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SIMCAR2
8th December, 2009, 11:59 PM
HI

I need pin connection for ECU BOSCH EDC16...

Thanks

elektro128
9th December, 2009, 12:04 AM
http://www.cmdtec.it/downloadfile.asp?file=mpcprog_lq.pdf

regards

SIMCAR2
9th December, 2009, 12:18 AM
thanks

You can closed this topic

hoga
19th April, 2010, 07:58 PM
Is it a right manual for that chinese clones sold on Ebay right .http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mj-JbDPOtCNY3OYkZI0wr8g/80.jpg (javascript:;).
I'm really worried to connect my ECU because seller sent me manual for EVC BDM100 .

I'm getting lost in this matter .
Can anyone help me ?

entreprendre
10th May, 2010, 02:59 PM
Hi all,
I Bought one BDM100 clone from china and i want to read/write the Bosch EDC16. I've performed the DBM100-Bosch EDC16 connection as in the attached picture (http://www.entreprendre.ma/docs/BDM100-ECU-Connection.jpg), I've run the 555pro aplication but I got this error: MPC version error (E06): 0x00000000
Part number error (E05): 0x00000000
Power error or communication error (E14)
Can you please advise what is wrong.

thanks for you help

looly
13th May, 2010, 12:33 AM
Hi all,
I Bought one BDM100 clone from china and i want to read/write the Bosch EDC16. I've performed the DBM100-Bosch EDC16 connection as in the attached picture (http://www.entreprendre.ma/docs/BDM100-ECU-Connection.jpg), I've run the 555pro aplication but I got this error: MPC version error (E06): 0x00000000
Part number error (E05): 0x00000000
Power error or communication error (E14)
Can you please advise what is wrong.

thanks for you help.

Im getting the same error. Would somebody PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE upload a piccy showing the correct connection points for the edc16. The interface appears to be getting recognised but it is not communicating with the pcb. I've got a maxus ecu to clone and now getting desperate.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Tifon
13th May, 2010, 12:16 PM
Be careful, i have read that if you connect bad the cables you can kill the ecu. Some chinese clones have the cables inverted.

looly
14th May, 2010, 10:25 PM
Ok....is anyone able to confirm the correct connections for this ecu please. In bdm manual it says to use only the first 10 pads of bdm BUT on page 21 of the manual it says that pad arrangement is different on bosch ecu's and should be connected differentlyhttp://www.dashtune.com/images/products/BDM100.pdf

Im pretty certain that this is the way I need to connect. If it is, then do I need to use a seperate 12v power supply to pad 2 & 9?

Cheers guys.

xbyte
15th May, 2010, 12:07 AM
just take an old motherboard and desolder the usb port sockets, then solder it onto the ecu board. i have some hires pictures of it posted here http://www.ecuconnections.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1485

pins are connected 1 to 1 all the way, its really easy.

was not allowed to post such big resolution pictures here, so had to post link instead.

xbyte
15th May, 2010, 12:23 AM
Hi all,
I Bought one BDM100 clone from china and i want to read/write the Bosch EDC16. I've performed the DBM100-Bosch EDC16 connection as in the attached picture (http://www.entreprendre.ma/docs/BDM100-ECU-Connection.jpg), I've run the 555pro aplication but I got this error: MPC version error (E06): 0x00000000
Part number error (E05): 0x00000000
Power error or communication error (E14)
Can you please advise what is wrong.

thanks for you help

I would not have connected the bdm 100 that way, lets just hope you did`nt burn anything.

rsibiza
17th May, 2010, 06:13 AM
Dont wonder if you have burned ECU's using rubbish.

I use only my ori EVC BDM100,because i use it just as last possibility,so as emergency i wont use some non working rubbish.

Use original BDM with original pinheaders and holder,and you will never have any troubles

My oppinion:celticparty:

dod
26th May, 2010, 09:57 PM
yes, is true, chinese BDM100 had inverted orientation of pins...is turned 180?, so +12V is on oposite side, this is not so big problem because there is also +12V, but GND is on oposite side. I bought one EDC16 ecu for testing and now is burned :banghead: and it is copy of CMD or EVC or Dimsport BDm100?

rsibiza
27th May, 2010, 12:04 AM
yes, is true, chinese BDM100 had inverted orientation of pins...is turned 180?, so +12V is on oposite side, this is not so big problem because there is also +12V, but GND is on oposite side. I bought one EDC16 ecu for testing and now is burned :banghead: and it is copy of CMD or EVC or Dimsport BDm100?

