battleship7
9th December, 2018, 05:18 PM
Whenever I hear a person with a Original tool speak to a person with clone, they are usually bitter upon discovery he is using clone. And I really wanted to understand why? Just to be clear I am not endorsing any product here but I would like to see things with a clear mind. I know a lot of people here actually have clone tools (whether from China or Europe) even if they wont admit (for fear of losing respect or some kind of credibility from peers)
I have also seen that those clones work just as good as original in most of the cases. Then my biggest question is why are those original tools so mad expensive? Cheapest is probably the KTAG starting from at least €2000 with others demanding up to €8000 excluding subsequent annual licenses and updates, add-ons, up-sells or other bullshit. The fact that someone from china is able to clone a tool and make money selling it for a small fraction of the cost (like less than 10%) and is able to deliver the same results makes me wonder. Is the price of these original tools even justified? Or deliberately overpriced? I mean if materials of the unit are like US$50 bucks why should original buyers be asked to pay €2000 or €8000 upfront? Seems to me this is how the clone market came to life. Over a period of time the market determined the product (value + materials) is not justifying the price tag hence the existence of cheaper clones. My analogy could be wrong. What do you think?
If you go about this forum and other tuners forums you sense some kind of antagonism between clone owners and original owners. In my opinion that beef is misplaced and should probably be with manufacturer for incorrect pricing.
Perhaps its protectionism? And I wouldn’t be surprised
What do you guys think about this?
I have also seen that those clones work just as good as original in most of the cases. Then my biggest question is why are those original tools so mad expensive? Cheapest is probably the KTAG starting from at least €2000 with others demanding up to €8000 excluding subsequent annual licenses and updates, add-ons, up-sells or other bullshit. The fact that someone from china is able to clone a tool and make money selling it for a small fraction of the cost (like less than 10%) and is able to deliver the same results makes me wonder. Is the price of these original tools even justified? Or deliberately overpriced? I mean if materials of the unit are like US$50 bucks why should original buyers be asked to pay €2000 or €8000 upfront? Seems to me this is how the clone market came to life. Over a period of time the market determined the product (value + materials) is not justifying the price tag hence the existence of cheaper clones. My analogy could be wrong. What do you think?
If you go about this forum and other tuners forums you sense some kind of antagonism between clone owners and original owners. In my opinion that beef is misplaced and should probably be with manufacturer for incorrect pricing.
Perhaps its protectionism? And I wouldn’t be surprised
What do you guys think about this?