2011 Ducati Monster help

[dziuggy]

So I have picked up this 2011 monster of the auction, it was involved in a crash and gauges are damaged, LCD is all cracked and one of the caps is broken of the board.
anyhow i have bought a second hand dash, but I think ducatis have imo in the dash so i'm wondering if it is possible to clone that to new dash as I do have original key with it, and I also would be nice to move original dump to new cluster.

So i found what looks like eeprom:
24LC16B1, but my digiprog gives me an error when i try to read it (as 24C16), pin 1 is the dip right?
anyhow i'm including pic of the board, you can see that top cap on the right is broken of completely, I wonder if that can be mended, if it can maybe I could just use lcd and a case from the one I bought.


if anyone have experience with this one please let me know!!

[Dejfat]

Hi. Just swap the eeprom from old to new.

[dziuggy]

good idea, i'm just worried that something is wrong since i'm unable to read it

[Dejfat]

Some digiprogs have problems with 24c16. just swap. You are at risk if you read or write wrongly

[dziuggy]

thank you!

does anyone knows if the imo codes are stored in the same eeprom? so swappimg it should take care of that?

i would like to make back up of eeprom as well, so if digiprog won't work what is tool that does 24lc16 good?

[sk700]

what is tool that does 24lc16 good?
UPA, Xprog, orange5 will read this eeprom.

[DCT748]

Yes key codes (immo) are stored in 24C16, with mileage, ..
You can read with SOIC-8 and EPROM Programmer

[dziuggy]

so a little update, I received the used cluster today and digiprog reads the eeprom without a problem, so looks like the other chip is damaged.

question is can i pull the immo code (the one in the code card) from new cluster?

I appreciate everyones help very much!!

[DCT748]

yes you can pull the code of the code card in the used cluster you received
(but beware of the line's checksum when edit the file)

then this cluster can relearn the keys by following a procedure

[dziuggy]

yes you can pull the code of the code card in the used cluster you received
(but beware of the line's checksum when edit the file)

then this cluster can relearn the keys by following a procedure

thanks for the info I believe you HAVE to have 2 keys to reprogram, right?
i dont think I need to edit it since old eeprom is damaged i can not find out old info unfortunately. Do you know how to calculate the check sum for the code and or miles?

I will need to do mileage, but that's later right now i would like to start the bike first.

by the way do you know where can you switch KM/miles and or rpm stuff, as I have M796 and speedo I got is m1100, it looks the same inside and lights up, but i think rpm is different on 1100, I did find m796 dump but it is euro bike with kilometers instead of miles.

i tried to bypass immo - it supposed to have code input if incorrect key is inserted (by pressing mode switch), but it does not give me that option, so I wonder if there is another issue with the bike. I only have one key so I can not do reprogram. I also tried unplugging antenna wire from lock set but I still get no option to insert the code, then i removed lock completely and jumped the harness, so the bike turns on but still no option to put the code in.


also on the side note I have found virgin ducati dump and that one has 00 instead of all code and key info, if I write that would it work with any key? or would it be have to reprogrammed with 2 keys?

i much appreciate everyone's help, you guys are the best!!!

[dziuggy]

anyhow so no code was problem with left switch i replaced it and code thing worked.

appreciate all your help guys!!

[DCT748]

yes, you HAVE to have 2 keys to reprogram
post your dump 24c16 please to work on
for start the bike first, read the code card in the 24c16 dump (offset 0x100 to 0x104 normally in your M1100 dump)
If you press the switch (1) in position B “t” for 3 seconds, you will access the procedure for entering the code.
on 24c16 Monster 1100 normally the checksum for the code card, it's hash calculation checksum 8 bit on offset 0x108
for mileage i don't know cheksum, but you can put mileage with the checksum from another dump witch is getting closer, or find help here on the forum for exact mileage.
(for your virgin dump, it's same as reprogram, you HAVE to have 2 keys at swith on, to relearn the keys by following the procedure)

[dziuggy]

awesome thank for all the info, you are very helpful!!

do you know if regular key and laser key has same transponder? I have some old ducati key i think it is from 2011 1098 or something like that, I wonder if i could use one correct key from this bike and one ducati key that has transponder, but is not for this bike.