most are dimsport clones,i suppose. I have never seen EVC clone,but i like my ori EVC

dod
27th May, 2010, 11:39 AM
ok, thanx and I have few questions here about inverted pinout of chinese clones, please check it... http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f104/here-bdm-100-update-65904/index3.html#post608661

dod
27th May, 2010, 11:02 PM
I did test on another ECU Bosch EDC16 but now with correct orientation and is working! :bounce: (but first ecu is dead) ... so here is correct connection of chinese BDM clones on the picture and DON'T NEED external power supply for ecu ...(power supply for BDM100 is needed)
http://www.volvoklub.sk/download/file.php?id=1879

0Hertz
1st June, 2010, 01:55 PM
I did test on another ECU Bosch EDC16 but now with correct orientation and is working! :bounce: (but first ecu is dead) ... so here is correct connection of chinese BDM clones on the picture and DON'T NEED external power supply for ecu ...(power supply for BDM100 is needed)
http://www.volvoklub.sk/download/file.php?id=1879

I have a Chinese clone too but the (BDM100) logo is printed from the opposite side of the box. Also the red cable is from the other side but the correct plug orientation is the same from the picture above.
I believe that the better way to check it is to check the ground point with a multimeter and be very careful because it is very easy to toast your ECU.

elosomaloso
2nd June, 2010, 04:10 AM
hi, Inew in this foro, how connect de bdm clon to edc16c+

0Hertz
7th June, 2010, 11:01 PM
hi, Inew in this foro, how connect de bdm clon to edc16c+

Check here.

http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/f104/here-bdm-100-update-65904/index3.html#post609096

donesko
12th June, 2010, 11:08 AM
I did test on another ECU Bosch EDC16 but now with correct orientation and is working! :bounce: (but first ecu is dead) ... so here is correct connection of chinese BDM clones on the picture and DON'T NEED external power supply for ecu ...(power supply for BDM100 is needed)
http://www.volvoklub.sk/download/file.php?id=1879

what about siemens ecu's, I got thoese 3 adapters with bdm (siemens, delphi, marelli) can they be used, where is pin no1?

freakshow
26th June, 2010, 12:46 PM
bdm programms most diesels

rsibiza
26th June, 2010, 01:00 PM
bdm programms most diesels

?what the...... ?

Most?diesel?

BDM do edc16 and Edc16+ siemens diesel med9...and it s all some marelli,delphi...

No edc15 diesel,etc no me7xx

bu not most diesel? Not thrue.

esccata
5th July, 2010, 07:38 PM
Thanks guys for info.

papalos_
8th July, 2010, 05:05 PM
I'm a little confused with BDM100 Chinese clone connections.

I have read 2 manuals for connections. The one comes from CMD Technologies srl (http://www.cmdtec.it/) and the other from EVC electronic - The Tools For Chiptuning (http://www.evc.de/).

What's is the right way to read ME9.7 ECU? The one says that i connect marelli interface and the other the BDM 141 probe...

Please help me!

Regards

rsibiza
8th July, 2010, 05:55 PM
I'm a little confused with BDM100 Chinese clone connections.

I have read 2 manuals for connections. The one comes from CMD Technologies srl (http://www.cmdtec.it/) and the other from EVC electronic - The Tools For Chiptuning (http://www.evc.de/).

What's is the right way to read ME9.7 ECU? The one says that i connect marelli interface and the other the BDM 141 probe...

Please help me!

Regards


EVC names theyr adapter BDM141 BDM142 BDM143...

others,like CMD and all Cloned BDM100 are names siemens probe,or marelli...

If you use other than EVC,dont use theyr manual,to not confuse yourself,but...EVC has best Manual for BDM...

papalos_
9th July, 2010, 12:18 AM
I've try the connection to ME9.7 with marelli adaptor(as it despribed in manual) but i get all the time the message "12VC or commuication error". I test the cable with both orientations but nothing. With power supply to ECU, to BDM both or not, the same error is still here.

The ECU is OK. I check it on the car.

Any suggestion?

rsibiza
9th July, 2010, 07:05 AM
I've try the connection to ME9.7 with marelli adaptor(as it despribed in manual) but i get all the time the message "12VC or commuication error". I test the cable with both orientations but nothing. With power supply to ECU, to BDM both or not, the same error is still here.

The ECU is OK. I check it on the car.

Any suggestion?



