Bmw e 36 ews problem

[Claudiu_dar]

Hey Guys,

I need help for starting a Bmw 320i from '96.The car stayd with ignition on for 3 days and from that time it dosen't start.I attached here some pictures with my scans.I don't know what is to do.I understand that the Bmw key has a variable which is changeing every time.
Bmw
2.0 gas
ECU siemens ms 41
EWS 2
HW 01 SW 01
61.35-4 378 793

Immo off dosen't seems to be a solution.

[ana_11]

write new key, use gambit

[Claudiu_dar]

Can you please help me? I don't know what is that.
Thank you in advance.

[Meat-Head]

as it doesn't start you have noting to loose, try turning the key

on, off, 7 times and on the 8th turn try crancking the engine.

something a man from the 'Alcoholics Anoymous' told me down the pub.

[salih]

Hi,
friend gambit is device use to program new key for BMW

see this link
Nour auto key (http://www.nourautokey.com)
thx

[bali motor]

Hey Guys,

I need help for starting a Bmw 320i from '96.The car stayd with ignition on for 3 days and from that time it dosen't start.I attached here some pictures with my scans.I don't know what is to do.I understand that the Bmw key has a variable which is changeing every time.
Bmw
2.0 gas
ECU siemens ms 41
EWS 2
HW 01 SW 01
61.35-4 378 793

im*o off dosen't seems to be a solution.


hi,

your vin WBACB51020AN08447.
ews you have all filled the key. empty only number 8 key
your password :417344015B16.

i've reset ews, you can try all keys that you have.


regard,
komang

[Claudiu_dar]

tnx man your solution is wright.
Problem solved,can be closed.

[antioqueno]

hi,

your vin WBACB51020AN08447.
ews you have all filled the key. empty only number 8 key
your password :417344015B16.

i've reset ews, you can try all keys that you have.


regard,
komang

i have the equal problem
the file the ews is made with bmw kwy maker
BMW 3281 MOD 96
EWS II
DME SIEMMENS 41.0
thanks

[bali motor]

i have the equal problem
the file the ews is made with bmw kwy maker
BMW 3281 MOD 96
EWS II
DME SIEMMENS 41.0
thanks


HI, TRY THIS FILE.
IF YOU HAVE OLD KEY USE IT, THIS FILE HAS RESET.

REGARD

[antioqueno]

HI, TRY THIS FILE.
IF YOU HAVE OLD KEY USE IT, THIS FILE HAS RESET.

REGARD

The hardware for this file is ???

thanks

[bali motor]

The hardware for this file is ???

thanks

yes, it file for some hw,

your original dump is damaged, I replace with a new dump. and I have the original data input from the old dump. including key data.

regard

[antioqueno]

yes, it file for some hw,

your original dump is damaged, I replace with a new dump. and I have the original data input from the old dump. including key data.

regard

i need the procedure for replace the dump.
hardware and software

saludos
feliz navidad

[bali motor]

i need the procedure for replace the dump.
hardware and software

saludos
feliz navidad


YOU HAVE BMW KEY PROGRAM OR X-PROG?

you write file from me to ews. instal ews, use old key you have.

regard

[cjawahir]

hi can you tell me how to make connection to write to chip using BMW key prog from china ?

is it the same a reading ?

cj

[bali motor]

hi can you tell me how to make connection to write to chip using BMW key prog from china ?

is it the same a reading ?

cj

Can you tell me which tool you use?
can you send pictures it?

this my key program.

regard.

[cjawahir]

Can you tell me which tool you use?
can you send pictures it?

this my key program.

regard.

same as this.

with this program how do you know what key is used and not used ?

cj

[bali motor]

if your programmer it same,
i send picture your safe conect to ews 2
and if your mcu in ews 1D47J (ews 01) or 2D47J (ews o1) you must put mcu on the board.

regard

[bali motor]

this picture edit dump ews.

[cjawahir]

this picture edit dump ews.

hi , how do you know the line on the screen dump , about key position ,

thanks cj

[bali motor]

hi , how do you know the line on the screen dump , about key position ,

thanks cj


I studied with someone in the UK, he taught me how to recognize dump ews.

[bali motor]

if there is someone who can give lessons on mercedes dump, I want to learn, is also about knowing ecu dump.

regard,
komang

[ptkptk]

please kindly help me , i use bmw key programmer to dump my car EWS and make key but it is not success and old and new key cannot start now. please....

my file is on this link:

Deposit Files (http://depositfiles.com/files/i12qmb4g0)

i don't how to upload on the web and please kindly send file to my e-mail ptk_th@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance.

