Help! Is it possible to reset the warning light of Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC)

[tkinyan]

I have DAS with developers mode , is it possible to reset the warning light of Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) with the DAS by myself? And could you tell me the procedures?

[milkatrek]

u need use special soft from tmw


WBR

[bynow3]

If you really want to do it, don't forget to renew collector brushes on hydraulic pump of the module. Otherwise an accident may occur (due to brakes failure)...

[ibm]

Use the expanded guarantee at your dealer.

[Meat-Head]

If you really want to do it, don't forget to renew collector brushes on hydraulic pump of the module. Otherwise an accident may occur (due to brakes failure)...

please explain more

[z786]

u need use special soft from tmw


WBR
wat is name of special soft??

[nothing]

TMW such a liers , and you don't need then t-box you can do that using star

[Meat-Head]

TMW such a liers , and you don't need then t-box you can do that using star


so what happens in real life happens on a virtual life, "same story differant version"

[nguyennhatquang]

yes, i have a Mercedes W211 E240, 2003 model, you can reset the SBC light.
i go to workshop and they said
the SBC light come on with 2 reason :
1 : you over 300.000 times press the brake pedal.
2 : SBC die.
if your car in reason 1 like my car, all you need is update the software to it via Star Diagnostic, maybe it need a developer mode, but i don't know exactly, i have a star too, but i don't know how to do it.
i pay 100$ for update sofware to SBC, i'll try to learn, it is very fast, take you about 5 minutes, when i learn success, i'll teach you.

[Dajan2009]

Hi, I work in a MB workshop and I had reset the warning light from SBC many times, and I can tell You that You can't do it only with DAS, but You need a special adapter. Second thing, even if they reset it one of two failure will happen:
1. a hidraulic valve inside the block will leak and the car will have a tendency to spin while braking.
2. the pump will stop ( brushes) and Your car will be without brakes except the parking one.
If You go to a dealer he MUST reset it or replace it for free, without any excuses! The only reason that Mercedes could reject a claim for a new SBC is a manipulated milleage.
Sorry for my english, hope this info helps..:ciao:
Dajan

[snelle rabbit]

hi,

dajan2009 is right, the dealer will reset counter or replace sbc unit for 99% for free. IF MILAGE IS CORRECT.


greetings

[Qrius]

I have DAS with developers mode , is it possible to reset the warning light of Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) with the DAS by myself? And could you tell me the procedures?

oke here is how to
Make sure engine is running !!!

In Developer mode you need to go to Entwickelingsdaten - > ansteueringen -> Gesamstliste aller Ansteuerungen

to see how many times brake has been pressed there is a line that says: Bremsenzahler (DJ_GetBrLive)

then 1 line down there you see Bremsenzahler aktualisieren und Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen -> click it !
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

1 line down Bremsenzahler auf beliebigen Wert setzen (DJ_SetNBr) -> click it
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3


then scroll down untill you see the line's :

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (DJ_CalcLiveTime)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen und schreiben (DJ_BuildAndWriteF)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Log out of SBC !!
log out of verhicle !!

let engine run at least 10 minutes or drive at least 10 minutes

If no coils are damaged , SBC fault code is not AKTUEL nomore ;)

If you think this would help you :wink:
Please dot not forget to click THANKS

[tisa]

Better you go to your Mercedes Dealer you can get a Pump four free

[nothing]

but you have to write "300.000" in (Dj_setNBr) right ?

[Qrius]

but you have to write "300.000" in (Dj_setNBr) right ?

Wrong !! ;)
(Dj_setNBr) Here you SET new brake counter value back to 0
(Dj_setNBr) uINBR = 0

[weryo]

Thanks Qrius,...

I think there is a line that better could be more than zerro,....what about 10.000 in Dj_setNBR ?

[robertrobert]

Hi friends,
i need someone good advice, i wanna buy star diagnos, tell me guys if u know a good dealer, some good quality interface and cables?
does it always come with XNTRY and DEVELEPPOR MODE ?
thank u guys

[gofo]

Try from JC Recordings
he is a Master in DAS installation, and he sells these units

It means he will support you with software, installations all time, realy is worth the money...

[Dajan2009]

Hi friends,
i need someone good advice, i wanna buy star diagnos, tell me guys if u know a good dealer, some good quality interface and cables?
does it always come with XNTRY and DEVELEPPOR MODE ?
thank u guys


Hi, my advice is to go for JC recordings,
He sells a good quality stuff, you will have full time support on his forum and via mail. If You know how to use a Stardiag he will give You the best configuration with developer and xentry on the market! :proud:

[robertrobert]

JC recordings ???
what does it mean? is it memeber nickname or a company ? sorry but i m confused

[tkinyan]

You can goto buy anything about DAS, they are expert on it

[robertrobert]

thank u
what i see as they said is non chinise quality, with reasonable price, i ll contact them to see if they can offer some discount.
do u have one of their stuff msn .?

