Where to buy clone? Kess and Ktag from?

[kubuswujo]

Hi!
I am starting with chiptunning and firstly want to buy a chineese version of chiptunning interfeces.
I allready have an MPPS v16 but also need at least

KTAG
KESS
FGTECH

i think that will be fine for beginning (Or should I buy sth more?).

But as everyone knows chineese price is chineese quality. And not every seller have the same quality and i am willing to pay 200$ more to have good quality rather than paying less but destroying everything.

So can You give me some links to good aliexpress sellers? Or any other links or PM to people how sells good interfaces?


Thanks in advance,
Kuba


P.S.The difference in price is very big Kess can cost from 70$ up to 500$?
Is any of that set worth buying?:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Free-Ktag-KESS-V2-V4-036-Galletto-4-FGtech-V54-BDM-Frame-K-tag-K/32811501216.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-46&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-V5-017-Really-No-Tokens-Kess-V2-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-Kess-V2-Master-Version/32807840334.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-11&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-KESS-V2-V2-30-4-036-HW-V4-036-MASTER-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-No/32798663309.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-6&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545

[pulsar2000]

All same, whatever you buy will have inferior components,
so always always will need rework to be half good tool,
they will lie and send you other photos, all they do is sell box inside no idea,
theres better EU clones can be bought that are good tools not requiring reworks as good to go

[kubuswujo]

Ok @Pulsar2000 so where to buy those better EU Clones that do not need to rework?

[Stig33]

I think the best eu clones is here:

www.car-prog.com (http://www.car-prog.com)

[kubuswujo]

@Stig33 the site is "under construction"

EDIT:
Here i have a google copy of the site:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=pl (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Lf326tWT0tcJ:car-prog.com/+&cd=1&hl=pl&ct=clnk&gl=pl)



I I want to pay sth like 1500 Euro
What interfaces and which versions would You recommend on start to do the most vehicles?
Buy Galleto for 500$ and Kess or KTAG?

Which versions?

[Alan Andersson]

Maybe you can buy kess 5017 or ktag 7020 eu fw,anyone bought from this website before?I saw they are also selling same tools in ebay.
http://race-technik.com/en/

[pulsar2000]

Maybe you can buy kess 5017 or ktag 7020 eu fw,anyone bought from this website before?I saw they are also selling same tools in ebay.
http://race-technik.com/en/

Yes reworked FW - nothing else so china board with later fw and sd card,
not a reworked board, which is why Crap tool still, until board has all the inferior parts changed will fail on certain ecu`s

[kubuswujo]

But i Have read many good opinion about reworked china staff.
You have also said to me that reworked KTag is perfect. so why now You are telling that reworked stuff is rubbish?

[gazvts]

Alan over priced china sh!t

[kubuswujo]

Alan over priced china sh!t


Sorry @gazvts i didn't understand

[peko]

Yes reworked FW - nothing else so china board with later fw and sd card,
not a reworked board, which is why Crap tool still, until board has all the inferior parts changed will fail on certain ecu`s

who test this web ?

[obdsystems]

Hi!
I am starting with chiptunning and firstly want to buy a chineese version of chiptunning interfeces.
I allready have an MPPS v16 but also need at least

KTAG
KESS
FGTECH

i think that will be fine for beginning (Or should I buy sth more?).

But as everyone knows chineese price is chineese quality. And not every seller have the same quality and i am willing to pay 200$ more to have good quality rather than paying less but destroying everything.

So can You give me some links to good aliexpress sellers? Or any other links or PM to people how sells good interfaces?



Thanks in advance,
Kuba


P.S.The difference in price is very big Kess can cost from 70$ up to 500$?
Is any of that set worth buying?:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Free-Ktag-KESS-V2-V4-036-Galletto-4-FGtech-V54-BDM-Frame-K-tag-K/32811501216.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-46&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-V5-017-Really-No-Tokens-Kess-V2-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-Kess-V2-Master-Version/32807840334.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-11&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Newest-KESS-V2-V2-30-4-036-HW-V4-036-MASTER-OBD2-Manager-Tuning-Kit-No/32798663309.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb 201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157 _10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_100 55_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_ 10147_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10171_10 084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_ 10113_10114_10037_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10 073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=11a748b5-f665-4aa0-9504-0311cd642d08&algo_expid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545-6&algo_pvid=551c8020-c5d1-4573-baa8-eddcbb320545


Amuses me this - your starting a tuning business. What about those who have bought genuine and your willing to pay wow $200

[raceshadow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAiV56rzNPc

This clone looks great. I wrote with the guy who owns this video and wants 750 euros for it. PCB from Germany. Componant from farnell and mouser. And cables also from the EU. Without Tokens.

[autoSP]

None are good!. under the oscilator alientech emired a bulleting that adds a few components for edc17 ecus none of these have.
U really dont think that same tool same HW from 10 years ago can read new ecus just by software upgrade?