View Full Version : Fiat Bravo 2009 - access denied with pin to learn key?? dump
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 03:00 PM
hi all,
today i had Fiat Bravo, 2009 - ID48 TP Marelli system AKL
I connected MVP, read pre code, pre code dealer key all OK
Read pin as 65674
I went to program key, typed pin, "ACCESS DENIED"
So i used FVDI,, i dumped the eeprom 95C160, loaded dump into transponder maker and verified pin was 65674.
Tried to use Key learning on FVDI, after inserting pin and no, of keys to learn, got subsystem ERROR (i guess because not accepting it)
I enclosed the file FVDI dumped for me, can anyone VERIFY the pin,, and also,, could anyone insert my TP data into this dump, so i can load it back to the car?
Is there any reason why access denied is coming,, because even to learn a remote, it required the pin, i also get access denied message,
Tried numerous battery resets.
stoyanov
23rd May, 2019, 03:21 PM
Pin code 65674 is good.
autochei
23rd May, 2019, 03:21 PM
what transponder use
maybe wrong sistem u choice
thys car have mm bsi but can be 2 different sistem id 48 and id 46
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 03:25 PM
Hi, it is definitly ID48,
I also try to get pre code for the ID46 system, it showed no precode data and a pin of 77777 which is wrong.
Precode data was correct 24 digit ID48 transponder
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 03:26 PM
Is there possibility to add TP data from my precoded ID48 TP into the dump i have uploaded so that i can write it back to car, and start it?
Then i am just stuck with remote learn which also needs PIN Code and also gave me access denied :(
Jimalex
23rd May, 2019, 04:34 PM
Did you reset battery after pin and precode read?
And for remote after coding you must reset battery again.
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 04:41 PM
Yes i did, i reset it every step when it prompted.
Access denied was all i ever got with either programming key, or programming remote, after entering pin code.
rokibar
23rd May, 2019, 05:04 PM
Yes i did, i reset it every step when it prompted.
Access denied was all i ever got with either programming key, or programming remote, after entering pin code.
send transponder data. it should not be hard.
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 05:10 PM
Here is photo of Dealer Prepared ID48 TP which MVP created,, hope its sufficient?
rokibar
23rd May, 2019, 06:27 PM
hm. the more difficult i thought. i can write id transponder only. without sinhro bytes do not serve enything. you have produce transponder from dump with some key maker and rewrite new created dump from maker for start car as first. next you can same key reprogramming with diagnostic device if ou need remote control. sorry, maybe excepted more but ats all from me.
sdnatlst
23rd May, 2019, 06:48 PM
So writing ID transponder into the dump only would not work?
remote control is seperate program on these id48 remote, do not worry about remote control.
rokibar
24th May, 2019, 06:52 AM
So writing ID transponder into the dump only would not work?
remote control is seperate program on these id48 remote, do not worry about remote control.
key maker will write your transponder in dump at right way.
sdnatlst
24th May, 2019, 08:41 AM
Damn OK, thanks!
i will have to tell customer i cannot complete job because i was supposed to go back later today, was hoping someone could put TP info into the dump :(
no idea why it keeps saying ACCESS Denied after pin though, should be a simply job
sdnatlst
24th May, 2019, 04:23 PM
hi all, can anyone check this new DUMP? i want to see if it now has 3 registered keys?, i managed to use FVDI to add the dealer prepped TP to the dump i had, want to make sure it is funcitonal before travelling back to the job
rokibar
24th May, 2019, 05:14 PM
hi all, can anyone check this new DUMP? i want to see if it now has 3 registered keys?, i managed to use FVDI to add the dealer prepped TP to the dump i had, want to make sure it is funcitonal before travelling back to the job
all ok, key 3 added. go a had mate.
simaservis1108
26th May, 2019, 10:53 AM
Next time wait 15 minutes with ignition ON to be able to program key.In all key lost situations Fiats tend to have this procedure.
sdnatlst
26th May, 2019, 12:09 PM
thanks, i am going back tuesday to try the dump
if not work i will wait 15mins with igniton on and try the pin code
although i have done many fiat 500 AKL and never had to do that procedure before? thanks
simaservis1108
26th May, 2019, 10:48 PM
Fiat 500 = Delphi Body
Fiat Bravo = Magneti Marelli Body
sdnatlst
28th May, 2019, 01:53 PM
Well today i went to car, uploaded my new dump, removed battery, and put back on - success it started
i waited 15minutes with key igniton ON,, then tried to remote program with PIN code, ACCESS DENIED on MVP PRO after pin insert - still
i even tried MultiECUSCAN which is fiat diagnostic tool, paid version, says ACCESS DENIED before even asking for pin on this one
so looks like this car is just fully locked down for any PIN access jobs, remote, key learn, etc etc.
i told customer this and got paid. weird car
Manta1600
28th May, 2019, 02:46 PM
Well today i went to car, uploaded my new dump, removed battery, and put back on - success it started
i waited 15minutes with key igniton ON,, then tried to remote program with PIN code, ACCESS DENIED on MVP PRO after pin insert - still
i even tried MultiECUSCAN which is fiat diagnostic tool, paid version, says ACCESS DENIED before even asking for pin on this one
so looks like this car is just fully locked down for any PIN access jobs, remote, key learn, etc etc.
i told customer this and got paid. weird car
take a look behaind the OBD port maybe is blocker instaled
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