Which car is it? ME9xx seems to me be a bosch ecu?

Which BDM are u using? Some chines BDM are spi connector inverted,so wrong turned,and also may have vcc error,too high.

Anyway,if you burn your ecu with this shitty BDM your ecu still running in car,but unable to be programmed as SPI pad(bdm pad) to mcu is broken...

papalos_
9th July, 2010, 11:33 AM
Which car is it? ME9xx seems to me be a bosch ecu?

Which BDM are u using? Some chines BDM are spi connector inverted,so wrong turned,and also may have vcc error,too high.

Anyway,if you burn your ecu with this shitty BDM your ecu still running in car,but unable to be programmed as SPI pad(bdm pad) to mcu is broken...

The BMD100 is from here (http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.asp?id=1229&sortsid=3515&sorts=).

Yes, ECU is ME9.7 made by Bosch. It is for Mercedes-Benz SLK350. The manual for reading that ECU writes to use Marelli adaptor. Isn't that strange?

About SPI connector, Is there any way to check if it has right OR wrong orientaion?

Regards

rsibiza
9th July, 2010, 11:55 AM
The BMD100 is from here (http://www.ecutool.com/productshow.asp?id=1229&sortsid=3515&sorts=).

Yes, ECU is ME9.7 made by Bosch. It is for Mercedes-Benz SLK350. The manual for reading that ECU writes to use Marelli adaptor. Isn't that strange?

About SPI connector, Is there any way to check if it has right OR wrong orientaion?

Regards


I know some ecu s may have 2 pad layouts,soit may possible.

I never did mercdes slk,and did not check on the ME9xx from golf 5 gti....


Yes you can check orientation:
check the gnd pins,they are3 and you will find in evc documents,how they have to be turned

but normally you have also on bosch med9 the bosch pad ..evc 141 or 143,dont remeber which one and cant actually check...

Take a look,if you find it(does the marelli pad match to some pad on ecu?

papalos_
9th July, 2010, 09:47 PM
I know some ecu s may have 2 pad
Yes you can check orientation:
check the gnd pins,they are3 and you will find in evc documents,how they have to be turned


3 GND pins???

I found by polymeter only one GND pin as you can see in a yellow circle...

Is it right? Or the BDM100 is for the trash can?

papalos_
10th July, 2010, 02:33 AM
a. In the 1st picture we see the pin layout on original BDM

b. In the 2nd picture we see the GND in the yellow circle(I found it with multimeter) and in according with the 1st picture the PIN1 must be in the red circle. Right?

c. In the 3rd picture we see where is the red color on the cable.

d. In 4th picture we see the pin that matches to red cable in red rectangle.

Is the cable wrong?

Yes or No?

If yes, probably my used ME9.7 rest in pease or the BDM is dead.

Regards

papalos_
11th July, 2010, 03:50 PM
Someone to confirm my rationalisation?

exxl
12th July, 2010, 09:48 PM
do you hear the relay clicking when you click in software of 12v ON?

does the green led goes for one second on then off and you hear a relay?

papalos_
12th July, 2010, 11:39 PM
I REALLY NEDD YOUR HELP!

Please take a look in BDM100 manual for ME9.7 connection.

What do you think is the right connection, picture 1 or 2?

Regards.

papalos_
13th July, 2010, 03:44 AM
I did it!!!!

The right connection for Mercedes-Benz ME9.7 ECU is that on picture.

But I've a new(maybe) problem. The BDM100 recognize ECU as 043 BOSCH ME9+ Bmw instead of 032 BOSCH ME9.7 Mercedes.

Is that normal?

The size of:
a. M58BW016xB is 2.048KB
b. Mpc563/4 is 516KB


Regards

running_snail
22nd September, 2010, 11:38 PM
Hi. I just buy my CMD 1255 and when I connect to my pc the green light stays off. Drivers installation ok. When I connect 12V I can hear relay is working for 1 second and green led the same. IS IT NORMAL when device is not connect to ECU???? There is error "Interface Comunication Error ,+12Vcc power error or Communication error" . Do I have to connect device to ecu to comunicate pc with device??

cosmind
23rd September, 2010, 09:37 AM
same problem for me.
how about pin orientation?
marked pin is pin 10 or 1?

lexa-dok
23rd September, 2010, 09:20 PM
anyone understood with chinese clone

rappttor
24th September, 2010, 09:47 PM
it works only conected to the ecu...
my advise to you after a ecu kill :) check your bdm first, each pin just to be sure it is corect gnd, vcc etc

VTS_Tibi
6th September, 2011, 01:03 PM
a. In the 1st picture we see the pin layout on original BDM

b. In the 2nd picture we see the GND in the yellow circle(I found it with multimeter) and in according with the 1st picture the PIN1 must be in the red circle. Right?

c. In the 3rd picture we see where is the red color on the cable.

d. In 4th picture we see the pin that matches to red cable in red rectangle.

