, 2017, 11:46 AM
No only a car prog for this sor of thing
A pony is no more than 5 euros .. any cheap programmer will do this
even this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CH341A-STC-FLASH-24-25-EEPROM-BIOS-Writer-USB-Programmer-SPI-USB-to-TTL-/302173555971?hash=item465af28d03:g:Uj0AAOSwZQRYWk7 l
wbr
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:46 AM
No if i just eeprom read then has
Just 0000000 in bin file
So this carprog no good?
Il check wiring has continuity
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:51 AM
No if i just eeprom read then has
Just 0000000 in bin file
So this carprog no good?
Il check wiring has continuity
More likely 74HC chips inside clone will be junk. Possibly try adding extra 12v to carprog box with the extra jack lead and see if it read then.
If not, like Shooting says - time to build a Pony....... :chuncky:
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:52 AM
All wiring checks ok
I bought carprog for this sort of thing and mileage correction
My hardware is faulty i take it
Or bad connection to eeprom?
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 11:55 AM
All wiring checks ok
I bought carprog for this sort of thing and mileage correction
My hardware is faulty i take it
Or bad connection to eeprom?
Alot of clones with crap internals about mate. TBH i'd be really careful if you use it on any dash which has sensitive irretrievable data (like Ford immo data inside clusters) because I wouldn't trust a clone Carprog with anything like that.
Mine is only trusted for K-line while im on the move and certain airbags without opening - i wouldn't trust more than that.........
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 11:59 AM
Can i repair the carprog as i want to use it if i can
Then again as long as software ok then i can still use car peog software if i have another means of reading eeprom?
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 12:02 PM
I thought i could at least retrieve a radio code or 2
Have obdstar x300 for newer fords etc
What you recommend to seplace carprog with then or buy original?
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 12:05 PM
Can i repair the carprog as i want to use it if i can
Then again as long as software ok then i can still use car peog software if i have another means of reading eeprom?
Repair kit:
http://www.codecard.lt/carprog/carprog-repair-kit-4x-74hc125-4x-22uf-capasitors-1x-mcp2515/prod_566.html
Grab yourself something like a UPA when you have spare funds buddy, it will pay for itself easy after a few jobs and you can trust it as a very useful addition to your Carprog.
Good luck :beer:
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 12:18 PM
Is there only one bit likely to of failed on mine or do i need o replace all the bits oike in that link
Im new to this so bought carprog to learn about eeprom reading 😂
Will a UPA (fo you have a link) ship with software and fairly simple o use?
Cheers
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 01:03 PM
Which are the 74hc chips?
Will they sell them at maplin?
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 01:03 PM
Or is anyone local in the midlands i can bring it to to confirm the fault?
bogege
13th January, 2017, 01:26 PM
Will a UPA (fo you have a link) ship with software and fairly simple o use?
http://www.elrasoft.com/
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 01:33 PM
Im still annoyed that it is faulty
Its brand new
Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired
Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!
bogege
13th January, 2017, 01:49 PM
Im still annoyed that it is faulty
Its brand new
Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired
Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!
Just type in google search engine: <carprog clone repair>..............................
KierAn20
13th January, 2017, 01:56 PM
Im still annoyed that it is faulty
Its brand new
Are they really that bad/cannot be repaired
Had a hard enough time getting it to even work/software!
It all depends on the quality of the build, but I also know a guy who had the fully paid up original Carprog and he said that if he had the chance again he would've got something else :ambivalence:
Clones always seem to have their little glitches, missing features or strange characteristics with any auto-tools. The discussion on Carprog clone is endless. Read from this page to see similar cases of not being able to work with 24c chips:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/247647-CARPROG-FULL/page74
Whatever you do, don't go near a VW RNS-510 navi with it - some people have made some lovely looking doorstops out of those navis by using Carprog clone :rofl:
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 04:26 PM
421113421113421113
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 04:27 PM
421114421116421117
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 04:28 PM
Does mine look like it has anything missing
Seem to be a capacitor short looking at the kit to repair on codecard website
If i order a new crystal and 4 chips i should at least be able to read eeproms with it shouldnt it?
dkenny
13th January, 2017, 04:29 PM
Iv soldered a few bits that didnt look good and gave a bit of heat with gun all over jist incase there were any bad joints
cheers for your help so far
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 02:12 PM
Which upa do i need to buy or pony programmer
Be nice if i can ise a clip for 24c chips instead of soldering every time?
shooting
14th January, 2017, 02:16 PM
Which upa do i need to buy or pony programmer
Be nice if i can ise a clip for 24c chips instead of soldering every time?