[cjawahir]

please kindly help me , i use bmw key programmer to dump my car EWS and make key but it is not success and old and new key cannot start now. please....

my file is on this link:

Deposit Files (http://depositfiles.com/files/i12qmb4g0)

i don't how to upload on the web and please kindly send file to my e-mail ptk_th@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance.

everything looks ok with dump to me ,did you make key for position 5 to 9 those position is not in use .

can you scan the EWS module ? if you cant sometimes the elmos ic may be damage .

cj

[ptkptk]

before dump EWS. I can start. After dump , i make key number 5 used and write in on new transponder. Then go to start engine but it is quiet. Then use original 4th key to start. It is quiet too.

Why not ?

[cjawahir]

hi , are you sure that the transponder is position in the correct direction ?

also check the gear is in park position , also clear any faults in the ews module .

cj

[antioqueno]

YOU HAVE BMW KEY PROGRAM OR X-PROG?

you write file from me to ews. instal ews, use old key you have.

regard
i have the bmw key program
i need the procedure for write the ews, i replace with a new dump
thanks

[cammy25]

PLS guys..use gambit for programming new key. It always works ok for ews2.
else use emulator from smok for ews2.

SMOK (http://www.smok.com.pl/index.php?lang=en&id=oferta&kategoria=2&produkt=30)

[cjawahir]

PLS guys..use gambit for programming new key. It always works ok for ews2.
else use emulator from smok for ews2.

SMOK (http://www.smok.com.pl/index.php?lang=en&id=oferta&kategoria=2&produkt=30)


thanks for that info , can you tell me if its gambit 1 or 2 ?

did you ever use the emulator ?

cj

[MOBILTRONIC]

Anyway,look this.

[tolo986]

Hello
please link ews programmer on rapidshare

sorry may english

[PremierD]

Hello
please link ews programmer on rapidshare

sorry may english

Another OPW... Please give me .. but on my terms ....:stupid:

Listen mate ... at the very top of the forum screens .... there is a STICKY...new members read first.... And untill you've read it .. and complied ...NO is the answer .....:stupid:

[Fx323i]

Hi all, I'm new to this problem and would like to ask you several questions. I have a gambit II device and a bmw scanner 1.3.6 interface. Does this allow me to make a new transponder?

[antioqueno]

1.36 using the scanner this is the dump of ews ii but it tells me there is an error might help me correct it.


The key is working but I need to make a duplicate of this key

[Fx323i]

This dump is worthless since it doesn't contain any important data for making the key. You cannot make a duplicate of the key, but can make a new key with a proper dump of ews (read by a special interface directly from EWS).

[antioqueno]

This dump is worthless since it doesn't contain any important data for making the key. You cannot make a duplicate of the key, but can make a new key with a proper dump of ews (read by a special interface directly from EWS).

The dump of ews is made with bmw key maker and dump is bad.
i need help me correct it but can a new key

[rwgodoy]

I have an EWS2 with dump damaged.
Using this dump, will work with Original DME?
The DME is Bosch 0 261 203 667.

I use this dump on EWS2, and run with original key and original DME???

Thanks

[Fx323i]

The dump of ews is made with bmw key maker and dump is bad.
i need help me correct it but can a new key

The BMW Scanner 136 cannot read the whole EWS memory. You need a special interface to read it directly from the disassembled EWS unit ;)

rwgodoy: What is your dump byte size? Should be 512 bytes.

[rwgodoy]

This is the dump
I need for a EWS2 dump with DME Dump of same car...

[sogaro]

I studied with someone in the UK, he taught me how to recognize dump ews.

Can you teach here too so we know how to?

[bali motor]

Can you teach here too so we know how to?



what you want?
(http://automotive-electronics.net/forum/index.php)

[sogaro]

how to know key positions in EWS

[pepi]

Here you go.

[dego1500]

Hi, I am trying to resolve a key synchronisation issue on e46 2000 model. I am using bmw scanner 1.4 and inpa. I have got to the point where I unlock and erase ews after saving backup, but when configuring I do not know password for key ident.

ews backup dump is 913bytes , normal data dump is 256. I cannot get either of these to work with ews editor. Is there another program or manual method of extracting password and fixed codes for all keys? I seem to have all other info except this.

