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Autoelectroni
1st June, 2018, 09:00 AM
Hi!

I am newbie in chiptuning. I can only a bit to search for maps in Winols (crackek) (very long, very bad).
I want to buy oryginal Swiftec, ECM Titanium or oryginal Winols and buy damos.

I do not know what to choose... As i know:

Swiftec:

Pros:
Have automatic DPF OFF, EGR OFF etc
make good axis (ads factors etc.)
Easy to use

Cons:
Does not find all maps.
The newer auto is the less maps. I have used swiftec in by my friends and in autos abowe 2012 many maps he has to look manually.




ECM Titanium:

Pros:
Find almost all maps for all cars
Not as easy as Swiftec but still easy to use

Cons:
does not edit Axis and does not add factor (have to add it manually)
Does not do EGR OFF
Does not do DPF OFF



Winols oryg + damos files:

Pros:
You can buy almost every ECU damos
If You have damos then You know that You have all maps (not as in Swiftec)
Its more professional

Cons:
You have to find maps manually without damos
You have to buy every damos which in long term will cost more then Swiftec or ECM.
Does not do DPF EGR automaticlyy



And my question are...

1. Does ECM Titatnium really find all maps that are needed to Stage 1 Chiptuning?

What with damos i Winols?
2. I have to buy damos for Every ECU? I mean for example EDC16U31 is used in more then one motor and more then one car.
Do i have to buy damos for every car or i will buy once damos for EDC16U31 Ecu and will have for every engine that run EDC16U31 ECU?

3. What are the prices of damos for Winols? (from $-to$)

4. If I buy ECM Titanium on credits how much does every ECU cost me in Euro or dolars?

5. I am the most into buying ECM Titanium oryg Full and do chiptuning on it, and then after customer is gone.
Look on swiftec on maps how do they look like and learn to find manually in future.

6.What will You recommend for learnig the chiptuning?


In a future i want to have for sure not only ECM but also Winols oryginal but, now have cracked and want to earn sth then buy more.


Does ECM Titanium Ful+ Winols crack is good for begin/ newbie?

ohkarol
1st June, 2018, 11:10 AM
you need all of them to do the job friend

Autoelectroni
1st June, 2018, 12:14 PM
Yes i know that i Will need all of them but You know how much does chiptuning interfaces, dynometer and chiptunig software costs.
I want to have all of them but for biginnig I cannot afford to buy oryg Kess and Ktag, oryg ECM, Oryg Siwftec, oryg Winlos. I have to begin with sth.

And want to know if for beginning ECM Titanum Full + Winlos is good. Or maybe Swiftec + winlos is better. Or only winlos

juse
2nd June, 2018, 07:27 AM
There is no place that officially sells damos files. Evc sells damos plugins for winols to be able to use damos. You need damos that is exactly suited for your file, or, you can use some other damos+file for it in same ecu/car/motor family for help. Also, you need to know how engine works and what are the mechanical limits of its components, what tranny, clutch and everything else can handle. Its more than just buy some editing software and start to collect money.

Autoelectroni
2nd June, 2018, 05:36 PM
Yes Yes i know that I need to know what the limits are. No I send to my friend files and pay him and edit it. But i want to learn how to do it and those easy ecu firstly do by myself.
End learn learn learn.

1. Ok, and how much does costs ECUs on ECM titanium on credits? Will it find all maps?

2. Does ECM Titanium Ful+ Winols crack is good for begin/ newbie?

voltechcar
2nd June, 2018, 05:52 PM
ecm titanium - 3t euro , subscription 700 euro , crc pack 1500 euro.
winols base back 1500 euro, no subscription, damos or mappack to new car this is price about 200-250 euro. Crc pack.... hmmm this price maybe kill you.
Swiftec base 5t euro, subscription 1t euro. Crc Pack I dont know what is price but if you need I check.


Of course swiftec and ecm not have all maps to 70% and must edit in Winols, to search and edit maps bosch, dtc table etc..you need 1-2 years learn maps , so if you think " I buy software and do perfect job " you are wrong. To learn you need good solution for good tuners so you pay for software and must pay to good job other and than check difference. So check you wallet, he must big.

Autoelectroni
2nd June, 2018, 06:52 PM
Yes Voltechcar You are wright I do not want to buy software and do the pefect job I want buy software and then make edc15 other pay as i pay now to my friend for editing maps.
And then look on maps in winols Oryg and edited by him. And on ECM or swiftec look on what these maps are.
And i want also to read ORYG send file to frined and edit file by myself.

Then look on file modyfied by me and modified by my friend and see difreneces by my edit and profi edit.

What do you mean "CRC PACK"?

morgano
2nd June, 2018, 09:36 PM
He means the plugins needed to correct checksums in files after you edit them. Each editing software have its own.

Autoelectroni
5th June, 2018, 04:23 PM
Yes but should i buy checksums? If Kess, Ktag and Magpro2 corrects checksums automaticly while writing?
I think that now if you have oryg KEss or MAgpro or sth else you do not need any more checksums.

Am I right?

voltechcar
5th June, 2018, 10:01 PM
Try write denso 3.0 cdi, mazda r5f old, and other. In this ecu any tool not fix crc so trust me you need, I buy.

Diagagadir2018
2nd May, 2019, 11:46 AM
HELLO NEED MODEFY FILE ECU AUTO DPF OFF EGR OFF DTC OFF