MERCEDES BENZ Key specialist please help!!!

[garabounga]

Hallo DK members,
I have here a mercedes vito with ezs hc09 i readed dump load it to fvdi das 3 key maker so far the dump is ok and fvdi ask if i want to generate key i deed i have now on my desktop ezs.bin what next ? Do i have to write the ezs.bin with a IR programmer to key?can i use a second hand key?i saw also some thing about skc calculator .is my generated key ready to use ?or is there another steps to take ?it wil be very nice if you help with that .thanx to all

[rokibar]

send here ezs dump for next step.

[garabounga]

Thanx rokibar i wanted to khnow the steps if i post the dump what are you going to do with it iwant to khnow how it works is my generated key file as i describe on my post useable ?

[ben21]

You can't write bin file to the key.

You need first key file.

You can use second hand key but je can only program it on board if original ( desolder nec chip en write it)

I m not familiar with FVDI

[rokibar]

Thanx rokibar i wanted to khnow the steps if i post the dump what are you going to do with it iwant to khnow how it works is my generated key file as i describe on my post useable ?
we will check your dump and calculate keys for you. my friend told me fvdi can't calculate keys right. next you have to write one of calculated in your key. if all ok start the car.

[garabounga]

Ok i wil post dump

[garabounga]

431906

Here you have original file when i generate key with fvdi i get 2 files ezs.bin and key.bin

[garabounga]

Really curious to hear what you have to say.

[rola1971]

431906

Here you have original file when i generate key with fvdi i get 2 files ezs.bin and key.bin

431908

it is you keys

1key is turn off

[garabounga]

Are the generated files are good? can i whrite the key.bin with ir programmer i presume when fvdi generated the files is one ezs.bin to write back to ezs and the key.bin to write with a ir programmer to the key.

[MVVL]

Hey. Your dump there is a problem.

[garabounga]

Hey. Your dump there is a problem.

Hai my concern is more the 2 files that fvdi generates is there any goods in it ?

[Po lock]

If by FVDI you mean Abrites. Abrites can NOT write to china keys. Must be either Abrites keys OR a OEM virgin NEC key.

[Po lock]

Basic steps for mercedes keys.
1. read hash and get password. either by IR or EIS MCU.
2. once you have Dump with password. Run it through a key calculator. it will generate your keys and tell you your used and open spots.
3. you do not write anything to the EIS. Hell at this point if you removed the EIS you can go ahead and reinstall...half way anyhow. you know just incase you didnt put the MCU on right.
4. Pick the slot you want to make your key for. (If you pick a used slot and the customer finds his/her keys of the slot you wrote to eventually one of the keys will stop working)
5. ALL Abrites, OEM, and china keys write through IR.... or you could remove the NEC if you do not have a IR reader/writer ( abrites keys and china can be zeroed out through IR too! if you want to use a used OEM key you will have to take the NEC off and zero it out that way)
6. Now test your key. put into EIS. You will see the light on the remote blink as it is being introduces to the car which activates the key. Pull key in and out of EIS if it is being a bugger.
7. Read your key to make sure it is activated.
8. DONE

[vageric]

If by FVDI you mean Abrites. Abrites can NOT write to china keys. Must be either Abrites keys OR a OEM virgin NEC key.

No FVDI is not Abritus original but a copy of Abritus Original.

[garabounga]

Basic steps for mercedes keys.
1. read hash and get password. either by IR or EIS MCU.
2. once you have Dump with password. Run it through a key calculator. it will generate your keys and tell you your used and open spots.
3. you do not write anything to the EIS. Hell at this point if you removed the EIS you can go ahead and reinstall...half way anyhow. you know just incase you didnt put the MCU on right.
4. Pick the slot you want to make your key for. (If you pick a used slot and the customer finds his/her keys of the slot you wrote to eventually one of the keys will stop working)
5. ALL Abrites, OEM, and china keys write through IR.... or you could remove the NEC if you do not have a IR reader/writer ( abrites keys and china can be zeroed out through IR too! if you want to use a used OEM key you will have to take the NEC off and zero it out that way)
6. Now test your key. put into EIS. You will see the light on the remote blink as it is being introduces to the car which activates the key. Pull key in and out of EIS if it is being a bugger.
7. Read your key to make sure it is activated.
8. DONE

PO lock thats exactly what i wanted to hear thank you very much for your explanation im much wijzer now .i dont khnow if you are familiar with FVDI as by the option esl i have an option with calculate passwoord can i use this one, the problem is there is not a lot of users who succeded to make a key with fvdi as far as i khnow in DK i mean . maybe itis possible maybe not thats why i wanted to khnow why after i loaded dump and push generate key i get this two files ezs.bin and key bin what is the use of it if itis a usable file maybe i can write them back with a use of a IR key programmers that are in the market now like benz ir programmer.

Thats why i posted the twoo files that FVDI generated can i use them or its bulshit file?

[rokibar]

do not complicate your life with cheap tools, especially at mercedes cars. as you can see ezs not personalised. if want try use keys which rola calculated for you. just advice you, ats all.

[Po lock]

I hope the Abrites way of doing the Mercedes is of some help with using the FVDI.

[Po lock]

Rokibar is correct about the bootleg tools. I took that route for things that could be done via OBD. No harm no foul.....except a nissan the SKP900 jacked up. If its a german or Italian or British car. up your toolage for sure. Mercedes tools I know that work are of course Abrites, Simon Touch, and VVDI MB. If you like a true recommendation feel free to message me.