Is the cable wrong?

Yes or No?

If yes, probably my used ME9.7 rest in pease or the BDM is dead.

Regards

which one was pin1 at the end?

DiReCtX
10th September, 2011, 07:28 PM
Hello friends i have problem with marelli ECU MJET+ MJD 6F3.P4, I try connect with BDM100 but always "+12Vcc power error or Communication error" then I try with Xprogm but no response, ECU is connect to DC pin1-gnd, pin23,50 +12V and also normal working in car, so didn't damage, resistor 0om desolder when measure voltage on pin 9 VCC in BDM JTAG on ECU is 2,63V, I connect 5 wires from BDM100 and xprogm GND,HRESET,DSCK,DSDI,DSDO
Do you have any idea what is wrong ??

grinovsky
10th September, 2011, 07:54 PM
xprogm not read flash if you don't conect VFLS1 and VFLS0

DiReCtX
11th September, 2011, 01:27 AM
@grinovsky (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/193009-grinovsky/) I connect VFLS1 and VFLS0 when try xprogm with this scheme (http://www.jtagtest.com/pinouts/mpc_bdm)"siemens and marelli have same pinout as standard"

crisvenua2
15th September, 2011, 03:56 PM
I need pinout adapter bdm147 for dcm3.2 ssang yong citroen help please?

3abas27
29th October, 2011, 11:23 AM
xprogm not read flash if you don't conect VFLS1 and VFLS0

PLZ CONNECTION FOR PPD VAG 2.0D AND BDM 100

ISEE CONNECTION IN MANUAL BUT NOT UNDERSATAND

ANY HELP PLZ IHAVE CHINESE BDM 100

THE CAR IS FROM AUDI A3 WITH SIMENS VDO 2.0 YEAR 2007

LOOKINF FOR SOONEST REPLY

grinovsky
29th October, 2011, 11:29 AM
use the prob of BDM100 for siemens ECU, find gnd in BDM port in ecu and find gnd in prob of BDM100 and connect to ecu
what you don't understand?

mytunes
30th October, 2011, 08:45 AM
which one was pin1 at the end?

From what i think I just figured out the picture from A is the EVC version which has different pin out than the CMD or dimsport which most clones are based on.

So picture D would be correct where pin 5 with yellow circle is ground and red rectangle would be pin 1.

ahadi
2nd November, 2011, 03:45 PM
for Siemens pdd1.5 how to connect bdm100 directly without adapter.

3abas27
2nd November, 2011, 04:54 PM
for Siemens pdd1.5 how to connect bdm100 directly without adapter.

PLZ HOW TO CONNECT BDM 100 CHINESE MADE TO PPD VW 2.0

WITHOUT USING ADAPTER

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mytunes
4th November, 2011, 01:27 AM
So I verified that pin 6 is ground, and connected using spring pins to ed16 but am still getting:
Interface Comunication Error
+12Vcc power error or Communication error

Can hear relay clicking when I press the power ON button.

Any ideas?

grinovsky
4th November, 2011, 11:10 AM
be carfully,you can damage the ecu for ever
use prob siemens to connect to ecu
try to solder wires from prob siemens to bdm port on ecu

btr
4th November, 2011, 07:45 PM
So I verified that pin 6 is ground, and connected using spring pins to ed16 but am still getting:
Interface Comunication Error
+12Vcc power error or Communication error

Can hear relay clicking when I press the power ON button.

Any ideas?
And so it was me, try a more powerful (about 1 ampere) AC adapter, if you connect the BDM properly, no burned ECU.

mytunes
4th November, 2011, 08:31 PM
And so it was me, try a more powerful (about 1 ampere) AC adapter, if you connect the BDM properly, no burned ECU.
Thank you I will try that.

I did ohm out the ribon cable and I am getting continuity on pn 2,4,6,8,10, and 5. Nothing on the other ones. This is from the spring pins to the connetor on the bottom of the bdm. So mabe a bad ribbon cable, or a poor crimp on either end?

