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kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 02:06 PM
Hi,

I have problem with reading with ktag master euclone edc17 cp20 ecu from VW Transporter 2.0 tdi 140HP engine type caac, processor Tricore SAK-TC1796-256F150E. When I try to read backup I got message from ktag: Micro protection removal failed.

I was trying with protocol TC1796 VAG P187 and with protocol TC1796 VAG P165. In this two protocols I have got same message - Micro protection removal failed.

Does it mean that ktag can not do it?



Thanks

sdtsedat
1st June, 2018, 02:22 PM
Use protocol 199

kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 02:35 PM
but protocol P199 is fot edc 17 c46 with processor IROM TC1767 and my is edc 17 c20 with TC1796.
Are You sure that is good choice? If I will chose it and try to read will it not damage the ECU?

sdtsedat
1st June, 2018, 02:39 PM
No, just do it, you can choose edc17cp20 after choose. if wrong ktag say wrong

kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 02:42 PM
but th e connections (wires) should I do like in protocol P199 or P187 like ktag shows for EDC17 cp20?

sdtsedat
1st June, 2018, 02:43 PM
yes correct
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kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 02:46 PM
I do not understand? what connections should I chose? read as protocol P199 with connections like in P199 protocol or read with protocol P199 but with connections like in P187?

sdtsedat
1st June, 2018, 02:49 PM
Yes, connection from 187 and 199 is the same, if you choose protocol and 199 you can choose CP20 and this is the same connection

kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 03:35 PM
sorry but I have check the connections in protocol P187 and in Protocol P187 and they are not the same.

Protocol P199 connections: TC1767

pin 68 = can H
pin 67 = can L
pin 6, 87 = +12v
pin 2 = GND
and plus need to solder 2 wires on board


Protocols P187 connections: TC1796
pin 68 = can H
pin 67 = can L
pin 5,87 = +12v
pin 1 = GND
and plus nedd to solder one wire on board
so +12v pins are different and GND is different too. I attached fotos from ktag too.


Can You look at it? I am asking so long because I do not want to broke it. Thanks for your answer

dominik.m
1st June, 2018, 04:27 PM
You have different tool ?

dominik.m
1st June, 2018, 04:28 PM
FGTech clone ?

carmageddon
1st June, 2018, 04:31 PM
ktag/kess use always the same connection this families

connection possible for ecu with low level of TP

● Plug-in 165: EDC17C P20 XROM TC1796

● Plug-in 187: EDC17 CP20 IROM TC1796

connection possible for ecu with high level of TP

● Plug-in 427: EDC17 CP20 IROM TC1796 TPROT

your tool say that dont have password for this ecu, try to use 427

dominik.m
1st June, 2018, 04:42 PM
Mr.carmageddon You are right. But K-Tag clone it be not able to this make.

carmageddon
1st June, 2018, 05:30 PM
Mr.carmageddon You are right. But K-Tag clone it be not able to this make.

i think you are wrong, because i made various edc17cp20 from trasporter till 2016 with clone 2.08-2.11-2.23

TDI 84 HP 03L906019GD_6288 TPROT_V10.00.00
TDI 102 HP 03L906022CD_9970 TPROT_V07.00.00

https://s33.postimg.cc/49icgsl17/ktag208.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/49icgsl17/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/ttkmmn68r/ktag211.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/ttkmmn68r/)

kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 07:21 PM
I have used Plug-in 427: EDC17 CP20 IROM TC1796 TPROT as Carmageddon said and it works.

I read and write this ecu with no problems.

Thanks to all

kobi2311
1st June, 2018, 09:17 PM
but when I started to write I load my new MPC file I pressed write button than ktag showed message - "please to load orginal file to compare" - so I loaded orginal file and after about 2 minutes ktag started to write my new MPC file. After next 3 minutes ktag showed message - "write complette succesfull".

carmageddon
2nd June, 2018, 08:00 AM
I have used Plug-in 427: EDC17 CP20 IROM TC1796 TPROT as Carmageddon said and it works.

I read and write this ecu with no problems.

Thanksto all


good

can you send here your flash readout?

voltechcar
2nd June, 2018, 08:53 AM
genuine in new platform not have this problem.... one protocol to cpu with and without otp.

kobi2311
4th June, 2018, 09:36 PM
hi

here is orginal flash read with ktag boot mode

hp79
10th January, 2019, 11:22 AM
happend to me too

you need to select the right ecu ver
meny ver of edc17cp20
look at the pcb bord you can look
near boot pin if the electronics are the same
if i remember its the tprt ver

Hexer84
7th February, 2020, 05:37 PM
i think you are wrong, because i made various edc17cp20 from trasporter till 2016 with clone 2.08-2.11-2.23

TDI 84 HP 03L906019GD_6288 TPROT_V10.00.00
TDI 102 HP 03L906022CD_9970 TPROT_V07.00.00

https://s33.postimg.cc/49icgsl17/ktag208.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/49icgsl17/)

https://s33.postimg.cc/ttkmmn68r/ktag211.jpg (https://postimg.cc/image/ttkmmn68r/)I can confirm that this worked for me to.

Thank you

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SchmidtTuning
13th October, 2021, 06:05 PM
Were you able to read? I need the same file, is it possible that you send me the file?