MB ESL TOOL W204 W212 SUGGESTIONS ?

[filip949]

hello i am interested in buying tool for esl programing. renewing fatal error and programing esl emulator on car without esl. i have been looking in the mb tool from SIMON TOUCH. it seems to be good by videos. can somone tell if has expirience with this tool or any other suggestions. thanks.

[wissamshaat]

i did this researches and found that vvdi mb tool is the best for now
i bought it today

[vageric]

i did this researches and found that vvdi mb tool is the best for now
i bought it today

not the best!

[drugowaz]

What better?

[CaioW]

For the W204 there is almost no BETTER tool.
The main problem on anny tool is unlocking the fatal error, sometimes take 5 minuts to try, sometimes take 8 hours and at the end dont unlock.

VVDI MB can unlock the fatar error and program the esl to EZS without a problem.

About the prices, i dont remember now but Simon touch i a little bit more expansive than VVDI..

We have VVDI on our shop and we are very very happy with Xhorse Company

@daxxer can talk better than me on that :D

[filip949]

mb tool from simon touch is not that expensive its on promotion now for 500 euro. and vvdi mb is a lot more money. i have other tool for mb keys. i dont want to double tools.

[drugowaz]

Simon cost 500eur? You must be
crazy

[Mario3]

in fact ESL doctor as standalone costs 500e, yes

[drugowaz]

Who needs not full tool. Just for esl

[CaioW]

If he have another device for password extration, he dont need another functions.

[filip949]

why simon touch dont make pass extraction on new models ? and btw i have zed full mb tool. now i am expecting new udpate for all lost keys until 2013.

[CaioW]

why simon touch dont make pass extraction on new models ? and btw i have zed full mb tool. now i am expecting new udpate for all lost keys until 2013.

Im pretty sure for 500$ you dont have passextraction.

Zedfull have this new update, but for does models above:


http://www.istanbulanahtar.com/en/zed-full-mercedes-benz/

ZFH-MB Version 01.04
Password receiving feature has been added for HC908 based W203,W220 and HC12 based W209,W211

[daxxer]

Im pretty sure for 500$ you dont have passextraction.

Zedfull have this new update, but for does models above:


http://www.istanbulanahtar.com/en/zed-full-mercedes-benz/

yes, right....that need to know at begin.....tool from simon can only repair maybe fatal error of ESL, but thats all :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
for next steps need next tools :listen: a for that sure not enough 500$ :stupid:

[filip949]

what you mean if i buy full from simon touch it will do other functions like virgin,personalization ? or are you talking about diferent tools

[CaioW]

what you mean if i buy full from simon touch it will do other functions like virgin,personalization ? or are you talking about diferent tools

We are talking about the same device.

Look in the simontouch webpage

https://www.keyprogtools.com/mercedes-nec-device-esl-w204-steering-lock/mercedes-nec-device-esl-w204-steering-lock

Look the application list, ask about the promotion you see.

If you have ALL does functions listed for 500$, just buy it.

[wissamshaat]

for me i have the condor machine so its the best choise
i am a real beginner and i cant afford paying lot of money for more expencive tools
from what i sow here in forum vvdi can do lot of cars that can be done with aftermarket tools

[vageric]

What better?

i think best mercedes tool is diagspeed!
all other tools for MB is copy of diagspeed.

[daxxer]

i think best mercedes tool is diagspeed!
all other tools for MB is copy of diagspeed.

...but the price of diagspeed :listen: :hmmmm:

[vageric]

yes you have different price from different devices.
but the best and only device that can do all is diagspeed.
if you want to do all and be the first in doing all then you need diagspeed.

[gkinz]

i have the diagspeed it is a amazing tool!!!

[auto techniek]

What can diagspeed do that vvdi MB tool can't?

