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marcomomma
25th July, 2018, 10:03 AM
I have a doubt
I'm thinking of buying an original kess slave.
I downloaded the ksuite 3.11 list.
I do not understand 2 things:


do I read the pcr2.1 and write via obd? Do I have to buy other accessories?


another question
if it is written obd bench. what does it mean?
because obd vr and obd r and w I understand that it can be done.

DR Race
25th July, 2018, 10:37 AM
CMD flashtech do it over OBD ,i never look into ksuite

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voltechcar
25th July, 2018, 06:21 PM
Kess do it be obd on car to any problem. I do this ecu one on week

marcomomma
26th July, 2018, 01:07 PM
sorry if I insist but I still have not clear the question


kess Method
Obd bench?
Obd pach?
obd r & w .... ok
obd vr .... ok


I would like to know regarding bench and pach what does that mean?
do I have to open the ecu and use ktag?


or can I read and write via obd?


why do they make this distinction?

DR Race
26th July, 2018, 01:48 PM
sorry if I insist but I still have not clear the question


kess Method
Obd bench?
Obd pach?
obd r & w .... ok
obd vr .... ok


I would like to know regarding bench and pach what does that mean?
do I have to open the ecu and use ktag?


or can I read and write via obd?


why do they make this distinction?Tomorrow morning I will be by my tool and I will check for you !

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marcomomma
26th July, 2018, 01:54 PM
I'm waiting for your answer
I have to take it too
but I want to understand what I can do with this tool

voltechcar
26th July, 2018, 11:50 PM
No need open ecu, the same in edc17 vag. Read id by obd, than ksuite download vr file. You edit and write by obd, simple and fast.

marcobh5
27th July, 2018, 06:26 AM
Obd bench need in certein car example car whit doip connection. Need dismount ecu but not open connect pinout whit can wire and read and write
Obd patch need for disabling tprot for reading writing obd. Like pcr 2.1

marcomomma
27th July, 2018, 09:51 AM
I am not convinced
I seem to have understood that for pcr2.1 there is no need to make breakouts.
reads and writes automatically.


or should I buy this kit?

https://www.alientechuk.co.uk/products/14p600kt05

DR Race
27th July, 2018, 10:05 AM
I have some trouble to help you , I hope I can fix all today and post answer ,in the mornings I try to start ksuite to look for you ,tool made new update 3.11 ,all ok by update ,after update try to start ksuite and it wont work ,now I have contact alientech for support!545000

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moky
27th July, 2018, 11:20 AM
you did best thing to do wait answer from Alientech.. !

DR Race
27th July, 2018, 12:10 PM
Answer from Alientech, try to uninstall completely and install new , I downloaded new software ,old uninstalled, 3 time install from 0 , same problem., Cmd and mpps work on same laptop with no problem!

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DR Race
27th July, 2018, 05:46 PM
My Tool is back to live ,i have checked Simos PCR 2.1 FOR YOU, and thenks to protocole 352 it is all full obd ,I have master tool, not sure about slave but I think it must be the same , you can choose full obd or oldschool mode with bootloader module ,both are active for this ecu type, I use for this ecu Cmd Flash and it is full obd ,newer tested kess but It is active!545117https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/5e857ac2bb9a9f523d188efc2466d534.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/424312099b00142833648a3930928bd4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/b7a46e7421b8b31b939f6e8979e62984.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/55f3f7924bb0e52f03124eedd59b5f5e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180727/74958bd84036bf0d48fe70bb47b035c2.jpg

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voltechcar
27th July, 2018, 06:16 PM
People you are is stupid or what? I write all information and you are still not understand? All pcr2.1 be obd, use standart cable obd, no need open, no need bench unlock. again..... ALL BE OBD THE SAME WHAT EDC17 VAG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sdtsedat
27th July, 2018, 06:26 PM
Agree with voltechcar, he gave me advice for buy original kess, and now i do all vag over obd, no more open ecu's. Also pcr over obd, full obd. Locked or unlocked no matter.
I repeat, ALL VAG obd with original kess

Regards,

icezero2010
27th July, 2018, 06:32 PM
People you are is stupid or what? I write all information and you are still not understand? All pcr2.1 be obd, use standart cable obd, no need open, no need bench unlock. again..... ALL BE OBD THE SAME WHAT EDC17 VAG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nobody read here :-D u must make a good video with nice womans and beer than every user watched it :D

voltechcar
27th July, 2018, 06:35 PM
Now I see because support Alientech when we cooperated write stupid question..... I write 3 times and guyt still ask the same..... ohhh god.

marcomomma
27th July, 2018, 06:49 PM
voltechcar
what should I tell you? thanks friend
but unfortunately I read more and they confused my ideas.
example pcr2.1:
having ksuite 2.47 I read that they were unlocked
on ksuite 3.11 now it is written that they are done via VR. but I'm sure it was not like that before. I am wrong?


obd bench:
instead they must be unlocked before reading them and writing them in obd
qundi I do not have to open but unplug to connect the machine connect the ecu to the pin as he said marcobh5 that I thank

sdtsedat
27th July, 2018, 06:54 PM
Ecu locked or unlocked, closed or open, or what you see ( no matter) you do this car over obd! (Only with geniune kess) so don't be think on ideas

lsdlsd88
27th July, 2018, 06:56 PM
I repeat, ALL VAG obd with original kess

Regards,

no you don't, because VR database of kess SUCKS.

we need to use cmd or x17 very often due to that.

sdtsedat
27th July, 2018, 06:58 PM
Yeaahh, 1 time on 100000 ecu dont have on database.
At this time you make ticket and alientech give you ori file.

I brick many times ecu's with cmd, write ok and car no start...
Magpro, i hear from people they also brick ecu's

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DR Race
27th July, 2018, 06:59 PM
Not only kess has not all models , I had trouble with vr olsow with CMD Flashtech, BMW e61 520 edc17 cp02 file not found on server , same with passat b7 2013 !

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lsdlsd88
27th July, 2018, 07:08 PM
Yeaahh, 1 time on 100000 ecu dont have on database.
At this time you make ticket and alientech give you ori file.


I can forward you probably 100 emails of them saying "sorry we don't have this file, please check NEXT WEEK". LOL. always next week.

if you don't have this problem it only means you don't do enough cars.

voltechcar
28th July, 2018, 07:41 AM
to much tv you watch...... Ask Ignas how works X17 or CMD than you understand how works rest tool on the market.

lsdlsd88
28th July, 2018, 07:50 AM
Luckily I use them on a daily basis. but not on all cars, you need the right tool for the right job :)

DR Race
28th July, 2018, 09:13 AM
Kess it is a good tool ,but I had trouble on some car , Audi A8 4.2 tdi 326 hp ,read till 90 % and there trow up communication error , BMW 520 D 163 2008 ,unknown ecu and refused to read , Renault megane GT 180 hp ,stop reading at 75 % , I have done this car with CMD no problem , sometimes with mpps olso no problem ,but kess is one of the best tool !

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voltechcar
28th July, 2018, 10:36 AM
I have 2 years Kess genuine, never have problem with any Bmw, ALL vag read, 2 times no have vr pcr 2.1, so use vcp upgrade software to bigger sw and problem solved.

DR Race
28th July, 2018, 10:44 AM
I have 2 years Kess genuine, never have problem with any Bmw, ALL vag read, 2 times no have vr pcr 2.1, so use vcp upgrade software to bigger sw and problem solved.I have olsow Genuine Kess master and work werry good, but I had 3 car with problems!

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