it's possible to format the airbag calculator?

[finga]

hi guys!!
i have just had un little accident :banghead:with my Renault MeganeII BM0F, but fortunately the airbags don't burst.. only the calculator is locked with the crash...
briefly ,i'm asking if i can use the airbag calculator again ??and how to make it blank ??

[Jose19]

hi guys!!
i have just had un little accident :banghead:with my Renault MeganeII BM0F, but fortunately the airbags don't burst.. only the calculator is locked with the crash...
briefly ,i'm asking if i can use the airbag calculator again ??and how to make it blank ??
Hi

HUM.....Very strange!!!!! " fortunately the airbags don't burst.. " even pretensiores?
Take of the ecu, read dump file, is a eep 95160,post here and we help you

[finga]

Hi

HUM.....Very strange!!!!! " fortunately the airbags don't burst.. " even pretensiores?
Take of the ecu, read dump file, is a eep 95160,post here and we help you

no even the pretensiores did't brust.

How can i read the "dump file" ? By the Clip Renault ?

Please explain to me how to do step by step ( i'm new here ).

[mes_cal]

heh step by step :
Remove the airbag ecu in the car.
Open the ecu and find memory spi 95160 on pcb(8pin).
Desolder this memo , and use programmer for reading this memo (seeprog , upa , or other)
Reading mem and give the reading dump on this forum .
Uff - Clip not clear crashdata in airbag ecu .

BR

[Jose19]

heh step by step :
Remove the airbag ecu in the car.
Open the ecu and find memory spi 95160 on pcb(8pin).
Desolder this memo , and use programmer for reading this memo (seeprog , upa , or other)
Reading mem and give the reading dump on this forum .
Uff - Clip not clear crashdata in airbag ecu .

BR
Hi

They have some DIAGS do that, but the best way is read file dump.

Jose

[finga]

heh step by step :
Remove the airbag ecu in the car.
Open the ecu and find memory spi 95160 on pcb(8pin).
Desolder this memo , and use programmer for reading this memo (seeprog , upa , or other)
Reading mem and give the reading dump on this forum .
Uff - Clip not clear crashdata in airbag ecu .

BR

sorry i'm discovering my ignorance :musicus:!!!
i'll try to be more efficent tomorow,il will remove the ecu and i'll try to open it .
i'm not sur about some words:
"memory spi 95160" ... "pcb(8pin)"... "desolder memo"
wil i need cable or some thing else to read the ECU ... ??
tks to have been patient with me :)

[mes_cal]

Not cable to read this airbag ecu on obd2 .
Only read spi memory .This is no diffrend.
Another solution: Buy new airbag ecu in renault dealerschip :)

[finga]

Not cable to read this airbag ecu on obd2 .
Only read spi memory .This is no diffrend.
Another solution: Buy new airbag ecu in renault dealerschip :)

i removed the ecu, i opened it, i saw the 8pin memory on the pcb... and now how can i read this memory ?? and what are the touls that i'll need (soft and hardware) ??
tks tks tks to be patient !!

[Jose19]

i removed the ecu, i opened it, i saw the 8pin memory on the pcb... and now how can i read this memory ?? and what are the touls that i'll need (soft and hardware) ??
tks tks tks to be patient !!
Hi

Yes,for example you need UPA-USB,ETL,Beeprog or Seeprog,only with a progammer you are able to read dump file.

Jose

[oldford]

And equipment to remove the chip from the print. Normally work for professionals - maybe your local tv repair man?
Then you need an eeprom-programmer and software to read the removed chip. Then the chip must ne reprogrammed and soldered back into the unit. Then you hope it works.
Or buy a new unit from Renault.

[finga]

And equipment to remove the chip from the print. Normally work for professionals - maybe your local tv repair man?
Then you need an eeprom-programmer and software to read the removed chip. Then the chip must ne reprogrammed and soldered back into the unit. Then you hope it works.
Or buy a new unit from Renault.


Ok i'll look for all this tomorrow,i don't have pogrammer neither software now.
And what about the dump file? why should i post it on the forum?

[Jose19]

Ok i'll look for all this tomorrow,i don't have pogrammer neither software now.
And what about the dump file? why should i post it on the forum?
Read eep 95160 and post here, that is the only way we can help

Jose

[finga]

Read eep 95160 and post here, that is the only way we can help

Jose

this is my ecu !! so wich eproom should i remove ??


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[laldog]

This is above and beyond your capabilities. Leave it alone and go and buy a new ECU. You are playing with peoples lives here and its not worth finding out you have made a mistake.

[finga]

This is above and beyond your capabilities. Leave it alone and go and buy a new ECU. You are playing with peoples lives here and its not worth finding out you have made a mistake.

thanks for your answer !! i'am here to learn and to ask for help so please be kind with others !!

[florinyes]

Laldog is right.

You need to spend money (about 200 euros) on a hot air machine and then on a programmer and then to learn how to use it. A bit too much just for an airbag ecu. Do you usually work on cars or what you do for a living?