Maybe look at Post #17 :vroam:
wbr
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 02:18 PM
If i buy this will it do all i need?
What software do i use?
Look at this on eBay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152069847771
CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 Clip On-Board
Picked tbis one as it has the clip to
Cheers
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 02:21 PM
There are different things on the page i dont know wha is wha lol
Im pretty new to this type of thing
Cheers
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 02:27 PM
Is it this that i need?
https://secure.shareit.com/shareit/product.html?productid=300621817
shooting
14th January, 2017, 02:38 PM
If i buy this will it do all i need?
What software do i use?
Look at this on eBay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152069847771
CH341A 24 25 Series EEPROM Flash BIOS USB Programmer + SOIC8 Clip On-Board
Picked tbis one as it has the clip to
Cheers
If you buy them Separate you will not pay as much... Programmer is 3 euros and Chip-Clip is 4 euros total 7 euros
wbr
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 08:22 PM
Ok but that will do what i need it to do and its easy enough to get software up and running?
shooting
14th January, 2017, 08:28 PM
Ok but that will do what i need it to do and its easy enough to get software up and running?
It comes with the software, and is common software all over the net...
wbr
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 08:31 PM
Ok sound
Buying the bits now
Im sure you will hear from me again when i get the bits
In the meantime gonna try and change the 74hc chips in carprog and see what happens
Cheers
dkenny
14th January, 2017, 08:32 PM
I think i will eventually buy a upa aswell
Depends how into it i get and what purposes i find it useful for
Anyone elaborate on anything else?
Mainly want for odometer repairs 😬
Citrina
15th January, 2017, 06:44 PM
Hi all
Iv just tried decoding my cdr2005 siemans with my carprog using the a10 adaptor
I manahed to read a code and id but the code was 5 digits long
86800
Has it read incorrectly or do i. Eed to do something else and is. Y carprog capable?
Cheers
turn off radio and try with carprog read again and again
dkenny
15th January, 2017, 08:35 PM
Eeprom off board now
Waiting for my bios programmer and clip to arrive but gonna change chips in carprog tomorrow and see if i get any luck as per code card website
Gonna be a bit of a challenge to desolder and resolder chips back on
dkenny
16th January, 2017, 08:35 AM
It all depends on the quality of the build, but I also know a guy who had the fully paid up original Carprog and he said that if he had the chance again he would've got something else :ambivalence:
Clones always seem to have their little glitches, missing features or strange characteristics with any auto-tools. The discussion on Carprog clone is endless. Read from this page to see similar cases of not being able to work with 24c chips:
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/247647-CARPROG-FULL/page74
Whatever you do, don't go near a VW RNS-510 navi with it - some people have made some lovely looking doorstops out of those navis by using Carprog clone :rofl:
so if I replace 74HC125D chips with 4 new 74HC125D chips then chances are my carprog will work?
should I stick to 74HC125D chips or buy a different type of 74HC chip?
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:12 PM
hi all
my ch431a programmer arrived and iv just m,anaged to read the info from the chip
is there any way i can use the car prog software to get the code or not?
iv loaded .bin fille into phillips>24c16> and then opened bin file but i cannot get anything to work!
would like to of tried to work out for myself or does anyone have any other software i can use???
want to be able to write info for odomoter changes in future to etc
cheers
i cannot seem to upload the .bin file eithere???
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:21 PM
how do i upload the .bin file lol?
cheers
shooting
24th January, 2017, 02:28 PM
how do i upload the .bin file lol?
cheers
When replying use "Go Advanced" then click Paperclip and add there...