Please help!!

[dego1500]

nyone? I need some help on this.
Cannot edit file with ews editor.
Need to retrieve ews key password and fixed codes.
Dump from ews using bmwscanner 1.4

Thanks

[bali motor]

nyone? I need some help on this.
Cannot edit file with ews editor.
Need to retrieve ews key password and fixed codes.
Dump from ews using bmwscanner 1.4

Thanks

what program you use read dump ews?

[mihai_vyt]

anyone have a dump for e36 ews61.358562 337 immo off?
thank`s

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[bram380]

Upload ews dump m8...

[mihai_vyt]

here is the dump:RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting (http://rapidshare.com/files/396234213/bmwe36_24c04.bin)
ews:61.35 8 552 337
ecu-wbabf51050 ep04438
320i


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[mihai_vyt]

siemens ecu

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[mihai_vyt]

siemens ms41.0

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[Morpheos3]

I have a problem with a 0261203276 BOSCH ECU ....
I changed the engine in a 316 e36 ... the new engine has this type of ecu with ews ... the old one dose not have ews .... so ... the question is someone out there that can tell me how i can make just the ecu immo off ?
Thanks in advance!!!
PS sorry for my bad english but i hope u will understand what i mean!!!

[Cardedon]

Anyway,look this.
Mobitronic,
Can you tell me how to use this?
The first schematic is for direct interface to the processor?
What software can i use for dump it?
Best regards and ty for your help.
I'm trying to save an old E36 that have a fried EWS2 (i already changed the fried one and i need to reprogram the used working one)

[mage]

Mobitronic,
Can you tell me how to use this?
The first schematic is for direct interface to the processor?
What software can i use for dump it?
Best regards and ty for your help.
I'm trying to save an old E36 that have a fried EWS2 (i already changed the fried one and i need to reprogram the used working one)

When i get a used EWS2 i also take the keys with it (pull out the chips and put them in your car keys)
Then read with (INPA) soft ISN number from DME that you are going to use.
Then program with (INPA) soft this ISN number in EWS.

[Cardedon]

I don't have access to the old keys.
I read about an interface for dump EWS in this thread but noone tell the software to use.
Mobitronic posted it on page 2 and is called EWS programmer.rar
Do you know the software needed for dump EWS?
I have all the hardware posted

[mage]

IMobitronic posted it on page 2 and is called EWS programmer.rar
Do you know the software needed for dump EWS?


It's a interface, but EWS?

No, if have seen many interfaces for EWS but this I don't
know.
Also you have many types EWS motorola's so if you find the soft belonging to that interface you have to be whery lucky to get a working Key-EWS-DME

This simple EWS2 i only take from scrap with transponder chip. And after 5 minutes have a working system.

[MOBILTRONIC]

I don't have access to the old keys.
I read about an interface for dump EWS in this thread but noone tell the software to use.
Mobitronic posted it on page 2 and is called EWS programmer.rar
Do you know the software needed for dump EWS?
I have all the hardware posted
View pictures and you will be cleared.Is the best,desolder MCU and connect as shown,success in reading is warranted.Use any sw UPA 2.3 serial programmer,Motorola cracker or better UPA usb,ETL hc11 programmer.Regards.

[Cardedon]

TY SO MUCH MOBI
You :thrasher:
Just a last question
The programmer that you posted don't have these names (MODA MODB RESET etc) but it just say to connect to some pins that doesn't match with the diagram that you posted now.

[fred1083]

my bmw wont crank, no gas, no spark, seems like the ews is preventing it. i bought the car as a no runner. the guy who had it before me said it ran fine, he started it up during winter let it ran for 30 mins, then turned it off. one week later he went back to start it and nothing. i had the dme fixed by a computer specialist because it was waterlogged, but it still doesnt turn over, still no gas and no spark.

[mage]

my bmw wont crank, no gas, no spark, seems like the ews is preventing it. i bought the car as a no runner. the guy who had it before me said it ran fine, he started it up during winter let it ran for 30 mins, then turned it off. one week later he went back to start it and nothing. i had the dme fixed by a computer specialist because it was waterlogged, but it still doesnt turn over, still no gas and no spark.