[Mario3]

yes you have different price from different devices.
but the best and only device that can do all is diagspeed.
if you want to do all and be the first in doing all then you need diagspeed.
Diagspeed has the most overall options, but that it is no1 tool i cannot accept besides the 2 big russian developers. Only thing that diagspeed can do more is esl fatal error, all other functions they had before diagspeed.

And now, on the market vvdi kills it. With price/performance. SO now to buy diagspeed would be stupit since you can combine 2 or 3 tools and can to the same with less money. The benz key market has changed drasticly over the last 2 years.. till now who made money made it.. with vvdi prices on tools its killing the market cause its much more affordable to do keys and repairs so prices are dropping everyday

[vageric]

Diagspeed has the most overall options, but that it is no1 tool i cannot accept besides the 2 big russian developers. Only thing that diagspeed can do more is esl fatal error, all other functions they had before diagspeed.

And now, on the market vvdi kills it. With price/performance. SO now to buy diagspeed would be stupit since you can combine 2 or 3 tools and can to the same with less money. The benz key market has changed drasticly over the last 2 years.. till now who made money made it.. with vvdi prices on tools its killing the market cause its much more affordable to do keys and repairs so prices are dropping everyday



i agree with you mario3.
and yes the russia guys are bussy with the fbs4 dev.
but till now diagspeed is the only tools that can do 221 and 164 lost keys.
correct me if i'm wrong.

[daxxer]

i agree with you mario3.
and yes the russia guys are bussy with the fbs4 dev.
but till now diagspeed is the only tools that can do 221 and 164 lost keys.
correct me if i'm wrong.

no, still can't :listen:

[Gavra]

Yes it can easy......but not only one ......AVDI do them easy too...... there is only one model of EIS in early 164 with NEC which no tool can't do even today..........

[Mario3]

i agree with you mario3.
and yes the russia guys are bussy with the fbs4 dev.
but till now diagspeed is the only tools that can do 221 and 164 lost keys.
correct me if i'm wrong.
NEC mcu eis from 2006-2008 cannot be done at all. Still no solution on these no matter wich tool you use ;)

But the ones from 2008+ all keys lost is no problem

[vageric]

yes but what about W221 AKL?
the rest can do W164 2009-up AKL but not W221 AKL.
i thought that diagspeed can also do W221 AKL.

[lion0304]

yes but what about W221 AKL?
the rest can do W164 2009-up AKL but not W221 AKL.
i thought that diagspeed can also do W221 AKL.

I remember someone report that CGDI did AKL for W221 after 2009.
EZS look same as W164. There are 2 types old from 2006 - 2009 and new from 2009+
And the old as Mario3 said, no tool can do AKL until now.

[Mario3]

same for w164 and w221. 2008+ is posible, the older gen. its not.

[abdomm]

Hi to all team, i have same problem

Can you please help me to solve my problem for my esl doctor it can't initialze and enable blocked error. esl for mb w204 esl.

Best regards

[gkinz]

no, still can't :listen:

INCORRECT! it can do 2009+ 164 and 221. its a extras software but it can do AKL 07 and 08 with amazona chips need a doner board.

from diagspeed
"This software is needed in All Keys Lost situations for only Mercedes models after 2009 with the 164 or 221 chassis. There aren't too many of these out there, so typically locksmiths aren't purchasing this software until they come across one."

[schouten1977]

buy abrites and you whont regret :dancing: i read ezs with vvdi prog and calculate with abrites to make benz keys x horse sell now keys for 20 euro and the have updated board the are realy perfect:dancing:esl emulator from abrites and xhorse works also super

[Frankcar]

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https://www.auto-chips.com/mercedes-benz-w204-w207-w212-esl-elv-repair-kit_p1929.html

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[alclot]

Yes it can easy......but not only one ......AVDI do them easy too...... there is only one model of EIS in early 164 with NEC which no tool can't do even today..........

Hi mates,
I would like to start to repair this units. I have original full mercedes avdi. Can I do the repair with it?
Thanks in advance ;)

[pepi]

Yes but cant reset NEC ESL fatal error AA.