help Astra 1.7dti big problem driveing me mental

[cureacar]

OK story is the guy is driving along suddenly it stalls now sometimes it starts some times it don't so he brings to me and i do diagnostics here is what i found

V30 Diagnosis Report Autoboss
Time:2009-11-10 15:51:18
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Fault code(s) report

Fault code Description
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P0251-8 Spill Value Malfunction (Injection Pump)
P0380-A Glow Device General Error


ok then i have a little read then find out its down to the ecu the man who owns the car try loads of different ecus spends a fair few bob on it then he buys 1 from ebay (car has been lead up for a while due to funding )

he plugs in and it starts fine trouble now he get a horrible harsh noise from engine at about 2500 revs sounds like its over advancing or somthink so now its back in my workshop i do another diagnostics hear is report

V30 Diagnosis Report Autoboss
Time:2009-11-10 15:51:18
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Fault code(s) report

Fault code Description
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P0110-1 Intake Air Temperature Voltage High
P0251-8 Spill Value Malfunction (Injection Pump)
P0380-A Glow Device General Error
P0335-4 No Engine RPM Signal
P0100-2 Mass Air Flow Sensor Voltage Low
P1122-2 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 Voltage Low
P1635-2 5V Reference #2 Circuit
P0105-2 Boost Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Input

i clear them and take for a drive plugin and get this report

V30 Diagnosis Report Autoboss

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Fault code(s) report

Fault code Description
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P0380-A Glow Device General Error
P0335-4 No Engine RPM Signal

still getting horrible noise my trouble is the guy is also a mechanic and he prob been poking his fingers in everything

INFO ABOUT CAR :
Vauxhall Astra
1.7 dti
Isuzu engine
x reg

please help me i need to get this bloody thing out


thanks for your help in advance

[bigboots]

hi ther the 1st is needs new glow plugs. not working properly
And second is crankshaft sensor.
hope this helps

[Meat-Head]

hi ther the 1st is needs new glow plugs. not working properly
And second is crankshaft sensor.
hope this helps

i agree with above poster the glow worms are in banks of two, if you look at the glowworm relay you can work out the inputs and outputs, use somebody elses ampmeter and check the currant draw is equal on both banks

yes bang a crack sensor init.

I'm getting confused lately, but top intercooler hose, check if it has split, and loosing boost, new pipe something daft like ?17+ vat

don't know, don't care.

[Printer1]

Hi

Your cutting out / P0251-8 Spill Value Malfunction (Injection Pump)
problem will be down to the High Voltage ECU which is bolted to the Injector pump down the back of the engine, you may be able to repair it if you are good with a soldering iron

Remove the ECU from the pump, prize off the back & look for dry / broken solder joints ( look for dirt running down from joints ) from memory you normally get about 6 or 7, resolder these reseal back & refit.

If it still cuts out you can get them from ebay ?200 ish new from vauxhall ?680 good luck

P0380-A Glow Device General Error could be just a random fault but it will not cause cutting out

P0335-4 No Engine RPM Signal
on vauxhall this fault code comes up all the time if you scan with the engine not running, if you start the engine this fault will no longer exist.

[karim5492]

also check the wire on the ecu on top of engine i had one with green inside the ecu wire

[obdmaster]

i SAY spill valve ecu at back of engine, Remove back cover siliconed on carefully cut seal remove rear cover and re-solder all dodgy connections (dont worry there quite large connections). Reseal refit jobs a good one. hope this works it does for me..:dancing2:

[smirnoff_rules]

i SAY spill valve ecu at back of engine, Remove back cover siliconed on carefully cut seal remove rear cover and re-solder all dodgy connections (dont worry there quite large connections). Reseal refit jobs a good one. hope this works it does for me..:dancing2:

l agree m8 had a few of these with the same fault http://www.cqout.com/getimg.asp?id=890106

its normally the joint right in the middle of the board


theres another thread on this on this forum somewhere with pictures of the board

[Meat-Head]

l
its normally the joint right in the middle of the boarD



It is the one that is laughing at you.

[cureacar]

thank you very much will have a look at this soon ill let you know how i get on thanks again

[Meat-Head]

at least your thread go more results than my dead metro thread!:cobblers:

[bikemania]

it is the unit posted above get it sorted as quick as possible as when it does fail ur car wont start at all as wot happened to me got stranded middle of nowhere

[Ashraf6119]

Hi

The above picture is the same ECU as yours see those RED MARKS are thats where are the dry joints you need to resolder them nicely and hope fully it will sort your porblems..

Hope This Helps

Ash

[badrick]

i had same problem with my astra 1.7dti y reg (2001) about 3 years ago and now i think i have the same problem again was cutting out now non start, last time it cost me ?423 to have a recon edu fitted, then google and found out that it was probably just dry joints, being a tv engineer i was a bit piss to have paid all that money when i could have fixed it my self, so think this will be the first thing im checking in the morning!

[zebbon]

Useful article
Y17DT / Y17DTL Pumpen - Steuerger?t Reparatur (NEU) (http://www.mrserv.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=33)

[cureacar]

OK thank you to every one it turned out the owner was lieing about buying a new ecu he was hoping i would find something stupid to be wrong so i have striped the box and i see the problems i have now repaired and runs like a dream thanks again

[badrick]

i had same problem with my astra 1.7dti y reg (2001) about 3 years ago and now i think i have the same problem again was cutting out now non start, last time it cost me ?423 to have a recon edu fitted, then google and found out that it was probably just dry joints, being a tv engineer i was a bit piss to have paid all that money when i could have fixed it my self, so think this will be the first thing im checking in the morning!


took out edu this morning opened it up and it had a dry joint on one of the pins reflow all suspect pins seal it back up dropped it back in and running sweet as a nut first time! and im not down ?420:beer:
this was a unit that had already been recon so only lasted 3 years!.

[Ashraf6119]

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[asliyucegsm]

thank you zebbon
very good

[leighm]

had the same problem with an tdi 1.7 astra sportive van cut out some times it would start another time had to wait an hour had it on the diognostic kit no faults found phone county diesel in leicester told me streight away over the phone ecu back of the engine i let them do it about ?200 job done then i went and wrote the bloody thing off anyway county diesel on

[cureacar]

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[Meat-Head]

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[Meat-Head]

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[projectm]

my van just cut out just turns over and doesnt fire up i hope its the edu

[jimdollar]

Sometimes you can test if its a faulty unit by getting someone to crank engine while you give it a smallish tap with something, often it will start up, proving a faulty unit, BBA-Reman do rebuilds on them and they are meant to be better than new, must be some mod they do to them.:ciao: