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makri
19th February, 2018, 07:53 PM
Hi guys

I need some help here.
Flashed a EDC17C19 Insignia ECU and now the car wont start.
When I open the door or turn of the ignition there is a strange sound coming from the engine bay, sounds like a actuator is moving or something.
Tool used is a 7.020 ktag clone, it says the write was successful.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Thanks

norman1967
19th February, 2018, 08:07 PM
What fault codes do you have?

makri
19th February, 2018, 08:16 PM
What fault codes do you have?

ECU communication error
Canbus error
And a bunch more, I will go have look now!

makri
19th February, 2018, 08:28 PM
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wbart
19th February, 2018, 08:54 PM
Why you flashed ecu? Checksum good?

Wysłane z mojego SM-G390F przy użyciu Tapatalka

norman1967
19th February, 2018, 09:09 PM
I have only ever used my 7020 twice. The second time was to write a Mercedes b class it did not ask me to do the chks. The car started once cut out and never started again I have dtc for chks. If i was you I'd wrote back origonal with another tool. Or if you have not another tool try woth your 7020 again wrote origonal

makri
19th February, 2018, 10:32 PM
I have only ever used my 7020 twice. The second time was to write a Mercedes b class it did not ask me to do the chks. The car started once cut out and never started again I have dtc for chks. If i was you I'd wrote back origonal with another tool. Or if you have not another tool try woth your 7020 again wrote origonal

Yeah I tried to write back the original file but the car still behaves the same. And now I cant read or write using Kess anymore

makri
19th February, 2018, 10:34 PM
I think I have sourced the problem to my tool or/and software.
When I write a file and read it again its been messed up in the are between 013FE4 and 017FE4

508128

makri
19th February, 2018, 10:47 PM
Why you flashed ecu? Checksum good?

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Its a friends car, he wanted me to flash a chip tuning file.

makri
19th February, 2018, 11:01 PM
I have attached the original file, and the original file after I wrote it with ktag and read it again.

autoSP
19th February, 2018, 11:53 PM
dunno why read file has some extra data at the begining...did u check eeprom read too to see if it got corrpted? cause ori looks fine!

pulsar2000
20th February, 2018, 12:06 AM
You sure no solder left on PCB or bad solder job on Boot pin ??

makri
20th February, 2018, 01:11 AM
dunno why read file has some extra data at the begining...did u check eeprom read too to see if it got corrpted? cause ori looks fine!

I have a eproom read on my computer, will check it tomorrow.
Everytime I write the ori file and read it again it will come out with a 100% match to that file with extra data in the beginning.


You sure no solder left on PCB or bad solder job on Boot pin ??

No soldering involved, used a needle for the boot pin

makri
20th February, 2018, 08:55 AM
I have a kess that i tried in tricore. But it wont ID, read or write the ECU.
But it says it can do TOTAL read or write.

So maybe if somebody have a TOTAL read from this ecu I can to write it?

HW:
SW: 1037529592
VIN nr.:
SW ver.:
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.:
SW upg.: P564_OB8
Installation:

norman1967
20th February, 2018, 09:25 AM
I have a kess that i tried in tricore. But it wont ID, read or write the ECU.
But it says it can do TOTAL read or write.

So maybe if somebody have a TOTAL read from this ecu I can to write it?

HW:
SW: 1037529592
VIN nr.:
SW ver.:
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.:
SW upg.: P564_OB8
Installation:

If it won't Id another origoanl file will not help mate

I've never used kess on this ecu.

Does it id with your ktag?

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:31 AM
If it won't Id another origoanl file will not help mate

I've never used kess on this ecu.

Does it id with your ktag?

Are you sure about that? When I try to read/write/id it with kess it says cant ID it but suggest I go into TOOLS and do a TOTAL read or write.
I managed to read a full dump that way, it ended up in a single file that is 2177KB

I get no error messages when using Ktag

norman1967
20th February, 2018, 09:43 AM
Are you sure about that? When I try to read/write/id it with kess it says cant ID it but suggest I go into TOOLS and do a TOTAL read or write.
I managed to read a full dump that way, it ended up in a single file that is 2177KB

I get no error messages when using Ktag

No I am not sure as like I said I have never used kess on that ecu.

I asked if ktag will id

You wrote you get no error message?

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:47 AM
No I am not sure as like I said I have never used kess on that ecu.

I asked if ktag will id

You wrote you get no error message?

Yes when writing with Ktag there is no error message. Everything seems normal until I read the file or try to start the car
And yes it identifies the ECU

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:48 AM
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norman1967
20th February, 2018, 09:53 AM
Ok that's good news. When I get home I will get you my origoanl files and you can try them. Does ktag ask you if you want to do the chks?

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:56 AM
Ok that's good news. When I get home I will get you my origoanl files and you can try them. Does ktag ask you if you want to do the chks?

