VW Vdo Nec dash and immo off question

[dtip]

I am wondering if it is possible to enter service mode on VAG vdo nec+24c32/64 dashboard with obd using "working key" when immo off is done?

To be precise it is golf 5 2008 1.6 gasoline but i guess question is same for all Vag vdo nec+24c32/64

I am asking because i borrowed fly fvdi to friend from other town to change mileage on his car , and he got me back saying he could not enter service mode, i can't see reason since i never had problem entering service mode with my tool, especealy on VW , so i was wondering about this immo off thing?

tnx

[shotman]

ok that it is not a nec vdo for the year must be a micronas 24c32 ... no service mode for that you need to read immo data with key or to get all flash and eeprom via micronas reading...

[Maartinj]

No need Service mode if you have working key, Micronas or NEC
Working Key allow device to login into cluster

[dtip]

No need Service mode if you have working key, Micronas or NEC
Working Key allow device to login into cluster

Yes of course i know that, but i don't think you understand my question - when immo off is done in ecu , will any key (without transponder at all for example) be counted as "working key" and allow login to cluster (service mode in nec case) ?

[Pyromaniak]

i think off immo in ecu dont change immo code in ecu, but somethink else and ecu dont wait for this code

[yugo45]

Yes of course i know that, but i don't think you understand my question - when immo off is done in ecu , will any key (without transponder at all for example) be counted as "working key" and allow login to cluster (service mode in nec case) ?

No , it is not possible, that is same as All key lost.

[dtip]

No , it is not possible, that is same as All key lost.

Tnx, i thought so

[dtip]

Ok just to update, he drove car to me and i realised problem, it is rare dashboard magneti marelli with fujitsu + 95320 , if someone can maybe help i opened thread here - http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/629297-VW-golf-5-magneti-marelli-fujitsu-95320

[Maartinj]

Yes of course i know that, but i don't think you understand my question - when immo off is done in ecu , will any key (without transponder at all for example) be counted as "working key" and allow login to cluster (service mode in nec case) ?

if no transponder , what you want to communicate with coil ?
blade ?
or shell
or your hand ?

[dtip]

if no transponder , what you want to communicate with coil ?
blade ?
or shell
or your hand ?

no need to be sarcastic and talk with that tone.... you just don't understand my question... also when immo off is done you don't need anything to communicate with coil , but that is not question, it was about loging to cluster service mode...