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smokinjoe
26th March, 2019, 12:28 AM
Hopefully someone can help me with a diagram of a good tested pinout to read this ecu using xprog m as I need to read full bdm mpc563 but i don't marelli adapter, thanks https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190325/102312f0a4b89cce596dc6b31445d4b4.jpg

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figani
26th March, 2019, 08:21 AM
I donīt know if itīs helpful for you, but with mpps clone you can read mpc, eeprom and m58bw016 full read and write...
also with ioterminal...
both without opening...
when you need pinout I can post it...

smokinjoe
26th March, 2019, 12:52 PM
Yes I noticed that mpps can do this job,I have China mpps v12 and tried it yesterday but with no success, didn't recognise ecu. I have bdm100 too and managed to read but wouldn't write,will try again today, thanks.

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figani
26th March, 2019, 02:35 PM
with mpps you need multiboot protocol...

dominik.m
26th March, 2019, 04:06 PM
When using BDM100, You must desolder 0 ohm resistor.
You have everything described in the attachment.
Regards

smokinjoe
26th March, 2019, 04:37 PM
Yes I have removed the resistor and when connected it doesn't autodetect the ecu so I have to select it manually from a dropdown list and it will read but not write so I'm thinking it's not capable of working with the mjd 603 but more suited to the earlier mjd 602 maybe?

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cristi_bv
26th March, 2019, 10:21 PM
When it reads the ecu check if it reads mpc,m58bw flash and eep.that ecu is working on car?

smokinjoe
26th March, 2019, 10:50 PM
No it doesn't id the flash and it only allows to read a single file, advanced options are greyed out.

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smokinjoe
26th March, 2019, 11:16 PM
I'm using cmd version 3.1.0 1255 software

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smokinjoe
27th March, 2019, 12:15 AM
This is the result of my read in single file modehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190326/16924d61bd626469e56ee7132ce7ae10.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190326/ee19c04d4f58e5e4e6f86300af5b8503.jpg

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Panathaole
27th March, 2019, 05:18 AM
Try to find ktag or galletto v54, reads & writes without any problem that ecu.....

cristi_bv
27th March, 2019, 12:58 PM
Ok,mpc can't acces flash,that is why you bdm can't identify ecu.if you want to fix it you must reball mpc.

smokinjoe
27th March, 2019, 02:08 PM
That makes sense, I will try with a different ecu[emoji106]
Ok,mpc can't acces flash,that is why you bdm can't identify ecu.if you want to fix it you must reball mpc.

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Panathaole
27th March, 2019, 05:40 PM
Yes I noticed that mpps can do this job,I have China mpps v12 and tried it yesterday but with no success, didn't recognise ecu. I have bdm100 too and managed to read but wouldn't write,will try again today, thanks.

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You have read the flash (2mb), the micro (513kb) and eeprom?

smokinjoe
27th March, 2019, 05:47 PM
Tried a different opel ecu and it read fine although I have to keep updating the driver for s/w but I did get a good read so as christi pointed out the processor on the original must have been damaged.

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smokinjoe
27th March, 2019, 06:55 PM
Ok I've managed to successfully read mpc,flash and eep from a good ecu but I have another problem as the replacement ecu that I'm trying to program is a brand new generic type which has no data stored so it doesn't auto i.d this unit and so won't allow me to program the mpc as all advanced options remain greyed out,is there any way around this issue?, thanks again.

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Panathaole
27th March, 2019, 09:25 PM
you have access to a ktag?

probably you can choose manually the protocol (85 or 101?) and try to write the ecu, even with different s/w version of that ecu taken with ktag...(in recovery mode), just to get an auto i.d and after you can write the correct files....

what is your original ecu id? (s/w number...)

cristi_bv
27th March, 2019, 10:20 PM
Post a picture with the label of orig ecu maybe i have a full bdm and you will need to copy just eep from old to new.

smokinjoe
27th March, 2019, 10:32 PM
Unfortunately no k-tag although I think I must invest shortly,here is a picture of original ecu, if it's only eeprom data I need I will manually transfer and try again, once again thanks to all for your support
you have access to a ktag?

probably you can choose manually the protocol (85 or 101?) and try to write the ecu, even with different s/w version of that ecu taken with ktag...(in recovery mode), just to get an auto i.d and after you can write the correct files....

what is your original ecu id? (s/w number...)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190327/a60172b4b472da39c33b3fe39b3d446a.jpg

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smokinjoe
28th March, 2019, 12:42 AM
Just to update, I switched eeprom to the new ecu to try to get Id but unfortunately no success, so without having k-tag I'll have to accept defeat on this project and leave it to the main dealer, thanks for all your input guys, much appreciated.

