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IceCoffee
30th October, 2019, 12:53 AM
UPDATED PLEASE SEE POST 4

There have been many requests in this forum for help with this type of ECU, but it seems there has been little help. I am going to share with you what I did. It is not perfect but it does work. In the end I have lost my speed limiter function (although cruise control still works) if anyone knows how to turn it back on, please share.
*EDIT This is no longer true, see post 4 to enable Cruise Control/Speed Limiter in any Valeo V40*


Tools
RenOlink 1.72
CH341A USB PIC programmer

I purchased an ECU kit from eBay. The important parts were Valeo V40 ECU, BCM/UCH, Steering Lock (ESCL) It also came with a key card, but ultimately I paired it with the original Key cards that came with my vehicle making the supplied key card useless.

Take note the BCM/UCH from the Megane and Scenic are not interchangeable, The front windscreen wipers operate in completely different ways AFAIK there is no way to correct one type to be the other, if you get it wrong YOU WILL HAVE NO FRONT WIPERS.

1) The steering lock. This has to be disengaged or you will not be able to remove it from the car. (The steering lock passes through the securing bolt) additionally the securing bolt has an "opposite" or "Left hand " thread, meaning you have to turn it CLOCKWISE to UNDO the bolt

There is a PIC 24c04 inside. you can Virgin it just by using the USB Pic progger to fill it with "FF" I used the clip on programming attachment so I didn't have to desolder the chip. Unfortunately unlike the Megane 2 the BCM will not automatically rejoin a virgin steering lock, it has to be re-married to the BCM/UCH. This can be done with RenOlink, more on that later. Be careful whilst disassembling the steering lock, as it has an anti tamper mechanism, if you trigger it, it will drive a spring loaded piston into the steering lock mechanism to permanently jam it. See the attached picture for more info

2) ECU

Open your ECU and find the 95640 chip, if you remove the back lid without removing the main board it will be right in front of you. Fill the 95640 with "FF" until memory address 0x17CF your ECU will show as virgin (Although you may also loose Speed Limiter as I did) *EDIT I Didn't lose speed limiter, I just hadn't enabled it see post 4*. Don't forget that your BCM/UCH (immobiliser) will reject a Virgin engine ECU unless it is also in a Virgin state This can be done with RenOlink, more on that later.

Regarding the programmer.

I used my USB CH341A programmer same as for the steering lock. It is not meant to be able to program this kind of chip but it worked ok for me.


There are people on the net saying you need to fit the 95640 chip backwards when using a CH341A programmer, but I looked at the datasheet for the 95640 and the 25640 (a chip that the CH341A can program) and found the pin out to be exactly the same (at least for the SOP8 package I was working with).


I used my clip on programming adapter, I connected it as normal, namely pin 1 of the clip to pin 1 of the chip (as per data sheet) I did not modify the programmer from 3.3V to 5V, as suggested elsewhere on the internet because although the chip can take up to 5.5V the datasheet indicates it can operate as low as 2.5V.


I connected the other end of the clip-on to the programmer in the correct and normal way to the 25xxx section of the zif socket on the CH341A programmer.


On the software side I used CH341A programmer version 1.29 and set the chip type as 25640 5V.


I had no problem with read, but a couple of issues with write most notably modifying individual lines of hex data.


To make it work I


1) I read and saved the chip to a bin file
2) erased the chip
3) reopened the saved file and filled the file with "FF" up to address 0x17CF.
4) I wrote the entire "modified" file back to the chip

I have attached the virgin modified file to this post for everyone to use freely and without password, but be warned that the speed limiter function may stop working if you use this file. *Edit No it won't. Use this file and it will properly Virgin your ECU, then YOU decide if you want Cruise control and Speed limiter See post 4 *


3) BCM/UCH

BEFORE YOU VIRGIN YOUR BCM/UCH YOU MUST MUST MUST get your immobiliser pin code and ISK or you will be lost, you can use the keys function in the RenOlink software 1.69 and above to read your Pin code and ISK from your current BCM/UCH. When you have the pin and ISK You can virgin the BCM/UCH using RenOlink. After the BCM/UCH has been virginised This is the only small opportunity to alter the VIN number stored in the BCM/UCH, as soon as it becomes "Coded" the Vin number becomes locked, use this opportunity to modify the VIN number to be your actual VIN for your car. Use factory re-work mode in RenOlink with your pin code (copied into the "after sales code" box) to re-add your key cards to your now virgin immo. Your Pin code is critical for this function, your key cards will be useless without their pin code. Now you have a working key card/s just press the start button and the Virgin BCM/UCH (immo) will marry the Virgin ECU and Virgin Steering lock and start the car. After that they will change status from Virgin to Coded.

jomberykaso
30th October, 2019, 03:07 AM
Good Job.......

IceCoffee
30th October, 2019, 06:50 PM
Good Job.......

Thanks, it has been a fun and interesting journey. I only bought the ECU kit because i'm trying to retrofit factory features to the car. This kit has allowed me to add cruise control, and keyless start amongst other things. im currently working on fitting the factory radio that allows bluetooth, it's trickier than it sounds because Renault have altered the wiring, I think to mess up people like me who want to upgrade.


