Ducato >2010 remote Marelli 7946/47

[p1et]

If there is 7946 originally, can I program 7947? Will remote work?

[mikajna]

If there is 7946 originally, can I program 7947? Will remote work?
Yes, if you use Zed Full, Zed Bull original, Abrites original or Tmpro2...in other case, it will not work

[p1et]

Thanks. Precoding by Tango will not work for sure? Then add with MVP.

[Atex31]

PCF7947 will work as long as the remote is designed for Marelli BSi not Delphi BSi.

[p1et]

PCF7947 will work as long as the remote is designed for Marelli BSi not Delphi BSi.

That's good. Will report results.

[mikajna]

I think Tango cant prepare remote configuration for both models, only transponder part. That mean key will start car, but remote will not work...in that way and effi could make key, but remote algo can make those few tools only, for Magneti Marelli...

[p1et]

I think Tango cant prepare remote configuration for both models, only transponder part. That mean key will start car, but remote will not work...in that way and effi could make key, but remote algo can make those few tools only, for Magneti Marelli...

Yeah, it seems like that. Don't know why Tango makers cannot do this function yet... MiraClone can do this and Tango no? For me strange. At least I have MiraClone so I will buy module for this. Knowing life, when I buy, Tango will implement that function next week :biggrin:

[mikajna]

Hehehe, thats life :) I feel that many, many time :)

[alex1881]

Tango prepares only the transponder,I do that job with zed full,firts read the eeprom and prepare with zed full,don't modify the dump,saves the pin and the program via obd2,even with FVDI.

[p1et]

Tango prepares only the remote,I do that job with zed full,firts read the eeprom and prepare with zed full,don't modify the dump,saves the pin and the program via obd2,even with FVDI.

You mean transponder only?

[alex1881]

sorry,transponder only,my mistake

[Cr4nky]

Miraclone module works well for these.

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[Rawwen]

Hi Friends.
I check it too :(
Tango prepare only 7946 for immo, remote not work.
Check it with Ducato 2012, 2013 and Citroen Jumper 2013. MagnetiMarelli BSI.
And if You have pin for car, and try to program remote key via Lexia or Diagbox for Citroen for example, it didn't work too if PCF7946 was prepared by Tango.
Only immo will be programmed.

[p1et]

I did job with miraclone with pcf 7946. No time to verify if 7947 work also but I believe Atex31. Price of eeprom package returned after 1 job so I'm happy and I can do Iveco also

[Rawwen]

Sprawdź PW P1et :)

[M3L3R]

Which device can prepare key with remote control for proper coding? I tried today with citroen relay and unsuccessful, car stars but remote doesnt work.

[p1et]

Which device can prepare key with remote control for proper coding? I tried today with citroen relay and unsuccessful, car stars but remote doesnt work.

Everything in this thread, especially in post #2. I personally use miraclone as been said here.

[rob h]

A remote key, ordered by vin.
Learned with pin.
Might that work!?

[klesk1986]

A remote key, ordered by vin.
Learned with pin.
Might that work!?

Yes, because dealer got precoded keys

[reks13]

I could prepare remote by dump bcm, need write rcfg and rsk

[Bllinda]

@Reks13
Is it possible to wet the prepared remote? Thx

P.S. I upload a damp

[M3L3R]

I precoded by abrites and coded by obd. All ok.

[Faraday]

Did you try to precode by vvdi2?

[Bllinda]

Yeah, it seems like that. Don't know why Tango makers cannot do this function yet... MiraClone can do this and Tango no? For me strange. At least I have MiraClone so I will buy module for this. Knowing life, when I buy, Tango will implement that function next week :biggrin:

I do not have MiraClone either tango.

Hi Friends.
I check it too :(
Tango prepare only 7946 for immo, remote not work.
Check it with Ducato 2012, 2013 and Citroen Jumper 2013. MagnetiMarelli BSI.
And if You have pin for car, and try to program remote key via Lexia or Diagbox for Citroen for example, it didn't work too if PCF7946 was prepared by Tango.
Only immo will be programmed.



I precoded by abrites and coded by obd. All ok.

I do not have either Abritus nor vvdi2.



Did you try to precode by vvdi2?

Cpf,7946/47.... ....
xx xx xx xx sn/ide These data relate to immobilisation
4D 49 4B 52 cr/isk/lo
00 00 4F 4E cr/isk/hi
06 AA 48 54 tmcf/psw


4D 49 4B 52 psk Lo
00 00 4F 4E psk Hi
ar
00 00 00 00 psk/Lo and these data relate to the central lock.
00 00 FF FF psk/Hi
xx xx xx xx pcf/(RCFG)
xx xx xx xx sync

body bcm .rar (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=510838&d=1519984031) (855 Bytes, 4 views) archive pass:reks13

What needs to be written to the transponder?
To make a central lock and inmo?

Thank you all for the answers. Men.

[turboracing]

i dont think any one nows the remote config i try to figure it many times but not succesfull i use avdi ori and tmpro 2 original it simply just works on fiat based cars so i stopp try figure it out


tango only do transponder

[Bllinda]

The original software is done so that it is unlikely to be understood. And this can only be done if we always have time to do this work.


i dont think any one nows the remote config i try to figure it many times but not succesfull i use avdi ori and tmpro 2 original it simply just works on fiat based cars so i stopp try figure it out


tango only do transponder

[TeL200]

I did job with miraclone with pcf 7946. No time to verify if 7947 work also

I have used PCF7947AT instead of PCF7946AT many times in Delphi and Magneti Marelli.

[DiReCtX]

@Bllinda
I made a key with a remote control but with TMPRO, I wanted to locate where the RSK Lo, RSK Hi and RCF in eeprom but key made by tmpro write config (page 3) FF AA 48 54 so unable to read remote data (ISK Lo, ISK Hi found by ioterminal) maybe next version iot do this (now full support all kind fiat delphi body)
Regards

[milzal]

In Jumper Marelli BCU with 95640. I program with original AVDI Fiat key tool, i set right PCF7946+10/16 SSOP Chip (key is pcf4946 with 10 SSOP), but remote not work right. Unlock button lock car, other not work. Programmer with Diagbox, car run but remote not work right.
How can solve this problem ?

[p1et]

In Jumper Marelli BCU with 95640. I program with original AVDI Fiat key tool, i set right PCF7946+10/16 SSOP Chip (key is pcf4946 with 10 SSOP), but remote not work right. Unlock button lock car, other not work. Programmer with Diagbox, car run but remote not work right.
How can solve this problem ?

You have wrong remote. You need Marelli remote with 8 leg chip.

[milzal]

OK, thank you for answer. And how use this board ? Is not 8 or 10/16 leg chip.

[p1et]

This is chinese key so you must know what type is it. I don't even know if this will work properly. I always use original keys for Fiat.

[didi_du_93000]

Hello,

Any news about remote config for Ducato Marelli BCM???

no solution to read RSK HI/LO from learned remote????

[HeXeN]

Look into chinese pcb. Change position of this resistor will change your key between Delphi/Marelli