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cristi_bv
28th March, 2019, 07:12 AM
Make a full backup of the new ecu,and i will upload later today a full bdm, if you can upload orig read of mpc and eep from broken ecu.

smokinjoe
28th March, 2019, 11:12 AM
I didn't get to read the original damaged ecu due to the mpc being faulty but I did get a good full read from another identical mjd 603 with bdm100 which I was hoping to write to my new ecu and then adapt with opcom but because the new ecu is blank and doesn't autodetect I only have the option to write a single file as an assumed mpc family but this is unsuccessful so I don't think I can go any further without the use of k-tag or mpps v18,I hope I'm wrong on this but that's my thought at the moment?
Make a full backup of the new ecu,and i will upload later today a full bdm, if you can upload orig read of mpc and eep from broken ecu.

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Panathaole
28th March, 2019, 12:39 PM
I have no experience with cmd bdm100, but check if exist any recovery options to the s/w...

smokinjoe
28th March, 2019, 01:13 PM
I have no experience with cmd bdm100, but check if exist any recovery options to the s/w...It's the first time I've used it too but it doesn't appear to have a recovery option just single file read that reads full bdm, advanced option to read individual files, and an export option which I'm not sure of this function.

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cristi_bv
28th March, 2019, 01:19 PM
As long you choose the correct ecu it lets you write whole content bun not one at a time.so you must use "read ecu" to read one file or use import option to make single full bdm file.
Use this file it's a full bdm.

smokinjoe
28th March, 2019, 09:19 PM
could you please explain how to use the export feature to create a single file ,is the file you posted correct?,the file seems small in size?,thanks again,sorry for all the questions but i feel i'm getting closer to a result.

cristi_bv
28th March, 2019, 10:27 PM
That file is a full read from working ecu.export function splits a full bdm filein three files, mpc,flash and eep.import function create a full bdm from separate files.

smokinjoe
29th March, 2019, 01:51 AM
I get this error with your file in first picture, and second one is my bdm which starts to write but fails at 12% every time. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190329/cc0b0f87d4899deb71c2c27d569a7b30.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190329/a4f57f82f2f3dffe1204859c0feae83d.jpg

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cristi_bv
29th March, 2019, 01:02 PM
here is another read.did you remove resistor?

smokinjoe
29th March, 2019, 02:15 PM
here is another read.did you remove resistor?Ok I'll try this and thanks but I'm starting to think I may have s/w issues with bdm100 so might try to repair this too as I did try running dimsport soft and have read here that it can damage bdm S/w

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smokinjoe
13th April, 2019, 02:00 AM
Ok I purchased mpps v18 and read ecu great but I made an error of writing original St flash to the replacement spansion type and now the ecu is not recognised, is there any possibility of recovering this ecu or do I have to buy a new flash to solve/save this problem.

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Panathaole
13th April, 2019, 12:22 PM
Ok I purchased mpps v18 and read ecu great but I made an error of writing original St flash to the replacement spansion type and now the ecu is not recognised, is there any possibility of recovering this ecu or do I have to buy a new flash to solve/save this problem.

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Have you get the original files with mpps by multiboot?

If you connect mpps recognize the ecu?

If yes you can write back the flash, micro end eeprom... Always in multiboot....

smokinjoe
13th April, 2019, 11:07 PM
Have you get the original files with mpps by multiboot?

If you connect mpps recognize the ecu?

If yes you can write back the flash, micro end eeprom... Always in multiboot....I have the original files that I read but since writing the wrong flash I have no comms with the ecu

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Panathaole
14th April, 2019, 05:57 AM
When you connect mpps and choose id, have no connection with ecu?

smokinjoe
14th April, 2019, 02:58 PM
No connection to ecu and no I.d ecu seems to overheat now when powered and no i.d, I might try to swap the flash from a scrap unit and see.

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smokinjoe
14th April, 2019, 03:11 PM
I have another ecu which had slight water damage, communication now is ok but have 2 faults p0090,fuel pressure regulator and p0030 ho2 sensor,seems to be a +5v issue from ecu.?

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Panathaole
14th April, 2019, 03:48 PM
What flash you write?
You should have i.d. when connect the ecu with tool.... Eeprom is ok? That's weird...

I had written totally wrong file in that ecu with ktag.... (Bad probes pin contact...) And after that I totally recover the ecu....:hmmmm2:

smokinjoe
15th April, 2019, 11:13 PM
I'm starting to think my mpps interface is bad as I managed to write flash to another ecu by obd but using multiboot ecu I'd is ok but when trying to read I get the message sub function not supported or invalid format, any suggestions?

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Panathaole
16th April, 2019, 03:55 AM
I'm starting to think my mpps interface is bad as I managed to write flash to another ecu by obd but using multiboot ecu I'd is ok but when trying to read I get the message sub function not supported or invalid format, any suggestions?

