citroen jumper key add key

[drugowaz]

hi. please advise citroen jumper looks like fiat system.

owner key ordering and sais it will be precoded by vin.

what tool kad add it xtool lonsdor or other. pin required?

[PocketHero]

Nothing is precoded. Needs the correct Fiat remote. Programmed with SBB2.

[drugowaz]

full key and remote will be new. i guess chip vill be precoded by vin.
don tave ssb

any other options?
do i need pin?
need choose fiat ducato option for this model?

[rapidlocksmiths]

if JUMPER and not Jumpy then it is indeed a fiat system and it is indeed a precoded key to vin , plenty of kit can code the precoded key from dealer ;

Abrites , zedfull , truecode , MVP pro and AD100 pro can all code in a dealer key from dealer

abrites and zedfull can precode and program the key

ducato/boxer system should do it

[PocketHero]

Pin is need, but you can clone the existing chip, and teach remote as a Ducato. Pin is only needed for the chip.

[rapidlocksmiths]

if the remote key is from dealer already precoded and prepared , then most programmers that can do ducato and boxer after 2010 should code this , but pin will be needed unless provided with key , remote is coded at same time as the key, again abrites , zedfull , mvp etc should all read pin code

[PocketHero]

Ok, depends on the age of the car...

[rapidlocksmiths]

if a Jumper , these started in late 2010/2011 on id46 as long as he meant jumper and not jumpy , but as dealer says fiat system and is providing a dealer precoded fiat key then safe to assume its later jumper and not jumpy

[p1et]

Citoen Jumper is same as Fiat Ducato and Peugeot Boxer. From 2002-2006 precoded ID48 transponder and immo box. From 2006 till arund 2008/9 still ID48 but immo in BSI. Later ID46. No matter which model you have, yes you need PIN Code. If I have dealer key and dont have PIN code, I read it with MVP and program with other tool without token. Lonsdor can program I tried and it's woking

[drugowaz]

its 100% jumper 2010.

so remote will be added same time as chip? or separate procedure.

you extract pin with mvp or lonsdor?

[p1et]

Fiat system, transponder need precoding (you don't need as you have dealer key) Citoen Jumper is same as Fiat Ducato and Peugeot Boxer. From 2002-2006 precoded ID48 transponder and immo box. From 2006 till arund 2008/9 still ID48 but immo in BSI. Later ID46. No matter which model you have, yes you need PIN Code. If I have dealer key and dont have PIN code, I read it with MVP and program with other tool without token. Lonsdor can program I tried and it's woking.

Pin code you can obtain from immobox / BSI. When I already have dealer key I prefer to use 1 token and no dismantle anything

[rapidlocksmiths]

added at same time as chip , same as with ducato after 2010 , same marelli remote .

so need one of the programmers that can code this system and can read pin if not provided

[drugowaz]

key is this style
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Citroen-Jumper-Van-3-Button-Flip-Remote-Key-Fob-Case-Blank-Blade-/121293412492?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

[PocketHero]

This is added separated. Just the new oval ones are learning together

[castin]

I think PCF7946 inside. Need prepare data for central lock. Need pin or tango.

[p1et]

This black remote key might be ID48 aswell as ID46. But all you need is just PIN code no matter which one it really is.


I think PCF7946 inside. Need prepare data for central lock. Need pin or tango.

He got dealer precoded key.

[rob h]

http://zedfull.net/img/cms/fiat.pdf

[drugowaz]

can lonsdor or xtool extract pin?

[p1et]

can lonsdor or xtool extract pin?

Lonsdor not able. Only key programming

[Daveskeys]

You can buy pin from dealer or code broker.

[drugowaz]

ok got it. situation is clear now. thanks guys

[rapidlocksmiths]

just for future reference , when making such enquiries putting the vehicle year or vin on post helps alot to be more accurate with correct advice and parts

[drugowaz]

i could but i got random calls cars not in garage. not always possible get all info fast.

back to thread abou fiat alfa lancia cars
anyone using avdi or IQ ? for reading pin ,key data etc.

what has more coverage and more capabilities?

[rob h]

Pin from eeprom bsi, OR ioterminal and smok uhds.

[drugowaz]

so IO is better investment?

[PocketHero]

Not sure matey wich is better, but FVDI can read some pins too, and is the cheapest solution for your problem

[drugowaz]

im talking not only about this situation.

but for future investmens on these brands

[drugowaz]

looking at supports list.

for these cars good combination tango+IO
read dump by obd prepare by dump. than learn with any tool by obd with pin.

how about tango its preparing remote part for keys with pcf7946/47?

[PocketHero]

Excellent m8! Renault group never failed (with Nissan), good when you have to deal with Beemers, and failed me only once @ PSA, not sure that the remote was wrong or the 206 was defected.
Sometimes when I don't have the needed remote I take a Keydi with 7946, program it, and then the situation is saved.

To be honest it is worth buying it

[p1et]

looking at supports list.
how about tango its preparing remote part for keys with pcf7946/47?

Unfortunately Tango cannot precode remote for Fiat. I use Miraclone for this type of job. I write new dump back to BSI and no need for further OBD programming.

As I know original Zed-Bull and TMpro precode remote also.

[drugowaz]

well IO no need remove bsi. all by obd.
guess for fiat lancia best avdi. read precode program by odb.

[p1et]

Yeah, AVDI is perfect for Fiat/Lancia. So fast and easy. Had a chance to see how my friend work with this. Fiat 500 1 minute job with reading data/precoding and programming.

[castin]

Im use IO for FIat (BSI and BSI2 activation) - all work without problem. Try on Alfa GT 2004, Grande Punto, Punto EVO - work perfect. And no need working key, for read BSI by obd2.
P.S. Take out and plug in back BSI from Fiat GP - horror :D

[drugowaz]

you make only chips?
how about precoding remotes? :)

[jodge]

ioterminal give you a precode data too not just the eeprom dump. Both id48 and id46. Obviously the id48 just the tp but the id46 tp+remote. Later you can preprog the tp any kind of programmer

[jodge]

oops one more thing the ioterminal coverage isn't too wide. I mean the old delphi like 2001 punto or the new black magneti marelli like 500L/mito/gulietta is missing
The best solution is avdi or zedfull the second best is truecode+ioterminal+(tmpro/miraclone)

[drugowaz]

thanks for info.
avdi read pin data without working key by obd?

[rapidlocksmiths]

avdi does not need working key , very quick very efficient on fiat , ive done loads all keys lost and in minutes and all by obd

[drugowaz]

ok case closed :)