ID 46 PEUGEOT 207

[angmar]

Hello everyone, I'm in trouble with a 207 peugeot.
The owner of the car disarmed the remote control and lost the id46 chip,
the remote control is working perfectly but it does not start, it will be possible to program another chip without losing the operation of the remote control? I have the pincode, dump of the bsi and id of the key extracted from the file, but I am missing the other data to write in the transpoder.
Can someone help me solve this problem?

[Zmann]

Post the true original BSI dump then we can take a look. by the remote type, does the diag tool say the car is 206+ ?

[lion0304]

THis remote is 206, 206+ not for 207.

If you put new 7936 and program, remote will stop working.

[Zmann]

On some market, if not all, the pre-CAN 207's are actually 206+.

[angmar]

Si , este modelo es asi

[angmar]

[QUOTE = Zmann; 3566803] En algunos mercados, si no todos, los 207 anteriores a CAN son en realidad 206 +.

Pin is WK5X

[rola1971]

[QUOTE = Zmann; 3566803] En algunos mercados, si no todos, los 207 anteriores a CAN son en realidad 206 +.

Pin is WK5X

in english please

[mimodiag]

BSI 206+ IS SIEMENS

BSI207 IS VALEO

[angmar]

BSI 206+ IS SIEMENS

BSI207 IS VALEOSiemens

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[Zmann]

I've made some marking and guide for how to on your BSI dump image.

Unfortunately my small experiment was incomplete due to at that time I was focusing on the remote ID and not much on transponder IDE (206 car but same BSI as yours). But I am sure you can follow and go futher without problem.

PSA cars allow maximum 5 keys to be programmed. So the data addresses on BSI eep are reserved for those keys as 5 + 5 rooms, first 5 are for remote ID and the rest 5 for transponder IDE and they are always work as pair. No matter the programmed keys were just plain transponders or remote type or mix of both, each of the key will occupy 1 + 1 data room on eep always. For less than 5 key car BSI leaves those room as blank and will never assign for any other purpose.

some other info...remote ID is 3 byte long but you have no problem on this area. Transponder ID used on BSI is 4 byte long and must be read as xx xx xx 1x and organise reversely (byte basis) from seeing on transponder tool (not to confuse with decrypt). You know all now and up to you to play with on crypt mode or decrypt mode. Every time you begin new key(s) programming they will always start from occupying 1st + 1st rooms. All data in old 5 + 5 rooms are automatically erased when you just start, so keep the old dump in safe place for compare. Please update.

[angmar]

I've made some marking and guide for how to on your BSI dump image.

Unfortunately my small experiment was incomplete due to at that time I was focusing on the remote ID and not much on transponder IDE (206 car but same BSI as yours). But I am sure you can follow and go futher without problem.

PSA cars allow maximum 5 keys to be programmed. So the data addresses on BSI eep are reserved for those keys as 5 + 5 rooms, first 5 are for remote ID and the rest 5 for transponder IDE and they are always work as pair. No matter the programmed keys were just plain transponders or remote type or mix of both, each of the key will occupy 1 + 1 data room on eep always. For less than 5 key car BSI leaves those room as blank and will never assign for any other purpose.

some other info...remote ID is 3 byte long but you have no problem on this area. Transponder ID used on BSI is 4 byte long and must be read as xx xx xx 1x and organise reversely (byte basis) from seeing on transponder tool (not to confuse with decrypt). You know all now and up to you to play with on crypt mode or decrypt mode. Every time you begin new key(s) programming they will always start from occupying 1st + 1st rooms. All data in old 5 + 5 rooms are automatically erased when you just start, so keep the old dump in safe place for compare. Please update.Thank you friend

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[lion0304]

I've made some marking and guide for how to on your BSI dump image.

Unfortunately my small experiment was incomplete due to at that time I was focusing on the remote ID and not much on transponder IDE (206 car but same BSI as yours). But I am sure you can follow and go futher without problem.