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Take a ktag, if not recognize the ecu, choose manually the correct one and write back the correct files.... And that's it...

China mpps? I had buy one v21... I don't remember any difference with v18... Any way...
I read an eeprom, after 10 minutes, I try to write it back..... And guess... The tool stop working...dead...
I was lucky.... I didn't brick the ecu....

Try to buy from trusted source your tool...

Not from any cheap eBay seller....

The tools from China are not all the same.....

smokinjoe
16th April, 2019, 04:23 AM
It appears to be ok with the St flash but gives problems with spansion type,yes I rushed into buying it as it was the only one available in the uk which was the quickest delivery time for me , I'm sure it could be useful for some jobs but not all which leaves me dubious about buying k tag clone as I might have similar problems with a bad version,I suppose they're all a bit of a gamble

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nunopx
12th September, 2019, 12:16 PM
Thank you very much!!

Muxo
29th March, 2020, 07:43 PM
Hi!
Can anybody help me here. MJD 603 ECU. Uploaded flash thru obd with galletto v54 clone without troubles. After download, can't detect the ECU. Can somebodyhelp me with pin connection to the ECU on bench? Thanks in advance!

Panathaole
30th March, 2020, 05:50 AM
Hi!
Can anybody help me here. MJD 603 ECU. Uploaded flash thru obd with galletto v54 clone without troubles. After download, can't detect the ECU. Can somebodyhelp me with pin connection to the ECU on bench? Thanks in advance!

Search in forum, you find here that you ask for...

What tool you have for bdm?

CogTune
30th December, 2020, 11:29 AM
I donīt know if itīs helpful for you, but with mpps clone you can read mpc, eeprom and m58bw016 full read and write...
also with ioterminal...
both without opening...
when you need pinout I can post it...

Any chance you still have this available? Found one online but just want to confirm it's correct as it's really low quality looking.

figani
30th December, 2020, 11:31 AM
Any chance you still have this available? Found one online but just want to confirm it's correct as it's really low quality looking.

here you go....

TheSwanny
15th March, 2021, 05:44 PM
Hello Gents,

Hope you could help me.
I have MPPS to read/write but original ECU had upsy so i can't get original files.
I swapped EEPROM with hot air solder help so car starts with new ECU, unfortunately its wrong soft.

I wonder if someone could have original files for Z13DTH please.

Currently i have Z13DTJ 55198930 installed, but can throw it here in few days.

Files needed for Corsa D 2007
55198931 CJ
MJD 603.s1/HW03A/3137-S151
Z13DTH MT

rafal
15th March, 2021, 05:46 PM
..............................

TheSwanny
15th March, 2021, 05:57 PM
Hope this works, love you already!

macmateusz
16th March, 2021, 01:59 PM
You have full backup here

TheSwanny
17th March, 2021, 05:52 PM
Password required for file. Thanks

macmateusz
17th March, 2021, 10:51 PM
Here you have one more time Pass pm

macmateusz
17th March, 2021, 10:58 PM
an even better solution will be if you can read both eeproms, then I will send you the pins and you will only need Op-com to adapt

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 06:16 PM
I had both eeproms on bench for cide reading so i have the files, will attach later today. I connected with mpps and got all files read from ecu ok with no problems. As soon as i tried to write one of them, it went to 100% and probably connection died or something but now basically ecu is not recognised. Will it work if i try on bench to connect and reinstall with mpps? If so maybe someone have or remember which pin to connect to what please.

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 06:31 PM
Here are the both EEPROM files i prommised.
DTH is original ECU
DTJ is the one i bought and installed but with DTH EEPROM soldered.

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 06:32 PM
Here we go

tango
18th March, 2021, 07:17 PM
dth pin = 2612
dtj pin = 7069

tango
18th March, 2021, 07:19 PM
fot this ecu to work in the dth car you must flash the mpc and flash with the files from dth ecu or files from same type ecu with same numbers
your eeprom from dth holds cars pin for immo and cars engines injector codes

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 07:22 PM
fot this ecu to work in the dth car you must flash the mpc and flash with the files from dth ecu or files from same type ecu with same numbers
your eeprom from dth holds cars pin for immo and cars engines injector codes

I tried to flash Micro through CAN line from files which are provided but unfortunately now my ECU cannot be detected even on bench. I am frustrated and confused.

tango
18th March, 2021, 07:31 PM
you flashed how?
first you must flash the flash file then mpc file
then should work
flash only with bdm now not mpps
or you could try with mpps using cable on bench but if no id then you need bdm (bdm100,fgtech or ktag)