I was thinking of making key less ignition switch just for programming so i can put key next to antenna, flip switch on-off and register 2 keys, but only one of then would work for the lock, then I could clone the other key on correct aftermarket key.

[Dejfat]

awesome thank for all the info, you are very helpful!!

do you know if regular key and laser key has same transponder? I have some old ducati key i think it is from 2011 1098 or something like that, I wonder if i could use one correct key from this bike and one ducati key that has transponder, but is not for this bike.

I was thinking of making key less ignition switch just for programming so i can put key next to antenna, flip switch on-off and register 2 keys, but only one of then would work for the lock, then I could clone the other key on correct aftermarket key.

Why don't try to swap the chip and test with original key. You may save some time, money and stress. No harm in trying

[dziuggy]

my original key does not start the bike as original dash was crashed completely and key codes stored in it are gone and not retrievable.

I got used dash on it now and I was able to get the code from it, so with the code I have to program 2 keys to the dash. But programming procedure requires to have 2 keys and I only have one, that is why I'm thinking to use keyless switch so I can program 2 keys, 1 of witch is from this bike and one that is not, that way I do not need to buy another key for now.

Does anyone knows if older keys have same kind of transponder as newer ones?

i attached pictures, 1st pic is the original key from my bike, and second is key I happened to have laying around is transponders the same?

[DCT748]

yes it's same transponder T5
laser key for monster is T5, probably id12
the other key for 1098 is T5, probably id11
I'm not sure that the procedure works if it's not the same id
maybe you can reprogram the key for 1098 with a key code for T5 id 12 to be able to try the procedure

I saw your dump "ducati 29276km.bin" on the other subject
the first key code is F0000000500207E3, if you have zed bull you can write manually T5 id 12 : 0F0000000A40E0C7
the second key code is F0000000500207CC, if you have zed bull you can write manually T5 id 12 : 0F0000000A40E033

but to do the procedure I think it needs another key code that does not exist in 24c16
you can use this one for example : write manually T5 id 12 : 0F0000000010574B

[dziuggy]

thanks so much! I actually just ordered zed bull clone, so I can try that!will report back

[dziuggy]

So I tried writing 0F0000000A40E0C7 into ebay T5 blank, zed bull writes and veries ok, after that it shows = data: 80C0 671E 0000 0014 type: 12 T5 WR, however bike does not start with this key next to the lock, am I doing something wrong?

[DCT748]

I tested at home and when I enter the code 0F 00 00 00 0A 40 E0 C7 (temic 12)
I have a reading of the zedbull 80 02 10 F8 F1 03 00 00 (who is not the same as you)
--> so I think you enter the code badly manually ?
it's ok for type: temic 12 T5 WR

if you want to do it automatically, you can use the EFfi software (who uses the file dump) with the zedbull clone
this software must be available on the forum or internet for free I think

[dziuggy]

thanks i rewrote the key and now it shows same as yours, but bike still won't start. Im wondering if there would be a problem with antenna or something. I was thinking I could program the 2 keys I got, to the bike,but if antenna is not reading then, I could get stuck?

[DCT748]

I am 100% sure that the key code works, so actually there must be a problem with the antenna
you moved away the other keys of the antenna to have that one ?
the dashboard turns on well and the immobilizer light stays on, is that it ?

at least the bike starts when you use the code card ?
(to bypass the immo without using the keys and antenna)
in your dump "ducati 29276km" the code : 77521

[dziuggy]

I am 100% sure that the key code works, so actually there must be a problem with the antenna
you moved away the other keys of the antenna to have that one ?
the dashboard turns on well and the immobilizer light stays on, is that it ?

at least the bike starts when you use the code card ?
(to bypass the immo without using the keys and antenna)
in your dump "ducati 29276km" the code : 77521


alright,

here is what i tried:
put the T5 key next to lock, and try to start with key that i have , that is wrong key for the bike.
then i tried having just new key near antenna and unplug the lock, then jump connector to turn the bike on

in both cases Immo error is present

the bike does start with the code 77521

any ideas how to trouble shoot antenna issues?

[DCT748]

may be that in the crash the antenna is broken or a problem with the connection of the electric wire
can be try another antenna and check the wiring harness ?