PSA cars allow maximum 5 keys to be programmed. So the data addresses on BSI eep are reserved for those keys as 5 + 5 rooms, first 5 are for remote ID and the rest 5 for transponder IDE and they are always work as pair. No matter the programmed keys were just plain transponders or remote type or mix of both, each of the key will occupy 1 + 1 data room on eep always. For less than 5 key car BSI leaves those room as blank and will never assign for any other purpose.

some other info...remote ID is 3 byte long but you have no problem on this area. Transponder ID used on BSI is 4 byte long and must be read as xx xx xx 1x and organise reversely (byte basis) from seeing on transponder tool (not to confuse with decrypt). You know all now and up to you to play with on crypt mode or decrypt mode. Every time you begin new key(s) programming they will always start from occupying 1st + 1st rooms. All data in old 5 + 5 rooms are automatically erased when you just start, so keep the old dump in safe place for compare. Please update.


I don't know what raison to make all these work for recover remote 206+.

Chinese 206 work perfect for less than 7$. You can say it to learn but the time you spend on it is very very cheap.

So for me, i use my time to learn something more. That it my point.

[Zmann]

I don't know what raison to make all these work for recover remote 206+.

Chinese 206 work perfect for less than 7$. You can say it to learn but the time you spend on it is very very cheap.

So for me, i use my time to learn something more. That it my point.

That's your point.

And now you realise that it's 206+ and not 207, that's the basic thing too (to learn).

I am sure there are some other people are willing to learn this apart from you!

[lion0304]

That's your point.

And now you realise that it's 206+ and not 207, that's the basic thing too (to learn).

I am sure there are some other people are willing to learn this apart from you!

Where do you see i realised it's not for 207? Read again my first comment: It's for 206, 206+, not for 207.

207 is square remote CE0536 ASK.

[Zmann]

Where do you see i realised it's not for 207? Read again my first comment: It's for 206, 206+, not for 207.

207 is square remote CE0536 ASK.

Oh sorry, I should say " and now you should realise and learning that some car which marked as 207 using this type of remote too"

p.s. CE0523 works well too as long it's ASK.

[lion0304]

Oh sorry, I should say " and now you should realise and learning that some car which marked as 207 using this type of remote too"

p.s. CE0523 works well too as long it's ASK.

CE0523 ASK use usual for C4 C5 407.

With FSK, you can mixe 0523 or 0536, but never see here or somewhere else 0523 can use for 0536 in ASK.

If you succes, happy for you. But in this forum, many report lost remote when use incorrect PSA remotes key.

I learn in my interess and with what i'm doing. And here in my country, never see yet 207 use other than square remote key CE0536.

[Zmann]

CE0523 ASK use usual for C4 C5 407.

With FSK, you can mixe 0523 or 0536, but never see here or somewhere else 0523 can use for 0536 in ASK.

If you succes, happy for you. But in this forum, many report lost remote when use incorrect PSA remotes key.

I learn in my interess and with what i'm doing. And here in my country, never see yet 207 use other than square remote key CE0536.

Look like my skill on PSA remotes is underrated :) :)

No surprise! that you were not aware that early 207 CAN cars delivered with CE0523 (PCB no. E25CI009 by Delphi, 2-button on 207 and 3-button on 207cc) and superseded by CE0536 - JCI some time later.

Restrictions of using by CE0523/CE0536 info are outdated now but you still stick on it. http://www.honrow.com/gallery-86.html and many more are selling those remote boards with no more mentioning by such of the type.

[RFRemotes]

@angmar (https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/member.php/78985-angmar)
I think the easiest way for you will be to find remote pcb paired with transponder of type DB (transponder USER2 page must read 0DBAFFFF) or PN:6554YV
If you can read hopping code as described in thread Peugeot/citroen reusing old remotes... blabla I can help you to reuse the one you have.

[zztopalma]

hi hello Zmann can you send me the pass? thanks!