[cammy25]

He said that they dont sell it anymore.
But all the stuff comes from china. JC buys from china too!!

[Andrew R]

You cannot use and "clone" Star tester with the SBC break out box for re-progranmming because the SBC interface uses the 232 9 pin port. On a clone machine this is where the multiplexer goes into. !

Messing with the time-out warning is madness anyway.

Regards Andrew

[Qrius]

You cannot use and "clone" Star tester with the SBC break out box for re-progranmming because the SBC interface uses the 232 9 pin port. On a clone machine this is where the multiplexer goes into. !

Messing with the time-out warning is madness anyway.

Regards Andrew

Resetting break counter to zero is in my opinion , not messing with .....

each time SBC powers up it checks itself time after time
If there occures any problem in SBC unit with valve,brushes or whatever , it will go into error anyway. that you will NOT be able to erase in Dev mode

If you switch on contact of Brand new MB with SBC and press break 300.000 times it will go into this so called "error" you wanna say SBC is broken then ? without driving a milimeter ?

No it's indication to have SBC unit checked by MB workshop $$

Yes it's true that MB has to replace Faulty SBC units for free
since Factory will pay all there labor & material
But most Dealers try to have costumer pay for this procedure claiming costumers car has no a Dealer serviced History

[Dajan2009]

Yes it's true that MB has to replace Faulty SBC units for free
since Factory will pay all there labor & material
But most Dealers try to have costumer pay for this procedure claiming costumers car has no a Dealer serviced History

Interesting, at the dealer where I work nobody is going to pay for reflashing (reseting) SBC, just like nobody pays for upgrading software when the car is in the workshop for service, we give it for free to enhance relationship with customers. :knuddel:

[Ashraf6119]

Dajan2009 i dont find any thing wrong with your English you have explained it nicly and clearly.

And also i do agree with you mate.......


Ash

[deler]

Thank you, Qrius

[rabihhammoud]

Thanks very much...really u made big favorite to me..its rested and working fine...thanks again and again

[rabihhammoud]

If any one has Xentry keygen and xentry timeout reset please i need help.

My mail is:I have xentry developer keygen (the new one) so i can share it with good guy's...

[weryo]

Xentry development keygen/the new one/,..actually does not exist,mate!


Do not play with people,please!

[rabihhammoud]

Xentry development keygen/the new one/,..actually does not exist,mate!

Because in xentry diagnostics there is not development !

Do not play with people,please!

You are right. but what happend is that JC is writting on his DAS developer (Xentry Safe Developer) so i thought its for Xentry...i got back to his site, I found that he is saying DAS developer not Xentry!!!! I made a mistake...anyway i can send this NEW DAS DEVELOPER to any one who wants to share with me...Even without sharing i might send for free because i already payed for it and i lose nothing in giving it to any body ( i dont care about money).

[Qrius]

( i dont care about money).

In that case , you can PayPal me anytime 24/7 ;)

[rabihhammoud]

In that case , you can PayPal me anytime 24/7 ;)

I'm very poor...i mean ill gona send for free (the keygen) :)

[rabihhammoud]

Thank you, Qrius

[hmb47000]

oke here is how to
Make sure engine is running !!!

In Developer mode you need to go to Entwickelingsdaten - > ansteueringen -> Gesamstliste aller Ansteuerungen

to see how many times brake has been pressed there is a line that says: Bremsenzahler (DJ_GetBrLive)

then 1 line down there you see Bremsenzahler aktualisieren und Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen -> click it !
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

1 line down Bremsenzahler auf beliebigen Wert setzen (DJ_SetNBr) -> click it
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3


then scroll down untill you see the line's :

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (DJ_CalcLiveTime)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen und schreiben (DJ_BuildAndWriteF)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Log out of SBC !!
log out of verhicle !!

let engine run at least 10 minutes or drive at least 10 minutes

If no coils are damaged , SBC fault code is not AKTUEL nomore ;)

If you think this would help you :wink:
Please dot not forget to click THANKS

Thank you, Qrius
it work

[Mackhack]

oke here is how to
Make sure engine is running !!!

In Developer mode you need to go to Entwickelingsdaten - > ansteueringen -> Gesamstliste aller Ansteuerungen

to see how many times brake has been pressed there is a line that says: Bremsenzahler (DJ_GetBrLive)

then 1 line down there you see Bremsenzahler aktualisieren und Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen -> click it !
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

1 line down Bremsenzahler auf beliebigen Wert setzen (DJ_SetNBr) -> click it
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3


then scroll down untill you see the line's :

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (DJ_CalcLiveTime)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen und schreiben (DJ_BuildAndWriteF)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Log out of SBC !!
log out of verhicle !!

let engine run at least 10 minutes or drive at least 10 minutes

If no coils are damaged , SBC fault code is not AKTUEL nomore ;)

If you think this would help you :wink:
Please dot not forget to click THANKS

May I ask you Qurius where you got this nice little info from?