[dziuggy]

ill try to trace it, see what I came up with

[dziuggy]

So an update!

antenna was working, but ebay t5 transponder is pretty weak and only worked when put close to antenna ring, furthermore if you have another key close by (even the one that is not registered to immo) it will interfere with the signal and wont work.

anyhow ill be tapping t5 out of the way and that should do!

DCT748, thank you so much for all your help!!!!

[DCT748]

good news
Thank you for the feedback
You're welcome
:peaceful:

[eisenberg]

Hello, I’m exactly in the same situation was
dziuggy over two years ago, in the first post.
So I also have picked up 2010 monster 696 of the auction, it was involved in a crash and gauge missing.
Than yesterday received a second hand dashboard That I would like to made virgin like rand new but need your help because is the firs time
I have only keys and code card for the missing dashboard but nothing for the used one bought
My only experience was bmw Dash and ews some year ago
I would like to know step by step the correct procedure to make the work and if possIble make it with codiprog
For what I know after make dash virgin will relearn the old keys right?
Hope to have help

[DCT748]

1/ you have to read 24c16 on dash
2/ look for the PIN CODE on hex file
3/ start the procedure for reprogramming the 2 keys on the motorcycle via the dash menu (with PIN code)
for information, the PIN code will always be the same and not the one that went with the keys of the missing dash.
If you want to modify the PIN code it is possible but already do like this in first time

[eisenberg]

thank you so much, seems not very hard work as eprom can be read and write on board without desolder .
Just some question .
Can I do the job with codiprog elprosys?
Were is the pin Code on hex file?
In this way no need new keys right? I just downloaded your pdf immobilizer override
What about mileage? how can be changed
Can I upload here bin file after reding done than have your help to change that things?

[DCT748]

i don't know codiprog elprosys, but many many reader can read 24c16 so i think yes
yes, no need new key, use immobilizer override procedure
(but in this PDF it is to start with the code, to relearn the keys the beginning is similar, but then you just have to insert the 2 keys one after the other to learn them in the dash)
for PIN and Mileage this requires specific knowledge.
if you work you can learn them successfully, but no one will tell you directly how to do it
when you have read the file send it to me in PM I will help you ;)

[eisenberg]

That's fantastic really thanks, I just have to end repair ans rebuild the monster, as completely disassembled now, than will do the job.

[tboooe]

Hello, I’m exactly in the same situation was
dziuggy over two years ago, in the first post.
So I also have picked up 2010 monster 696 of the auction, it was involved in a crash and gauge missing.
Than yesterday received a second hand dashboard That I would like to made virgin like rand new but need your help because is the firs time
I have only keys and code card for the missing dashboard but nothing for the used one bought
My only experience was bmw Dash and ews some year ago
I would like to know step by step the correct procedure to make the work and if possIble make it with codiprog
For what I know after make dash virgin will relearn the old keys right?
Hope to have help

Hello, total noobie so please excuse me if the answer to this question is totally obvious. I have 2012 Ducati 848 EVO with a non functioning dash. I have 2 keys but do not have code card. Can I purchase another dash and simply desolder and transfer the EEPROM from my existing dash to this new one? I assume the immobilizer code and mileage is stored in the EEPROM. If this is correct, can somehow show me the schematic where the EEPROM is located on the PCB?

Thank you!

[ducatista]

Hi team! Is someone able to interpret this bin file for me? Looking for the immobilizer code and key codes to chuck into a Zedbull. Bonus points if you can explain to me how you foound it/converted it to Zedbull input code.

[ducatista]

Actually, do I need to pre-program the keys with Zedbull or can I just use the key reprograming procedure using the immo code and dash? I have two blank keys with T5 ID12 transponder cut from the barrel.