Ews could gif this problems.
You car EWS2 is friendly system.(not big problem)
Best way is to first read fault memory EWS and DME
and post DTC(s)

[Cardedon]

I can't access to my EWS with impa. It say EWS NOT RESPONSIVE.
I tryed 3 EWS but always receive the same message.
3 EWS broken or maybe DME that doesn't allow to comunicate with EWS?
I can access all the other things in my car so is not a cable or a comunication problem of the computer.
I can also access to DME that say that EWS is offline in the error list (the error say EWS in open circuit or short circuit)
Someone here can help me please?

[mage]

Old style Ews in your car uses also S/E module.
S/E = connected to transponderring and EWS

Your EWS is always online but you cannot read(diagnose)
When you put ignition on S/E sends signal to EWS and then EWS wakeup and can be read.

First try to find S/E (blackbox with 2 connectors)
Position under steeringcolum
One connector with 3 wires on it you have to have
+bat and -bat (with ign on)

If S/E +bat = not present you cannot do diagnose!
and car also not start.

[Cardedon]

Hi mage i found it and is connected and have power but i still cannot enter in the EWS.
Any other thing that i can do?
Do you have a pinout for try to access the EWS on the table connecting an OBD cable directly?
Some way for bypass it and eliminate the problem?

[mage]

Yes I have.

On table you can do testing (and diagnose), this workt for me!

-EWS 2 (small white/purple) K line
-EWS 5 (red/yellow) to +12V power
-EWS 7 (brown) to ground
-EWS 13 (small blue) to S/E (pin3)

Connect S/E (white connector) pin1 to -bat, pin2 to +bat and pin3 to EWS(13)
When you powerup S/E (pin2 to +bat) this module sends signal to pin13 EWS
Signal = message $05 or $10 (9600,8,E,1)

After this powerup you can read with diag. software on table:)

If still no communication ? S/E bad?
S/E sending message?

[Cardedon]

Ok tnx so much.
I also have an interface for connect SE direcly to the serial port so i can test SE without EWS.
I think is this the damaged part because i changed 3 EWS so is impossible all 3 defective

[gtmech]

I have exactly the same problem as PTKPTK.

I took a dump of EWS with BMW Key programmer (red and black box - HC11 programmer), then I programmed a new key, everything went perfectly. Then I put EWS back into car and now my new key or my 2 original keys wont start the car anymore. Could the EWS dump be corrupted? Car cranks but wont fire, even tried resyncing EWS to DME but no luck. Anyone know what could of happened? I can still scan and talk to EWS with scan tool and it identify's it still perfectly but the car wont start anymore. Car is 2002 330ci Motorsport - EWS 3, any help very much appreciated.

[mage]

Already read DME for faults?
EWS no faults?

You can try to post dump here.

[gtmech]

here it is

EWS 3 B_0D46J_2001-2006_2010-08-03_0001.BIN (http://www.mediafire.com/file/udzwhqjhvmpf4sn/EWS) 3 B_0D46J_2001-2006_2010-08-03_0001.BIN

[fredkat78]

I have a 320i M52B20A with Siemens MS41 DME that intermittantly (1 out of 5) non starts where crank is released by EWS2 but ISN exchange at DME not releasing injectors & coils. Could a resynch cure corruption or should I get dump of EWS and flash into donor DME?

[cjawahir]

hi try to wrie this to ews ,

cj

[fredkat78]

Thankyou cjawahir, what is the effective tool to write this to DME?

[gtmech]

Thankyou cjawahir, what is the effective tool to write this to DME?

You need to write it to the EWS, not the DME buddy. To do this use this:

X Prog-M Programmer

Thats what I always use and it works perfectly.
Note: When refitting EWS to car make sure ALL DTC codes are cleared before attempting to start car. From experience, if you dont clear the codes the EWS somehow still think theres a fault so it wont allow the car to start. I have been fooled by this 3 times now, its weird I agree but it works.

[fredkat78]

Thankyou gtmech, I've been looking at the X prog Motorola programmer options (tmt/clones). With this can I program to EWS2 on vehicle or bench?
Is there a specific tool for Bosch & Siemens (BMW) chip applications? I can put up with this issue but intend to cure with the virgin EWS2 reflash to reset the DME immo handshake. Cheers.