[garabounga]

thanx mate for you answer what i wanted from this thread if that some one look with me if FVDI does change the original ezs file when you push generate so far thank you all with your answers and help really appreciate . what i wanted to khnow the most is what in the files that FVDI generate i dont have no Benz software to check dat i mean with the 2 files EZS.bin and Key.bin that i posted earlier

i compare the original and the ezs.bin file with compare bin tool there is some data chnage but what i dont khnow and key.bin is much smaller likes like hc05 bin that you find in motorola key. that why i wanted to khnow if some one can check just the 2 files it wil be nice.

Thank you all!

[garabounga]

ok another question i have ezs reader tool + im gone buy skc calculator + orderd Benz Key Programmer For Benz IR Code Reader the cheap one for 39 euros. can i make a key with this three ?

[rokibar]

yes, you can but not newer models.

[garabounga]

Hallo DK members,

i was searching for a good programmer to write key like the IR programmer like i told you earlier, i just cancelled my order the reason why i just came cross something i think good im really hoping for breaking news here , i found a chinese mercedes oem key with 24c02 chip in it, it means that i dont have a ir programmer to do it i can write the key directly with my xprog after that the key is generated with skc with all formats 0.11 .051 ect ect did you khnow that ?

[MarkPRP]

Hallo DK members,

i was searching for a good programmer to write key like the IR programmer like i told you earlier, i just cancelled my order the reason why i just came cross something i think good im really hoping for breaking news here , i found a chinese mercedes oem key with 24c02 chip in it, it means that i dont have a ir programmer to do it i can write the key directly with my xprog after that the key is generated with skc with all formats 0.11 .051 ect ect did you khnow that ?

Good luck with that, it's about 7 years old and didn't work back then.

Buy real tools or don't buy anything. ~~~~ing Chinese tools for $39?? For Mercedes keys? How professional are you? How much do you charge for a key?


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[obdsystems]

Good shout, can't understand wanting crappy tools for nothing when good kit available.


Guess they stuff their millions under the mattress :)

[garabounga]

Keep calm gentelmen iam just exploring this way to learn how to do mercedes keys extra service for some clients i dont have them that much hier in holland they charge 175 euro voor a key not so much difference with the dealer .before i order the real thing iam just exploring OK . iam interested also in Diagspeed do you have experience with that tool ? or is vvdi mb beter ?

[lpf01]

Nobody do theese mutch cheaper i think, if do its a suicide.
Here in Hungary we basically charge between 150 and 200, dealer price is around 300-350.
On this price you need to make 15 keys where you get back your investment ( if go with vvdi bga, plus a few BE remotes), and earned zero, so 175 is not a horrible price i think.

[garabounga]

Nobody do theese mutch cheaper i think, if do its a suicide.
Here in Hungary we basically charge between 150 and 200, dealer price is around 300-350.
On this price you need to make 15 keys where you get back your investment ( if go with vvdi bga, plus a few BE remotes), and earned zero, so 175 is not a horrible price i think.


thanx mate for your reply voor me was the question if invest in good tool can i get my money back ? as i sayed the dealer charge hier around 175 euro the only min point is that you have to wait 2-3 days before you get the keys in all key lost situation ,thats why i wanted first to try with what cheaper clones not on customer cars but on used parts that i have here to get a lone with it, i dont khnow yet how much i wil charge when i get a good tool the only plus is that customer dont have to wait couple of days to use the car. maybe i wil take that in my advantage.

[CaioW]

Friend.

Just buy one VVDI MB TOOL and be happy.

You can make keys by IR, have online calculation tool for the new models and some old models to..

So dont spend your health in shit tools, you will spend alot of time in how to solve some problems the shitty tools make.. so.. buy some GOOD tools and be happy.

[garabounga]

Friend.

Just buy one VVDI MB TOOL and be happy.

You can make keys by IR, have online calculation tool for the new models and some old models to..

So dont spend your health in shit tools, you will spend alot of time in how to solve some problems the shitty tools make.. so.. buy some GOOD tools and be happy.

thanx mate for your advice i wil keep it in mind.

[vageric]

i sure dont believe that dealer ask 170 euro for a vito key.
in Germany they ask more then 170 euro so in Holland for sure they ask more then that.

[garabounga]

i sure dont believe that dealer ask 170 euro for a vito key.
in Germany they ask more then 170 euro so in Holland for sure they ask more then that.

call them!

[vageric]

call them!

i have called them and it cost 460 euro without vat.

[garabounga]

Thanx for the info wich one did you called in wich city? de guy i spoke from RUTTCHEN auto wereld (Mercedes Dealer) in Breda says 170 EX btw for a w203.

[CaioW]

170 + PROGRAMATION + taxes

pretty sure

[garabounga]

i called today again it costs 255 ex btw per key and the guy says they have to change also the mechanical part of it it wil kost 1000 euro in total:nightmare::nightmare::nightmare::nightmare: thats not the 170 euro that the guy says earlier , i think i wil go for it MB keys .....

[vageric]

i have make a mistake.
i thought you had problem with ezs.
price i have give is from ezs not from key.
NO 1 key cost 1000 euro.
the price they have give from 170 euro is correct.

[garabounga]

i have make a mistake.
i thought you had problem with ezs.
price i have give is from ezs not from key.
NO 1 key cost 1000 euro.
the price they have give from 170 euro is correct.

hhhh no problem miscommunication