[f2f2]

Hi team! Is someone able to interpret this bin file for me? Looking for the immobilizer code and key codes to chuck into a Zedbull. Bonus points if you can explain to me how you foound it/converted it to Zedbull input code.
This bike key code with ZED BULL ? Show the code

[DCT748]

it's look like same as M696 etc.. manually write T5 ID12
key 1 :0F 00 00 00 E0 00 11 88
key 2 :0F 00 00 00 E0 00 11 E1
and start bike

[ducatista]

Hi! No this is the .bin file dumped from the eeprom using CH341A. Not sure which lines are immo code and which lines are keys. DCT748 below is correct, 659 should be the same as 696. Also a huge thanks to DCT748 below! I'll chuck those in a Zedbull when I can access one and report back. Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the key mating procedure using the dash and controls would work with two blank transponder keys and the immo code pulled from the .bin file?

[DCT748]

no it's work only if the 2 key are not blank (dash learn key code)

[ducatista]

no it's work only if the 2 key are not blank (dash learn key code)
Thank you so much!

[eisenberg]

hi all, I read my monster 696 ebay dashboard, that need know pin code to start bike.

[jonnny]

hi all, I read my monster 696 ebay dashboard, that need know pin code to start bike.

Here is your PIN CODE

[eisenberg]

Thank you, but rar password asking

[jonnny]

Thank you, but rar password asking

of course it is with password ,and you should to ask for pass on PM , if you want pass of course .:palm2:
i don't see your request on PM ... neither buttons pressed

[jonnny]

@eisenberg

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon1.png Re: monster 696 rar password pin code


thank you so much, after 2 years of repair work, the bike start engine, i'm really happy, thank again.
now, Can I put the original pin code ?

Sombody STILL don't know where are THANKS and REPUTATION buttons :palm2:

[eisenberg]

thanks to all, JHONNY, and DCT748 that he help to me al lot, to solve my dashboard problem and explain the job,:rock:
I M sorry if some time do not understand:hmmmm:, but is not properly my world... but slowly I m learning:cluspish:

[eisenberg]

the bike start right, as I told above, but the engine light stay always on, could be a dash problem?

[DCT748]

you have to check the error code in the dash menu to know what it is

[eisenberg]

hi guys..please pin code urgently I have big problem with this monster 696

pin code for this Monster and hope re programm keys

[f2f2]

hi guys..please pin code urgently I have big problem with this monster 696

pin code for this Monster and hope re programm keys

you try this
74154
74396

[eisenberg]

thank you soooo much f2f2, you avoid me lots of problem and bike start again. and I'm so happy :devil:.....really thank. and no yellow engine cel light on, this time.

[f2f2]

thank you soooo much f2f2, you avoid me lots of problem and bike start again. and I'm so happy :devil:.....really thank. and no yellow engine cel light on, this time.

And your PIN code ..... ?

[eisenberg]

And your PIN code ..... ?

the first one ..and also the only tried...

[joker01]

I'll continue here..... I'm just in the study phase....
this is a file that i downloaded on the e2p dash ducati forum.....
I found the id of key number 1 I would like to eliminate this key and write the id of one of my transponder generated temic id 11.....
my id is: 7D5F0000802E664C
in which position should I write to start the bike without problems....
Thank you....

[f2f2]

I'll continue here..... I'm just in the study phase....
this is a file that i downloaded on the e2p dash ducati forum.....
I found the id of key number 1 I would like to eliminate this key and write the id of one of my transponder generated temic id 11.....
my id is: 7D5F0000802E664C
in which position should I write to start the bike without problems....
Thank you....

Man Stop stop stop
10734.ols dump no ID11 system

F0 more 00 = ID12

Blue color key1 position 3x need 100% same code
Example eeprom code and Chip create code
Eeprom data: F0 00 00 00 00 06 F7 B5

after 8 byte addition in 16bit edit 2byte [LoByte ; HiByte]

CHIP data: C0 DE 5B 1F 00 00 00 00

[joker01]

thank you man I take note of the information you gave me!!!!!!

[eisenberg]

hello, can anyone help me with pin code for monster 696 24LC16B?

[Levc]

Hello, I have a tachometer change on a 2012 monster evo 1100. I am transferring the EEPROM from the previous tachometer to the new one and using the same old key, the bike recognizes it and gives power to the engine starter but it is not sending a signal to the coil or injectors, that is. Would it have something to do with it? Am I missing any steps? Or is everything fine and it's just a mechanical failure? The motorcycle was stored for 2 years and has not been turned on since then. I would also like to know if you can give me the security code, here I leave the bin file