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 07:42 PM
you flashed how?
first you must flash the flash file then mpc file
then should work
flash only with bdm now not mpps
or you could try with mpps using cable on bench but if no id then you need bdm (bdm100,fgtech or ktag)


Newb mistake i guess.
Will i need remove resistor with bdm100 or it can go directly on pins?
I guess no other way than splitting it in half again:nonchalance:

Can i do anything with XGecu pro TL866 II Plus? It is a little bit advanced but maybe somehow i can connect to pins with that.

macmateusz
18th March, 2021, 08:49 PM
You can write eeprom in this driver only with the UPA programmer, etc., because you need to change the settings so that it can be saved back. If you did not write the eeprom it will be ok.

macmateusz
18th March, 2021, 08:54 PM
in this situation, only Op Com saves you, if you did not write the other eeprom will be ok. and if you wrote it too late.

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 09:14 PM
I ordered BDM100 now, should be soon with me.
So just to confirm - first i do FLASH, then i can do MICRO or EEPROM if needed?

tango
18th March, 2021, 09:44 PM
from what i read your original ecu was the dth ?
if yes and you have said you have put the eprom from original ecu to new ecu then nothing is needed to do to this because its the proper eprom from the car already
only thing that can save you now tho because you cant read or id through wiring to pins is bdm
so the files you have which are for the original ecu numbers, you need to program first flash then mpc
this is all
then test on car

tango
18th March, 2021, 09:46 PM
opcom will not save you
opcom can only do eprom adjustments what can save you is tech2 with globaltis and sps programing
but you dont have this so bdm is only other option

macmateusz
18th March, 2021, 10:17 PM
in Corsa D only Op-com tech will not help you, it is a very simple job. Take the eeprom that you did not write to solder to the ECU. Write what I sent you without eeprom and if you have Op-com, write to me on a private one, I will tell you how to do it step by step.

macmateusz
18th March, 2021, 10:19 PM
Ideally you would use the Ktag to write if you don't have BDM100 it will be ok. You have to do it on the table.

TheSwanny
18th March, 2021, 11:05 PM
Thanks for help. I will try.

Original idea just to swap eeprom would be ok, but after testing car felt really weak because power of the car is reduced from 90bhp to 75bhp ish and it is struggling so ideal plan was to reflash ecu (due to DTJ is reduced power)
Unfortunately i did it wrong so now i have to do it with BDM to change it to DTH. Hope it will become alive again.

tango
19th March, 2021, 01:12 AM
it will when you do it right :)

TheSwanny
24th March, 2021, 04:49 PM
Guys, its me again.

I received BDM today (china clone obviously), connected on its own but no green light on device, connected to ECU with power supply but still no luck.
Any idea? Dodgy device?

tango
24th March, 2021, 07:16 PM
never seen china bdm so cant help with that sorry

cristi_bv
24th March, 2021, 08:49 PM
For marelli ecu you dont need to apply power to interface,but you must apply power to ecu.

TheSwanny
27th March, 2021, 04:47 PM
I got back with FGTech, connected OK.
When i am trying to write external flash it throws me question of "CHK COMPUTED IN WRITING -- DO YOU WANT TO CORRECT IT?" Should i select Yes or No?
And what does that mean?

rafal
27th March, 2021, 05:52 PM
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/389785-Fgtech-galletto-checksum-computed-in-writing-question

TheSwanny
27th March, 2021, 06:32 PM
Guys, cant thank you enough for help.
Corsa is alive and works like a swiss clock!
Galletto worked like charm, the rest of rubish going in the bin.

Thank you for your help!

TheSwanny
5th April, 2021, 11:05 AM
Since i got involved in all this fun and games i have few questions on top what i did, if someone could answer that would be brilliant.

So if my original ECU was MJD 603.s1 what other ECUs i can use, with help of Galletto or KTag of course.
Would whole ECU family would work like MJD 6J0, 6JF, 602, 603, 6F3?

tango
5th April, 2021, 02:21 PM
603 ecus and sometimes with very good luck maybe 602
but i wouldnt try anyother than same hardware 603

Panathaole
5th April, 2021, 02:47 PM
no luck, only same hw need.....

teerak2uk
5th April, 2021, 08:54 PM
here you go....

what pinout are people using for 603 image seems to have
2 kline
2 can low
2 can hi
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tango
6th April, 2021, 02:35 PM
depends which you need one set is for opel and other is for fiat

teerak2uk
6th April, 2021, 04:13 PM
depends which you need one set is for opel and other is for fiatWas for opel

Panathaole
6th April, 2021, 09:07 PM
is the same, and usually 6o3 & 6f3 are CAN, but not always.... you can read full by OBD but need writes in BDM....

musta2007
27th October, 2021, 07:07 AM
pass please

figani
27th October, 2021, 11:29 AM
pass please


pass for what...?