3abas27
15th November, 2011, 12:38 PM
be carfully,you can damage the ecu for ever
use prob siemens to connect to ecu
try to solder wires from prob siemens to bdm port on ecu

ok freind i solder directly wires from bdm to ecu siemens sid803a no problem without adapter i read it my clone one it is good

cezarycezary8
16th November, 2011, 08:24 AM
ok freind i solder directly wires from bdm to ecu siemens sid803a no problem without adapter i read it my clone one it is good

I did this same and broken ecu

3abas27
16th November, 2011, 09:52 AM
I did this same and broken ecu

freind if you respect shematic all will be ok ido it my self redaing no problem i power ecu like in manual but not power bdm interface

mytunes
16th November, 2011, 03:12 PM
Pretty sure my ribbon cable was bad awaiting a new one.
It didn't show any continuity on the pins on the one row but one.

Azzx
26th January, 2012, 11:53 PM
If someone is still wondering how to connect the BDM ask.

chris_e36_328
27th January, 2012, 02:50 AM
posted here in error. please delete

Theoros
23rd June, 2012, 01:51 PM
If someone is still wondering how to connect the BDM ask.
Could you show me the connection between BDM port and SID803 ecu pads?

Thanks

synkrotronic
23rd June, 2012, 07:44 PM
Hi
I buyed a Cmd bdm clone.
Instaled software,connected hardware, hear a relay turning on and led is always off.
I am not connecting to ecu.
Could you tell me the proper functioning of this tool?

Regards

Mario4044
23rd June, 2012, 08:23 PM
You have to be connected to the ECU, it will chip recognition and everything will happen. Remember that the Chinese clones have wires in mirror shape, measure the mass and power!!

synkrotronic
24th June, 2012, 02:08 PM
This one i think is correct.
The schematic wire connector is the same as EVC plug on interface?

VTS_Tibi
24th June, 2012, 02:41 PM
And don't forget, some ECUs require you to plug in the mains (AC) adaptor into the BDM tool! Otherwise it will not communicate with the ECU.

Also, the transistros inside your BDM can be faulty!

synkrotronic
24th June, 2012, 03:30 PM
I connected it ( AC ) to interface.
I seen in some posts that led will flash once and relay too...
On my interface the relay is always connected when plug in usb cable.

VTS_Tibi
24th June, 2012, 03:49 PM
When you click "read" an other relay has to click. Check the transistors...

synkrotronic
25th June, 2012, 04:55 PM
Could you indicate the pins connection on cmd bdm cable to connect on ecu.
Connecting usb and AC,must have 12 V on cable

Thanks in advance

AvechuchoAxel
1st July, 2013, 06:19 PM
I know this is an OLD post... but after looking closely to the picture and pin assignment... i just wondering how this connection was made because the arrangement of the pins doesn't match with the ME9.7 bdm pads. At the left side of the bdm pad there are just 2 pin contacts, while on the the right side are 3. Following Marelli adapter tracks it is clear that the assignment doesn't match the right side as painted in black on bdm pad. From the right side bottom up the 1st , 2nd and 4th are marked black. Marelli adapter doesn't have any track or connection to 1st and 4th.

Does anyone have an actual working connection? Is this for original BDM100 or is for BDM100 CLONE ?? Thanks!

matias
17th August, 2014, 08:30 PM
Hi all,
I have question,
I have originally BDM 100 from EVC and one EDC16. I solder to bdm contact and use manual from bdm. I solder all correctly. And still I have when I use BDMto Go sw "DSDO = GND" BDM not activated. POwer supply I have via big connector and power is 13.8V/30A.
Who please know wher can be problem? Pinout is good. And unit have response when I check this via VDSC on the desk.
Many thanks
Matias

matias
19th August, 2014, 06:49 PM
Problem solved.
Dead BDM port. Unit is in the recycle bin. :-)
So and I have now question. How I cane open file from BDMto Go in Winols for wiev maps and editing. When I open file I haven?t potential maps.
Many thanks for help.
BR Matias

datapage
2nd November, 2014, 12:28 PM
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=284234&stc=1

100% tested.

datapage
2nd November, 2014, 12:38 PM
someone tested read obd2 dtc mode in bench, not in the car OBD2, ecu no connects the scanner in car, ME9.7 SLK350 2010.
no info in car obd2
no info in bench obd2,
Ecu is dead? or ecu gateway?
can 2,5v A can2,5 B .
R/W in Bdm .