[goldilox]

hi guys,
i have a 1997 E36 EWS2 with 2D47J.
AK90 tells me dump is corrupted, Zedbull say its ok, xprog-m has no dramas with it but car wont start.
I have now after taking proccessor on and off the board melted the rectangle blue capacitor.
Anyone know where I can get this part from and if you can check the dump for me that would be great.37900

[cjawahir]

hi , the dump is damage,

cj

[cjawahir]

hi guys,
i have a 1997 E36 EWS2 with 2D47J.
AK90 tells me dump is corrupted, Zedbull say its ok, xprog-m has no dramas with it but car wont start.
I have now after taking proccessor on and off the board melted the rectangle blue capacitor.
Anyone know where I can get this part from and if you can check the dump for me that would be great.37900

does the car crank ?

if car dont crank , try this dump and make key position 4-9.

cj

[goldilox]

thanks cj,
the car does crank and i have got it to start now but i would like to repair the dump. I have a funny feeling that the vin is incorrect because when i cange the vin in other dumps to anything other than a w in the first position the programms react the same as the corrupted dump i have.
I will get the vin tomorrow and change it in the dump and see what happens

[gtmech]

how is the dump getting corrupted to start with?
if u take a read of the dump first and that would be your backup and then you make a copy of that and play with the code of the copy only then if the copy is corrupted then cant you just reinstall the backup again? Or is the backup copy of the dump the one that is corrupted mate?
What did u read the 2D47J with?

[cjawahir]

thanks cj,
the car does crank and i have got it to start now but i would like to repair the dump. I have a funny feeling that the vin is incorrect because when i cange the vin in other dumps to anything other than a w in the first position the programms react the same as the corrupted dump i have.
I will get the vin tomorrow and change it in the dump and see what happens

hi , how did you get the car to crank ?
did you make new key ?

did you write the file i send ?

dont do any thing as yet until you answer these question.

because if the car is cranking the key is working just sync with scan tool .

cj

[goldilox]

Thanks for your responses,
all I have done is used the existing file, I have not changed anything in it, the problem was the key failed to start the car on a couple of occasions it would crank but not start and had to be towed, twice in 3 days, the first mechanic said it had an EWS fault. they cleared it and it started.
The second time it went to a BMW mechanic, who said that he would need a new EWS and keys$$$$$
My first thought was the S/E module or read coil but after reading it with xprogm, yes 2D47J. and finding the file to be corrupt with xprogm, then read the dump in zedbull it said nothing about the file being corrupt. Just asked which key you wanted to program. I am stumped but is a problem I want to solve:hmmmm2:
The car is a manager at one of my biggest clients, so it is worth spending time to get it right.
I thought that it could be a code rolling problem. but his second key wouldn't work either.
any Suggestions?

thanks for you help

[vanos batam]

Thanks for your responses,
all I have done is used the existing file, I have not changed anything in it, the problem was the key failed to start the car on a couple of occasions it would crank but not start and had to be towed, twice in 3 days, the first mechanic said it had an EWS fault. they cleared it and it started.
The second time it went to a BMW mechanic, who said that he would need a new EWS and keys$$$$$
My first thought was the S/E module or read coil but after reading it with xprogm, yes 2D47J. and finding the file to be corrupt with xprogm, then read the dump in zedbull it said nothing about the file being corrupt. Just asked which key you wanted to program. I am stumped but is a problem I want to solve:hmmmm2:
The car is a manager at one of my biggest clients, so it is worth spending time to get it right.
I thought that it could be a code rolling problem. but his second key wouldn't work either.
any Suggestions?

thanks for you help
ask.. bali motor

[gtmech]

Thanks for your responses,
all I have done is used the existing file, I have not changed anything in it, the problem was the key failed to start the car on a couple of occasions it would crank but not start and had to be towed, twice in 3 days, the first mechanic said it had an EWS fault. they cleared it and it started.
The second time it went to a BMW mechanic, who said that he would need a new EWS and keys$$$$$
My first thought was the S/E module or read coil but after reading it with xprogm, yes 2D47J. and finding the file to be corrupt with xprogm, then read the dump in zedbull it said nothing about the file being corrupt. Just asked which key you wanted to program. I am stumped but is a problem I want to solve:hmmmm2:
The car is a manager at one of my biggest clients, so it is worth spending time to get it right.
I thought that it could be a code rolling problem. but his second key wouldn't work either.
any Suggestions?

thanks for you help

Yeh I hate those 2D47J chips aswell buddy, you can guarantee whenever theres a problem it will be that chip that you will be working with.
I have heard this problem being discussed before here on DK, if you can keep resynching the EWS to DME and it works then it looks like the same problem, unfortnately there was no solution answer in the post but have a look anyway
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f178/2000-bmw-528i-e39-ews-166585/