Thank you very much sir.

Yes, when I flash the ori file or the tuned file it ask me to compare it with the ori file for checksum

norman1967
20th February, 2018, 12:27 PM
Thank you very much sir.

Yes, when I flash the ori file or the tuned file it ask me to compare it with the ori file for checksum

here are my originals mate good luck

if i have helped click the thanks and star buttons

post back your results

makri
20th February, 2018, 12:39 PM
here are my originals mate good luck

if i have helped click the thanks and star buttons

post back your results

Thank you very much!
I will have a try after I finish work.
Any chance you can get the total read 2177kb file from kess?

norman1967
20th February, 2018, 12:42 PM
Thank you very much!
I will have a try after I finish work.
Any chance you can get the total read 2177kb file from kess?

As I already said I've never used kess on these ecus so you have here over 4 full bench reads. And to say thanks on this forum you click the buttons. Not post it.

makri
20th February, 2018, 12:47 PM
As I already said I've never used kess on these ecus so you have here over 4 full bench reads. And to say thanks on this fit on you click the buttons. Not post it.

Yup I will go and try the files after i finish work, thx

michaga
20th February, 2018, 12:56 PM
Thank you very much!
I will have a try after I finish work.
Any chance you can get the total read 2177kb file from kess?

IMHO the total backup is flash (mpc) and eeprom in one file so you can restore the ECU to original and you can write it back only with kess. There is no way (at least I have not found one) to separate it.

makri
20th February, 2018, 01:00 PM
IMHO the total backup is flash (mpc) and eeprom in one file so you can restore the ECU to original and you can write it back only with kess. There is no way (at least I have not found one) to separate it.

Yeah I just wanted to try and flash a total backup (if I can find one) with kess, because every time I flash mpc with ktag the file gets corrupted.

sdtsedat
20th February, 2018, 05:56 PM
@Makri: You need disable restore and flash mpc and eeprom weird in K-TAG

mancioks
20th February, 2018, 07:25 PM
I have kess read 2177kb from cpu i bought for learning :) If need write pm i'll send it to U.
HW:
SW: 1037529583
VIN nr.:
SW ver.:
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.:
SW upg.: P564_OB8
Installation: P153 - Bosch EDC17C19 Opel

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:03 PM
@Makri: You need disable restore and flash mpc and eeprom weird in K-TAG

Yes I did, it must be a problem with my Ktag. I have solved the issue now


here are my originals mate good luck

if i have helped click the thanks and star buttons

post back your results

Thanks a lot. I flashed the 160hp ori with ktag, it also got corrupted like my ori file but not that much. This file already have data in that corrupted area and it looks like it helped.
The car started with the flash and also Kess IDed the ECU.
I then flashed my tune file using Kess tricore and it wrote it with no issues, then read it again and its a 100% match so no problems with Kess tricore on this ECU using 2.23sw and 5.017FW
So looks like the problem is with my Ktag or 7.020 ktag in general for this ECU.


I have kess read 2177kb from cpu i bought for learning :) If need write pm i'll send it to U.
HW:
SW: 1037529583
VIN nr.:
SW ver.:
Spare:
Engine:
HW Ver.:
SW upg.: P564_OB8
Installation: P153 - Bosch EDC17C19 Opel

Thanks mate appreciate it, but I just solved my problem

norman1967
20th February, 2018, 09:17 PM
[QUOTE=makri;3220652]Yes I did, it must be a problem with my Ktag. I have solved the issue now



Great and well done for posting back your findings this will help others in the future

makri
20th February, 2018, 09:25 PM
[QUOTE=makri;3220652]Yes I did, it must be a problem with my Ktag. I have solved the issue now



Great and well done for posting back your findings this will help others in the future


I attached the file I got from you for comparison before and after I flashed it.

I dont know if it is my Ktag box that has issues a or general issue with 7.020 so I just recorded another tool.

kingarthas
21st April, 2018, 02:35 PM
Check PCB.. most probably damage during opening...

Try to put ignition on without ECU you will got LOW FUEL. Try with ECU will get the same LOW FUEL.... Need replacement unit, EEPROM shift and IMMO off.



Didnt you say, that yo using KTAG. Why your stock is partial read???? Looks like overwritten via OBD.

Find full stock and write with another KTAG, KESS tricore, Galletto or MPPS v18.

kingarthas
9th June, 2018, 01:49 PM
Hi guys

I need some help here.
Flashed a EDC17C19 Insignia ECU and now the car wont start.
When I open the door or turn of the ignition there is a strange sound coming from the engine bay, sounds like a actuator is moving or something.
Tool used is a 7.020 ktag clone, it says the write was successful.

Any ideas what might be causing this?

Thanks

You should have indication low fuel on dashboard, ECU is damaged. Inspect the board. Can bet you did not test after pray open.