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:38 PM
Says the format is incorrect???
juisro
24th January, 2017, 02:41 PM
You have to compress it with winrar or winzip
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:46 PM
423599423599
shooting
24th January, 2017, 02:49 PM
423599423599
Your code is 5036
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:49 PM
ahh think that has worked
downloading the curde software aswell now to
hopefully that should work
basically carprog is hopeless and i think this ch341a programmer with soic clip will prove more useful!
juisro
24th January, 2017, 02:50 PM
Hi your code is 5036
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:51 PM
how did you do that!
and how do i thank you to!
cheers
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 02:56 PM
been looking through the info and cannot see 5036 anywhere lol
how does it work?!
hahaha
shooting
24th January, 2017, 03:00 PM
been looking through the info and cannot see 5036 anywhere lol
how does it work?!
hahaha
It's encrypted and we use an algorithm to convert it to a code ;)
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 03:01 PM
can you share the software?
shooting
24th January, 2017, 03:07 PM
can you share the software?
Algorithm not Software... I use my brain ;)
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 03:11 PM
show me how
im interested in learning
cheers haha
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:26 PM
next question
the current headunit is a cc20
if I disconnect to try the cdr2005 will the cc20 be locked if I try to refit?
is there anyway of retrieving the code before hand or will it not matter as long as I refit back in my vehicle?
cheers
shooting
24th January, 2017, 05:32 PM
next question
the current headunit is a cc20
if I disconnect to try the cdr2005 will the cc20 be locked if I try to refit?
is there anyway of retrieving the code before hand or will it not matter as long as I refit back in my vehicle?
cheers
If you disconnect the CC20 you will need to decode it
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:35 PM
So can i do that with carprog or ch341a programmer the same as what i have done to cdr2005?
shooting
24th January, 2017, 05:37 PM
So can i do that with carprog or ch341a programmer the same as what i have done to cdr2005?
Use this to see what chip you have.... there are a few radio's called CC20
http://codedradio.info/?i=bn&st=cc20
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:41 PM
I think mine is the bottom one
I have 7 643 103 311 next to barcode
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:44 PM
I have
Blaupunkt
453116246
022668
No: 13 140 941
Type: cc20
Th9
70.03.01
Ds
Sw freeze data:- 26.03.2004/0
Barcode 0020
Barcode 4. 3682634
7 643 102 311
shooting
24th January, 2017, 05:45 PM
I think mine is the bottom one
I have 7 643 103 311 next to barcode
Then the chip is a 95640 (25640), does your programmer have a setting for this chip?
wbr
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:46 PM
When it says immobiliser that means its paired to vehicle so no code needed to refit?
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:46 PM
Im not sure
Its the cheap one off ebay from earlier on in thread
shooting
24th January, 2017, 05:47 PM
When it says immobiliser that means its paired to vehicle so no code needed to refit?
It can be CAN or Cancheck (Fiat) or VIN coded... or both
wbr
KierAn20
24th January, 2017, 05:49 PM
I have
Blaupunkt
453116246
022668
No: 13 140 941
Type: cc20
Th9
70.03.01
Ds
Sw freeze data:- 26.03.2004/0
Barcode 0020
Barcode 4. 3682634
7 643 102 311
That CC-20 definitely won't ask you for any code - it is already married to your display. They don't require a pin code to be entered when you disconnect / reconnect them.
One thing you definitely won't be able to do though is replace it with a CDR-2005 cd player I'm afraid. You need a Vauxhall CD-30 cd player buddy.
HTH
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 05:52 PM
Ahhh bastard lol 😂
Gone to all this edfort to decode and it wont even work 😂😂😂
Why is that?
Display not compatible or something?
KierAn20
24th January, 2017, 05:53 PM
Ahhh bastard lol
Gone to all this edfort to decode and it wont even work
Why is that?
Display not compatible or something?
CDR-2005 talks on normal serial comms and CC-20 talks on CAN network. Even the plugs are completely different bud....
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 06:03 PM
When the cdr2005 was removed feom car it had an adaptor loom so someone must of had it fitted into a later corsa then butnot had the display working 😂😂😂
Ah well
Least iv learnt that carprog clones will not read 24c chips and a ebay programmer will and that not all vauxhall stereos even though they look the same are not compatible 😂😂😂
dkenny
24th January, 2017, 06:06 PM
Iv learnt how to read 24c chips to which was the main aim of the exercise!
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