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drugowaz
8th May, 2018, 10:10 AM
Can i use 2 button card insted 3 butyon. The one with light symbol

topclef
8th May, 2018, 10:18 AM
no , you cannot use it , because the Card reader is not the same ( 3 button hand free ) .

drugowaz
8th May, 2018, 10:29 AM
Where to get new cards?

topclef
8th May, 2018, 10:43 AM
Be advised , only the Renault clip can programme Laguna (2001-2005 ) with hand free , because this card has PCF7936 for start + PCF7952 for hand free .


if all keys lost , the best way is the change the card reader and make card with 2 buttons

drugowaz
8th May, 2018, 10:47 AM
So just swap reader and add new card as usual?
No need program reader ?
Or need change data in uch that car have no keyless?

topclef
8th May, 2018, 10:50 AM
no coding to do , change reader and program card 2button, all will be fine , the only thing is the car owner will lost hand free option

drugowaz
8th May, 2018, 10:53 AM
Ho problem . I think owners will agree if price will be good :)

Nikola1309
8th May, 2018, 01:45 PM
If the card is with autolock button you can program card with two.

kostas
8th May, 2018, 02:27 PM
If the card is with autolock button you can program card with two.

yes you can

TERMINATOR1000
8th May, 2018, 11:36 PM
Be advised , only the Renault clip can programme Laguna (2001-2005 ) with hand free , because this card has PCF7936 for start + PCF7952 for hand free .


if all keys lost , the best way is the change the card reader and make card with 2 buttons

Hi
blue connector ( not H F ) is the same of brown ?
Not sure !

topclef
9th May, 2018, 10:30 AM
Hi
blue connector ( not H F ) is the same of brown ?
Not sure !

not the same , but you can do a little modification, when we have the same situation ( all keys lost , card too expensive ) , the car's owner wants to start his car as soon as possible .

drugowaz
9th May, 2018, 10:38 AM
What mods need to be done?
Repin wires or cut connector?

RFRemotes
21st September, 2018, 01:33 PM
Be advised , only the Renault clip can programme Laguna (2001-2005 ) with hand free , because this card has PCF7936 for start + PCF7952 for hand free .


if all keys lost , the best way is the change the card reader and make card with 2 buttons

Thanks for this info. What if we try to use card as original one and not changing reader? Should it work if we use an old card of same type and new properly precoded PCF7936 in it? What do you think guys?

godfathertre
21st September, 2018, 08:06 PM
so changing the card reader works on the laguna came across this a while ago and read on this forum that changing card reader works so what else is the modification are the connectors plug and play

or need altered .

HeXeN
11th November, 2018, 11:18 PM
What technically happen when I try to code 2button non-HF card (with hole) on a 3button reader (HF type, with sun button, without hole)?

godfathertre
13th November, 2018, 01:14 AM
the renault ecu tool tell you that you need a handsfree card and will not program a 2 button card on it no damage to car so safe to use one of the best tools for renault .

arosta
13th November, 2018, 09:25 AM
If there is akl. Option is to program normal carbon pcf7936as and put into cardshell, then you can start car, but no remote control. And remember most important is: what colour of led is on card reader. If there is red - then only 3buttons hf with pcf7936 can be coded. But many times after 2005 there are card readers with white leds and then you can add 2 buttons even when there is option for hf cards (sometimes you can code both types of cards). Checked

p1et
23rd March, 2019, 12:04 AM
If there is akl. Option is to program normal carbon pcf7936as and put into cardshell, then you can start car, but no remote control. And remember most important is: what colour of led is on card reader. If there is red - then only 3buttons hf with pcf7936 can be coded. But many times after 2005 there are card readers with white leds and then you can add 2 buttons even when there is option for hf cards (sometimes you can code both types of cards). Checked

So if customer have working 3 button HF card and card reader is with white leds, then I can add new key with 2 button and remote will work? Or I don't understand something?