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gomarota
19th December, 2009, 09:18 AM
Watch in the third post for see the new problem...




Hello, i got vag com 311, vag com 805, and commander 1.4.

I need to match keys, but its impossible, i dont know why, when i go to 17 and put login 0XXXX (XXXX is the pin code) it says, "dropped due to..." and i cannot match my key.

And for remote matching i go to 46 and in adaptation, channel 1 , i cannot match neither.

Some months ago i matched and all goes right, anyone can help me?

Thanks!

PD: i dont want to kill im*o, i only want to match keys

Ashraf6119
19th December, 2009, 11:53 AM
Hi

1) Make sure your Pin Code is right.
2) Also the Transponder Chip is the right one for this model.


HTH

Ash

gomarota
19th December, 2009, 01:07 PM
The pin code and transponder are ok.

The solution is erase DTCs from 17, 19 , 1 with vw tool and match keys with vag 303.

Now i have other question that upset me.

I got two keys.

older: keyblade is fixed
newer: keyblade is movable with a button

I can match perfectly with older.

When i try to match with newer the im*o light doesnt turn off, and i cannot match it.

I tried to put the transponder of the older inside the case of the newer, but the same occurs.

Anyone can help me?

Thanks mates!

maaxxyy
19th December, 2009, 01:29 PM
Have you made sure the coding cycle has counted down to zero?
Every time a key is wrongly coded, a wait time is started. Even with the correct security code the key will not match until the wait time has reset.

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Group 024
[Go!]
Any numbers displayed in fields 1-4 represent the time in minutes that must be counted down before the Immobilizer is unlocked. If the fields are all zero, skip to step 6. If the Immobilizer is locked:
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Do not switch off the ignition! Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the display in Group 024

gomarota
19th December, 2009, 02:10 PM
Have you made sure the coding cycle has counted down to zero?
Every time a key is wrongly coded, a wait time is started. Even with the correct security code the key will not match until the wait time has reset.

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Group 024
[Go!]
Any numbers displayed in fields 1-4 represent the time in minutes that must be counted down before the im*obilizer is unlocked. If the fields are all zero, skip to step 6. If the im*obilizer is locked:
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Do not switch off the ignition! Allow the car to sit for AT LEAST the number of minutes that were indicated by the display in Group 024

Hello, i search what do you tell me and i found this:

4.
You can check to make sure a key has the correct electronics in it so that it can be matched to the Immobilizer by:
[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Meas. Blocks - 08]
Group 022
[Go!]
The value in field 3 must be 1. If value is not 1, the key is not capable of being adapted to Immobilizer. You can check each key in this manner.




older key: 1
newer key: 0


Anyone can tell me why this key is not capable of being adapted to immo? i dont understand it... it only need the transponder to work isnt it?

maaxxyy
19th December, 2009, 05:26 PM
try this -

Immo-3 knows your car's VIN. Access 17-Instruments (or separate 25-Immobilizer on vehicles that are set up that way) and look at the first "Extra" field.

If you see something like: "Immo-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696" You've got Immo-2 (or maybe even Immo-1 in earlier non-US models).

If you see something like "WVZKB58001H231169 VWZ7Z0W0648696" You've got
Immo-3. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the Immo-ID.



if you have immo 3, only new transponder keys can be coded!
immo 1+2 can code in used keys.

gomarota
19th December, 2009, 06:12 PM
try this -

im*o-3 knows your car's VIN. Access 17-Instruments (or separate 25-im*obilizer on vehicles that are set up that way) and look at the first "Extra" field.

If you see something like: "im*o-ID VWZ7Z0W0648696" You've got im*o-2 (or maybe even im*o-1 in earlier non-US models).

If you see something like "WVZKB58001H231169 VWZ7Z0W0648696" You've got
im*o-3. The first 17-digit string is the VIN. The second 14-digit string in the im*o-ID.



if you have im*o 3, only new transponder keys can be coded!
im*o 1+2 can code in used keys.

yes, im sure i got immo3, but i extract the transponder from old key and put in new key, but it doesnt work.

maaxxyy
19th December, 2009, 06:57 PM
are you using new or used keys?

gomarota
19th December, 2009, 08:01 PM
are you using new or used keys?

are used keys

maaxxyy
21st December, 2009, 01:24 AM
if you have immo 3 used keys cannot be programmed