[Qrius]

May I ask you Qrius where you got this nice little info from?

It started like most of them.......
As a request !!
So,it was a combination , of a faulty SBC ,common sence , LOTS of time and GUTS to figure this out

[Mackhack]

It started like most of them.......
As a request !!
So,it was a combination , of a faulty SBC ,common sence , LOTS of time and GUTS to figure this out

The guts is the main thing :) Brakes are your life insurance in a car :)

[Qrius]

The guts is the main thing :) Brakes are your life insurance in a car :)

As i stated before : If SBC is faulty , you would NOT be able to erase the error anyhow
Each time SBC powers up it checks all components.

As for Guts , i was refering to screwing up a Module or not

[Mackhack]

Don't worry. I wasn't trying to offend you. Just mentioning. The reason I'm asking is b/c a friends E500 has a SBC problem and I came across this neat little write up!

[gigabyte]

oke here is how to
Make sure engine is running !!!

In Developer mode you need to go to Entwickelingsdaten - > ansteueringen -> Gesamstliste aller Ansteuerungen

to see how many times brake has been pressed there is a line that says: Bremsenzahler (DJ_GetBrLive)

then 1 line down there you see Bremsenzahler aktualisieren und Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen -> click it !
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

1 line down Bremsenzahler auf beliebigen Wert setzen (DJ_SetNBr) -> click it
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3


then scroll down untill you see the line's :

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen (DJ_CalcLiveTime)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Lebensdauerzahler F neu berechenen und schreiben (DJ_BuildAndWriteF)
Parameter uINBR = 0
then click F3

Log out of SBC !!
log out of verhicle !!

let engine run at least 10 minutes or drive at least 10 minutes

If no coils are damaged , SBC fault code is not AKTUEL nomore ;)

If you think this would help you :wink:
Please dot not forget to click THANKS


Hello mate,
I have CLS W219 Here with the same problem in SBC. I didn't find these menus(Entwickelingsdaten) in Dev mode. Where to search for it?
Thanks

[gigabyte]

Anyone to know how to do this in CLS W219 ?

[CarmasterAndrew]

Resetting break counter to zero is in my opinion , not messing with .....

each time SBC powers up it checks itself time after time
If there occures any problem in SBC unit with valve,brushes or whatever , it will go into error anyway. that you will NOT be able to erase in Dev mode

If you switch on contact of Brand new MB with SBC and press break 300.000 times it will go into this so called "error" you wanna say SBC is broken then ? without driving a milimeter ?

No it's indication to have SBC unit checked by MB workshop $$

Yes it's true that MB has to replace Faulty SBC units for free
since Factory will pay all there labor & material
But most Dealers try to have costumer pay for this procedure claiming costumers car has no a Dealer serviced History

If customer visit Official MB workshop, change brake pads, brake fluid, he will get a great chanses to exchange SBC free of charge. Otherway - no. I think it's correct

[lovelyirshad]

yes quris method is right but you must follow what BYNOW3 said don't forget to renew collector brushes on hydraulic pump of the module.

[phillip correction]

why would you want to reset and put peoples lives at risk when mercedes will change the sbc free of charge

[lovelyirshad]

now thery not changing free of cost any more

[vwpassat]

STOP to complain, there is no risk, with Qrius fixing you can drive 3-4 years with no problem. But if you get dtc C2498 you should chage SBC compulsory.
People lives are in danger even with new SBC anyway/ today we have lot of vehicles in the main route. Solution is encourage Public Commun Transportation, not individual.

QRIUS IS THE BEST

why would you want to reset and put peoples lives at risk when mercedes will change the sbc free of charge

[CarmasterAndrew]

Hi Qrius!
Look, tried to renew counter 3 times,Once it worked. Twice - didn't
That twice cases were at 211 2002 year/ Successful was at 211 2003 year. what do you think about it. in unsuccessful cases SBC units were without HOLD function. That 211's are from start of production.
Have you please any comments?
I work at official mercedes service 11 years

[grinich]

Do you have seen this article?:

Programming of SBC control unit-Use of extended special tool kit

in SDMedia 07.2010: Passenger cars-EClass-Model 211-Sensotronic Brake Control-Programming of SBC control unit-model211

I think they use this tool for something more than put brake counter to zero, but I don't know for what... probably if they are configuring a new SBC unit?

