VDO 8P0920983 on table

[mrle9]

Hi ,

I try to power on a cluster VDO 8P0920983 on table .

I connected the cluster like this :

Pin 1-2-18 to +12V

pin 3-4-19 to ground

pin 5 to pin 13 of gateway (gateway wake up)
pin 29 to pin 18 of gateway (can HIGH)
pin 30 to pin 8 of gateway (can LOW)




but when I plug the power to the cluster nothing happen , the cluster don't power up :grumpy:

Am I missing something ?

Thank you in advance for your help.
Bye

EDIT : Sorry for the double post I made a mistake :orange:, if a moderator can delete my previous post it would be great

[lupu_sandu]

You are missing search function

[mrle9]

Thank you lupu_sandu for your answer .

no i didn't missed the search and I found your thread http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/252521-Audi-A3-Dash-power-up/page2

and I am in the same state like you

I read it 10 times and I'm pretty sure the answer is in this thread but I have difficulty to understand some answer of other member ...

anyway I continue my search ;)

thanks

[lupu_sandu]

Search in my post and you will find.
You need bordnetz also. I post on DK pinout of CGW, dash + bornetz on table.
LE:
HERE > http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/543648-Audi-A3-Sportback-8P0920932K-VAG-K-CAN-COMMANDER-DIED-CDC3217G?p=2833201&viewfull=1#post2833201

[mrle9]

Thank you again lupu_sandu :congrats:

I will read your post because it seem there are usefull ;)

I don't have a bordnetz under the hand , until I got a bordnetz I will search on the arduino project because i found a youtube video where a guy use an arduino for wake up the cluster see it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCMpA1VCYuU

I will try to find information .

Thanks again

to be continued ... ;)
Bye

[yugo45]

Thank you again lupu_sandu :congrats:

I will read your post because it seem there are usefull ;)

I don't have a bordnetz under the hand , until I got a bordnetz I will search on the arduino project because i found a youtube video where a guy use an arduino for wake up the cluster see it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCMpA1VCYuU

I will try to find information .

Thanks again

to be continued ... ;)
Bye

If you make this happen , please let us know , it will be nice to have something like this.


Thanks

[mrle9]

yes of course no problem ;)

at the moment I can only say that the hardware needed is an arduino board and a Can-bus shield board.

to be continued... ;)

[Maartinj]

Search in my post and you will find.
You need bordnetz also. I post on DK pinout of CGW, dash + bornetz on table.
LE:
HERE > http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/543648-Audi-A3-Sportback-8P0920932K-VAG-K-CAN-COMMANDER-DIED-CDC3217G?p=2833201&viewfull=1#post2833201
No need bordnetz, no need GW, need just proper CAN command to wake up cluster and keep live

[mrle9]

Thanks Maartinj
(http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/218296-Maartinj)
Do you have technical information about these proper CAN command for wake up and keep it alive ?

[lupu_sandu]

True, you need CAN commands and a canbus device to send them.
BUT, you can get bordnetz+cgw at any scrapyard and build A3 test bench for a few $$$

[H2Deetoo]

Easiest solution: log canbus in working car, then extract those commands which are relevant by trial and error.

[mrle9]

agree with you lupu_sandu (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/61191-lupu_sandu)the easiest and faster way is the bordnetz and I will got one next week ;)

but I will also try later to log canbus and build the good frame for wake up the cluster with the arduino way ;)

[mrle9]

Hi ,

I got a bordnetz but it is a new generation unit (8p0907063M of 2011).
This BCM as 3 connector of 52 pin.

I try to find the pinout for power on my Dashboard but i have no luck at the moment .

Here what connection I try :

CAN Gateway:
12v: 1,2
12v IGN: 14
GND: 11,12
CAN Dash: 8 (CanH) 18 (CanL)
WakeupDash: 13
CAN Diag: 9 (CanH) 19(CanL)
CAN Bordnetz: 5(CanH) 15(CanL)

Dash:
12v: 1,2,18
GND: 3,4,19
CAN Wakeup: 5
CAN: 29(CanH),30 (CanL)


Bordnetz :

Plug A :
+12v : 24
GND : 23

Plug C:
+12v : 13,14,31,34
GND : 30
CAN H: 15
CAN L: 16


Is there someone that already powerup a Dashboard with this type of bordnetz ?
Am I miising something ?
any help are welcome .

Thank you per advance.
Bye

[mrle9]

Hi ,

I finally found the good pinout for power a Dashboard with a new BCM .

see below the good pinout :peaceful:


CAN Gateway:
12v: 1,2
12v IGN: 14
GND: 11,12
CAN Dash: 8 (CanH) 18 (CanL)
WakeupDash: 13
CAN Diag: 9 (CanH) 19(CanL)
CAN Bordnetz: 5(CanL) 15(CanH)

Dash:
+12v: 1,2,18
GND: 3,4,19
CAN Wakeup: 5
CAN: 29(CanH),30 (CanL)


Bordnetz :
Plug B :
+12v: 42
GND: 52


Plug C:
+12v : 31
CAN H: 15
CAN L: 16


I hope this help others ;)

Bye

[tec.guilherme]

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[A3fDevil666]

My bench whit old bnst


CAN Gateway:
12v: 1,2
12v IGN: 14
GND: 11,12
CAN Dash: 8 (CanH) 18 (CanL)
WakeupDash: 13
CAN Diag: 9 (CanH) 19(CanL)
CAN Bordnetz: 5(CanH) 15(CanL)

Dash:
12v: 1,2,18
GND: 3,4,19
CAN Wakeup: 5
CAN: 29(CanH),30 (CanL)

Bornetz:
Plug A:
12v+: 1
GND: 9

Plug F:
12v+ IGN:2

Plug G:
CAN H: 8
CAN L: 7
12v+ IGN: 11

Plug K:
12v+: 5

[tec.guilherme]

Hi You know how do this

[tec.guilherme]

Hello I solve all problem with 8P0 Cluster New and Old BCM Bordnetz, I can connect and wake-up testes here 100%. Thanks a lot for all of help and telling me details.