If anyone in future has decided to upgrade from the completely useless stock radio with no bluetooth, to the slightly less useless stock radio with bluetooth, you should know that you will also need to log into your display screen/ instrument panel/ tableau de bord or whatever else it might be called on Megane and Scenic vehicles, and alter the radio type from an R1 to an R2 see attached picture. NOTE this setting does not live change in fact after changing this setting you need to power down the whole display before it will take effect. To do this I disconnected the car battery for a short while.

The radio I fitted in my scenic was from a Megane, so it does not seem to matter.

IceCoffee
3rd November, 2019, 10:44 PM
****IMPORTANT*** You must get your PIN CODE and ISK from the "Keys" screen (Press the read PIN button) before doing any of this

I have been playing with my car again, and got to a shortened version of this, essentially what i'm about to go into is what to do if your Valeo V40 engine ECU failed and you bought a replacement E.g from eBay and you want to fit it to your car.

Tools
RenOlink >1.69
USB PIC programmer like a CH341A

**** Remove your Key Card from the ignition before you start****** you can talk to the BCM at any time, even with the ignition off.

1) Virgin the ECU as mentioned in post 1, feel free to use the virgin file attached to the post. YOU WILL NOT LOSE SPEED LIMITER, I will explain shortly.

2) After installing the newly virginised ECU back into your car, you can use RenOlink as per the picture attached to this post, the general idea is you take your BCM/UCH into factory Rework mode, you do not need to Virginise it for this.


3) you use BCM Pairing to pair the BCM to the ECM (Press the BCM Pairing button)

4) Entering factory rework mode erases all the key cards attached to the vehicle, As indicated in the picture use the section on the right to re-add all your key cards 1 by 1 , by placing them in the reader in turn and using the "standard" pairing option. (At this point putting your keys in the reader will NOT turn the ignition on as none of them currently have permission to wake the car up) Don't forget to change the last drop down box from "Cancel" to "Validate" before hitting the "Exit Rework Mode" button

5) Once all your key cards are re-added remove the last card from the reader and re-insert any of your paired key cards, this should turn the ignition on.


*************** DO NOT PRESS START YET ********************


If you have a cruise control switch you need to enable both cruise control and speed limiter, at this point your Virgin Valeo V40 ECU will learn that it's supposed to have these functions and enable them. The moment you press the start button this learning feature is locked.


Press the start button :)

PS if you don't have cruise control (Which I didn't and is the primary reason behind me doing all of this) but your about to Virgin your Valeo V40 anyway, you might want to consider adding it, it's really easy. You will need an on/off switch from a Scenic or Megane, £10 on eBay. The correct steering wheel £30 ish on eBay. Once the on/off switch is fitted you can activate the features when you Virgin your ECU. You will also need to log into the Dashboard/Screen/Instrument cluster/Tableau de bord thingy and enable RV/LV which is french for cruise control and speed limiter, if you don't do the dashboard thing it will still work but you won't be able to see when it's activated or what speed it's activated at.

S0L0
2nd July, 2020, 11:40 AM
Maybe someone will come in handy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJHYJ01D0v0

Chrisman
29th July, 2020, 06:55 AM
Hi

It's Scenic 3
By mistake i clicked into UCH immo clear, i don't have pin and isk, can i get it from ecm?
Can you help me to get back this codes if are they needed?

I got car which doesn't have working keys i wanted to learn them, but read pin in key learning not worked, and then i clicked immo clear

What can i do to make all works?

I can renew key/cards, i got device to do it if is needed.

Catalizator
4th August, 2020, 10:34 AM
Hi

It's Scenic 3
By mistake i clicked into UCH immo clear, i don't have pin and isk, can i get it from ecm?
Can you help me to get back this codes if are they needed?

I got car which doesn't have working keys i wanted to learn them, but read pin in key learning not worked, and then i clicked immo clear

What can i do to make all works?

I can renew key/cards, i got device to do it if is needed.

read dflash for nec d76f115mg. give me the read I will try to help you

GeoDen
11th March, 2021, 05:40 AM
Hi

It's Scenic 3
By mistake i clicked into UCH immo clear, i don't have pin and isk, can i get it from ecm?
Can you help me to get back this codes if are they needed?

I got car which doesn't have working keys i wanted to learn them, but read pin in key learning not worked, and then i clicked immo clear

What can i do to make all works?

I can renew key/cards, i got device to do it if is needed.
Read ECU eeprom, it contains the keys, isk and pin.

yavgeniu
20th April, 2024, 10:57 AM
When I am trying to put BCM into Rework mode , I am facing "conditions not set or sequency error".
Do you know what could be a reason?

Palosqa
28th April, 2024, 11:38 AM
I have the exact same problem with "conditions not set or sequency error". Has anyone resolved this?

Edit:

In my car the ECU was bad, so i bought donor ECU from scrapped car. I tried to pair it with the car using this thread methods, but ended up on that sequency error.

After all i copied the bin file from the original ecu 95640 chip to the donor ecu chip. You can also just swap the whole chip from old ecu to the new, i just wanted to play safe. And voila! Car starts and works like it's supposed to. So it seems that VIN, IMMO and cruise ctrl/speed limiter data is saved on the 95640 chip.

One other shop tried cloning the ecu before me with no luck. They ended up erasing the other keycard from the UCH. With Renolink i paired it successfully back to the car.

Tof71
15th April, 2025, 06:54 AM
Hello, is the virgin procedure the same for a V42 ECU?