It is clear that with QRIUS procedure you can reset the counter without any special tool...:top:


BR

[mamdooh1980]

please can you explian to me how to do that witch menu in DAS should i log on to do this i make a shourt test then log in SBC then development data then where to go please help in this

[garagetech]

i also have this sbc warning light had everything checked nothing wrong with unit or circuit.

i will use das please can someone explain and i repeat please there are people who have asked this question and no reply where to start from in das exactly,

the procesure is outlined above but where do we start from. we dummies need to be guided like babies.
:hmmmm2::hmmmm2::hmmmm2:
thanks

[energjia]

i also have this sbc warning light had everything checked nothing wrong with unit or circuit.

i will use das please can someone explain and i repeat please there are people who have asked this question and no reply where to start from in das exactly,

the procesure is outlined above but where do we start from. we dummies need to be guided like babies.
:hmmmm2::hmmmm2::hmmmm2:
thanks

look here
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f152/tips-tricks-using-das-developer-edition-123621/

[Laca06]

[Quote = weryo; 420539] Xentry fejleszt?si keygen / az ?j /, .. val?j?ban nem l?tezik, haver!


Ne j?tssz az emberekkel, k?rlek! [/ QUOTE]
Nekem van Xentry 2.1 deweloper key ha sz?ks?ged van r? email cimre elk?ld?m.

[vwpassat]

Hi, m8s.
Anybody can let me know how to read/write eeprom of SBC W211, by DAS devp? Please.

[smayer]

Hi, m8s.
Anybody can let me know how to read/write eeprom of SBC W211, by DAS devp? Please.

This is you 11 post today about the same thing, don't play whit your life and others, buy a new SBC!!

[vwpassat]

11?
On the other hand, in the worse case, that you said is available for MT.
THERE IS NO RISK, as time is color white on the dashboard LCD.

I agree, when you have in red color warning Brake. We need SBC to exchange. In rest............We don't have to exaggerate.

This is you 11 post today about the same thing, don't play whit your life and others, buy a new SBC!!

[wiseman]

I've followed the procedure as it should and read the brake counter, was 466000 and after I completed the procedure it is 0.
But brake service visit work shop still appears and only fault code is service threshold reached c235a,

Have I missed something r done something incorrect, I did drive for 10 mins also

[wiseman]

Also after driving the counter doesn't count up either

[Mackhack]

I wouldn't touch this car anymore! Your brakes ate your and other's life insurance!

[Grover2000]

Hi can any fellow member who has a link with MB, advise if SBC units are still being replaced for free?

Grover

[ngetniko]

you have abrites 72?if you have i can help you.

[coolis]

I've followed the procedure as it should and read the brake counter, was 466000 and after I completed the procedure it is 0.
But brake service visit work shop still appears and only fault code is service threshold reached c235a,

Have I missed something r done something incorrect, I did drive for 10 mins also
I have same fault code on my w211 C235A, I make brake counter also 0 zero, but still that fault keep on.
Any solutions?

[wiseman]

I have same fault code on my w211 C235A, I make brake counter also 0 zero, but still that fault keep on.
Any solutions?

Still same with me too at the moment

[garagetech]

I have same fault code on my w211 C235A, I make brake counter also 0 zero, but still that fault keep on.
Any solutions?

Change abs unit

[carmelasse]

Hello

I have W211 with C2498 DTC in SBC system.
I read eeprom with AVDI and try to repair (with AVDI Dump Tool) but without succes. After eeprom programming DTC C2498 is still active.

[garagetech]

Do u have star mb? What fault r coming up now

[carmelasse]

Yes. i have star mb and I try 'famous' procedure with dev mode. No luck:( like AVDI too.
Fault is only one: C2498 and is still active.

[garagetech]

Yes. i have star mb and I try 'famous' procedure with dev mode. No luck:( like AVDI too.
Fault is only one: C2498 and is still active.

http://mhhauto.com/Thread-Mercedes-SBC-Unit-c2498-fault

Check this

[garagetech]

If it is the sbc unit

Connected to the STAR diagnostic system, the fault code C2498 will show the fault code description ?Service Threshold Reached? as a current & stored fault code. This code cannot be erased without replacing the system.
Common Part Numbers:
Mercedes Part Number ? 005 431 0012
Mercedes Part Number ? 005 431 0612
Mercedes Part Number ? 005 431 3412
Mercedes Part Number ? 005 431 7112
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 250 067
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 250 065
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 250 077
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 250 092
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 960 025
Bosch Part Number ? 0265 960 012

Rather than replacing the unit with an expensive new part or even replacing with a second hand part (just waiting for it to fail).. we can remanufacture your existing unit and reprogram the Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC) control module to increase the service life expectancy of the unit. This is becoming a very common problem and we?re able to carry out full repairs to these units and offer a very competitive fitting rate.
For more information & a quote, call

0871 2887 666.

[carmelasse]

I'm not going to play in the exchange of motor brushes or canister pressure.
Buy functional SBC and will end issue.
Thank you for your help :)