Audi A1 cluster

[paulsta]

Does anyone know the pinout for the dash so i can power it up on my bench an work on the immo.

2011 A1 cluster

Many thanks

:)

[paulsta]

Anyone help?

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[drugowaz]

You probably will not launch it. Assuch clusters a3 a1 need,gateway,bcm etc. For wake up

[paulsta]

You probably will not launch it. Assuch clusters a3 a1 need,gateway,bcm etc. For wake upIs it not possible to add a key on the bench without this?


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[drugowaz]

No ,a3 and pribably im sure 99% a1 clusters need full setup to wake it up.
Need special can message from gateway.

[qeso705]

For which reason they need Wake up?

[exe123]

They dont have KL15 dor wakeup via 12V.
Wakeup via CAN only!
Same like A3, Q3

[K1nd3r]

no need any gateway, 100%

[paulsta]

no need any gateway, 100%I just want to do this dash on the bench and not in the car,
Can I do this?

Cheers

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[qeso705]

In general yes. Only issue when you have working key it will be as akl.

[paulsta]

In general yes. Only issue when you have working key it will be as akl.This is akl, if I do this in the car do I just need to take note of the abs coding?

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[qeso705]

Yes. But why you want do it on bench like other nec-s? Only diffrence that dash will be dark and you cant add transponder via coil on bench. But even when you use coil learning enough will be put dash back to car and turn ign on with new transponder/key.

[paulsta]

Yes. But why you want do it on bench like other nec-s? Only diffrence that dash will be dark and you cant add transponder via coil on bench. But even when you use coil learning enough will be put dash back to car and turn ign on with new transponder/key.So better just put eeprom in service mode and do rest at car [emoji16]

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[qeso705]

Which tools you have?

[paulsta]

Which tools you have?Vvdi2

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[qeso705]

Preparat eeprom, acess clusters on bench, make dealer key and add to immo. For remote repat learn procedure with already working Key to avoid abs coding lost.

[paulsta]

Preparat eeprom, acess clusters on bench, make dealer key and add to immo. For remote repat learn procedure with already working Key to avoid abs coding lost.


If abs coding is lost can it be sorted out?

[qeso705]

Many things can be sorted but why to make live more complicated?

[paulsta]

Many things can be sorted but why to make live more complicated?It says Def on the dash after adding key, I'm assuming it lost abs coding?

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[qeso705]

Its mean more likely that something with eeprom is wrong. Did you choose on vvdi that it is akl? When no did you write orginal eeprom backup?

[paulsta]

Its mean more likely that something with eeprom is wrong. Did you choose on vvdi that it is akl? When no did you write orginal eeprom backup?I loaded dump then i selected make service mode eeprom,
I wrote this to the prom and put back on the PCB,
Then wrote original back using vvdi2, read the conf, added key.
I added second key using the cars own reader with cluster connected

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[qeso705]

Which errors are present?

[paulsta]

Which errors are present?


sorry for the delay,

It shows abs coding is missing with vcds

codes 01317 and 01402

[qeso705]

Why you didnt follow advices? Its on story coding? Probably fastest will be to do it via odis online.

[paulsta]

Why you didnt follow advices? Its on story coding? Probably fastest will be to do it via odis online.Is it stored in the original eeprom?

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[qeso705]

Is it stored in the original eeprom?

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Did you stored orginal coding before? When you prepare e2 then vin change in immo and when other modules see vin mismatch they delete coding as side effect.

[paulsta]

Did you stored orginal coding before? When you prepare e2 then vin change in immo and when other modules see vin mismatch they delete coding as side effect.I only have the original eeprom dump before I made service mode

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[fred77]

Sounds like car must go to dealership now

- in future copy abs coding before hand just-in-case

[super jumbe]

I think abs coding numbers are in the read boot, vvds can code abs.

[paulsta]

I think abs coding numbers are in the read boot, vvds can code abs.

Can you explain read boot?

cheers

[urcarpc]

I use obdstar, i made backup of abs coding, then remove cluster and read eeprom(24c64) via bench, then i created service config and write to eeprom. I put cluster back in car and try writing original immo dump, but car asking for valid key. Do i need a virgin id48 chip or audi precoded chip?

[urcarpc]

Got it working. The procedure goes as followed:

Using OBDSTAR 300X

Put ignition on with new key
Make backup of abs code
Remove speedo(make sure key is still in ignition, on position)
Read 24c64 eeprom chip using clip (might need to read full dump under "eeprom" tab) and save it as orig.bin
Create service file using full dump and write to eeprom via clip
Reinstall speedo
Write full dump(orig.bin) via obd
Read immo data and save
Finally make oem key

Now you should have a working key. If not, use 'add key' option. You might need to follow this procedure straight after making oem key (while ignition is still on from that session).

In all this procedure the ignition must remain in 'on' position, despite taking speedo out, otherwise it wont work.