[finga]

this is my first time to delete crash from ecu m8!! my friend has all tools to remove chip and he has also programmer, i don"t have right to learn from you m8 ??All what i need is which eeprom should i remove there are two 8pin on the pcb

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[finga]

please help m8s !!!

[PremierD]

this is my first time to delete crash from ecu m8!! my friend has all tools to remove chip and he has also programmer, i don"t have right to learn from you m8 ??All what i need is which eeprom should i remove there are two 8pin on the pcb

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The one that has 95160 on it mate ...

[finga]

hello,
this is my crash dump file.
i hope that all what i did is correct. i have save it in binary format.

[PremierD]

Try this mate .....

[finga]

Try this mate .....



hey, unfortunately it didn't work:banghead: !!
i must specefy that my original ECU was damaged with the hot air (i didn't know how to use it in the begining) so i took an other one, for free, from a crashed car, but the some reference 604 53 90 00.

http://nsa11.casimages.com/img/2010/01/22/mini_10012209322053751.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=10012209322053751.jpg)


Please try to understand, my goal is not saving money by clearing ECU instead of buying an other for just 200euros. my goal is to learn how to do it.

My question is: when i clear crash data from the second ECU, it will be like a virgin one (it can go with all the megane) or it keeps the Keys of its own car ??

[PremierD]

hey, unfortunately it didn't work:banghead: !!
i must specefy that my original ECU was damaged with the hot air (i didn't know how to use it in the begining) so i took an other one, for free, from a crashed car, but the some reference 604 53 90 00.

http://nsa11.casimages.com/img/2010/01/22/mini_10012209322053751.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=10012209322053751.jpg)


Please try to understand, my goal is not saving money by clearing ECU instead of buying an other for just 200euros. my goal is to learn how to do it.

My question is: when i clear crash data from the second ECU, it will be like a virgin one (it can go with all the megane) or it keeps the Keys of its own car ??

Ah! the plot thickens mate ..... If you posted a different dump ..then the VIN ..number ..of it will not match yours ... So although it is theorecticly cleared ... The vins dont match .. (or something like that ....

[finga]

i understand from what you have just said that cleaning ECU is, cleading both :crash data and Vin ?
So theoretically, the second ECU that i took from a crashed car, will be operational with my car ( it will take my car VIN once connected ) isn't it ?

[PremierD]

i understand from what you have just said that cleaning ECU is, cleading both :crash data and Vin ?
So theoretically, the second ECU that i took from a crashed car, will be operational with my car ( it will take my car VIN once connected ) isn't it ?

Eh! ...no mate it won't ... The CRASH data has been cleared ....but not from YOUR control unit .... So it will contain the Vin data from the one you half inched (aquired)...Sorry....

eg... VF1LM1B0H32484342

Now whats your vin .. coz thats the Doner one mate ....

[Meat-Head]

Eh! ...no mate it won't ... The CRASH data has been cleared ....but not from YOUR control unit .... So it will contain the Vin data from the one you half inched (aquired)...Sorry....

So if he just edits the vin of the dump to match car and pops it into the chip, high-ho silver away?

[finga]

Eh! ...no mate it won't ... The CRASH data has been cleared ....but not from YOUR control unit .... So it will contain the Vin data from the one you half inched (aquired)...Sorry....

eg... VF1LM1B0H32484342

Now whats your vin .. coz thats the Doner one mate ....

What shall i do ??
Is there a possibilty to make the aquired control unit VIN blank ??

Do you know this part in the photo : this is the part that lock the steering wheel in Megane, there are professional here in Tunisia who make it clear from the VIN so it will be like a New Virgin one, it will function correctly with any car. but once connected it will take the new VIN .

http://nsa10.casimages.com/img/2010/01/22/mini_100122104035235914.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=100122104035235914.jpg)

So let's go back to the ECU, surely there is a possiblilty to make it all Blank !?

[PremierD]

What shall i do ??
Is there a possibilty to make the aquired control unit VIN blank ??

Do you know this part in the photo : this is the part that lock the steering wheel in Megane, there are professional here in Tunisia who make it clear from the VIN so it will be like a New Virgin one, it will function correctly with any car. but once connected it will take the new VIN .

http://nsa10.casimages.com/img/2010/01/22/mini_100122104035235914.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=100122104035235914.jpg)

So let's go back to the ECU, surely there is a possiblilty to make it all Blank !?

I would have thought that if you just ff ff ff ed the vin ... then its annonamous ... (virgin ) ... but I think that if you put in another vehicle ...in order to work ... it should have the vin of that vehicle written in ... usualy by the dealer diag machine ,,.. I am not sure that it ..."picks up " the VIN ... but who am I to argue ....

[finga]

I would have thought that if you just ff ff ff ed the vin ... then its annonamous ... (virgin ) ... but I think that if you put in another vehicle ...in order to work ... it should have the vin of that vehicle written in ... usualy by the dealer diag machine ,,.. I am not sure that it ..."picks up " the VIN ... but who am I to argue ....

i will make some attempts than i will inform you !!
it 's nice to learn isn't it ?? tkans a lot !!

[finga]

hi !!!
alll is OK !!!!
ECU clear !!!!!
Tks a lot !!